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[Old Rocks]

Australia is investing in energy storage bigtime;

 

[Old Rocks]

And an even bigger battery to be built;

Neoen files plan for 500-MW/1,000 MWh battery project in NSW

French renewable power producer Neoen SA (EPA:NEOEN) has proposed to install a 500 MW/1,000 MWh battery storage facility in the Central Tablelands of New S

renewablesnow.com

 

[Old Rocks]

"Dr Shaw said coal-fired power stations became increasingly unreliable as they aged, so you needed batteries near them to provide stable power security and stabilisation."

Largest battery in Australia to be built on site of ageing coal-fired power plant

Origin Energy unveils plans to build a 700-megawatt battery, which will be the largest in Australia and four times bigger than Tesla's battery in South Australia, in a bid to move the company away from fossil fuel power over the next 10 years.

www.abc.net.au

 

[HenryBHough]

Righteous New Zealand is building a battery big enough to run the whole country night and day even if the sun doesn't shine for two weeks and the wind doesn't blow.

But construction hasn't started yet. Australians are negotiating hard for the rights to clear their continent of everything and everyone to make room for the installation.

 

[westwall]

"Dr Shaw said coal-fired power stations became increasingly unreliable as they aged, so you needed batteries near them to provide stable power security and stabilisation."

Largest battery in Australia to be built on site of ageing coal-fired power plant

Origin Energy unveils plans to build a 700-megawatt battery, which will be the largest in Australia and four times bigger than Tesla's battery in South Australia, in a bid to move the company away from fossil fuel power over the next 10 years.

www.abc.net.au

Dr. shaw is a fucking moron. Coal powered plants are incredibly reliable. "Green energy" production, on the other hand, totally UNRELIABLE.

 

[Old Rocks]

Dr. shaw is a fucking moron. Coal powered plants are incredibly reliable. "Green energy" production, on the other hand, totally UNRELIABLE.

What stupid shit you spew. It was the failure of the grid fired by coal plants that inspired the building of the Hornsdale battery, which has been a resounding success.

 

[evenflow1969]

What stupid shit you spew. It was the failure of the grid fired by coal plants that inspired the building of the Hornsdale battery, which has been a resounding success.

Lol, these idiots don't want new science to succeed. They need to suck the Petro dick for what ever reason. Idk what reason but it's the way they are. They talk about the deep state and wanting to drain the swamp and then cry about anything that does not serve the bank, the big pharma, and the Petro dollar. Hilarious who the hell do they think the deep state is? Hilarious

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It was the failure of the grid fired by coal plants that inspired the building of the Hornsdale battery

The grid failed because of the unreliability of the coal plants? Link?

 

[elektra]

Lol, these idiots don't want new science to succeed. They need to suck the Petro dick for what ever reason. Idk what reason but it's the way they are. They talk about the deep state and wanting to drain the swamp and then cry about anything that does not serve the bank, the big pharma, and the Petro dollar. Hilarious who the hell do they think the deep state is? Hilarious

Big batteries consume massive amounts of fossil fuels I their construction. A new market for fossil fuels. Wall St. to govt officials to giant corporations all get part of the $ 100 trillion green energy pie. And you think these people are in danger of losing money? Hahahah

 

[HenryBHough]

Big batteries consume massive amounts of fossil fuels I their construction. A new market for fossil fuels. Wall St. to govt officials to giant corporations all get part of the $ 100 trillion green energy pie. And you think these people are in danger of losing money? Hahahah

And there's the lithium required to make all those super-cells.

So much that the price will be driven up, the market cornered and those among us who are kept somewhat in check by their daily dose of lithium will find they can't get it anymore.

Then all Hell will break loose right here........

 

[elektra]

And there's the lithium required to make all those super-cells.

So much that the price will be driven up, the market cornered and those among us who are kept somewhat in check by their daily dose of lithium will find they can't get it anymore.

Then all Hell will break loose right here........

the price has been driven up, of lithium, cobalt, steel, aluminum, everything is more expensive as the largest use for everything is in the manufacture of Green Energy, that $100 trillion dollar price tag is mostly the materials needed to be manufactured

 

[evenflow1969]

Big batteries consume massive amounts of fossil fuels I their construction. A new market for fossil fuels. Wall St. to govt officials to giant corporations all get part of the $ 100 trillion green energy pie. And you think these people are in danger of losing money? Hahahah

Ya, how do they consume all these fossil fuels during construction?

 

[westwall]

Ya, how do they consume all these fossil fuels during construction?

Electricity to run the machinery to manufacture everything they use to make them.

 

[elektra]

Ya, how do they consume all these fossil fuels during construction?

the manufacture of polysilcon requires high heat that is created by using electricity and coke, coke which comes from coal.
polysilicon production also uses chemicals that comes from oil
fiberglass requires the high heat of coke, from coal and the chemicals from oil
steel needs coke
copper needs coke
cement or concrete, again coke and electricity

and remember, there is nothing being built that is bigger and requires more land, this is a project that will consume $100 trillion dollars worth of natural resources.

 

[Old Rocks]

And there's the lithium required to make all those super-cells.

So much that the price will be driven up, the market cornered and those among us who are kept somewhat in check by their daily dose of lithium will find they can't get it anymore.

Then all Hell will break loose right here........

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

 

[Old Rocks]

the manufacture of polysilcon requires high heat that is created by using electricity and coke, coke which comes from coal.
polysilicon production also uses chemicals that comes from oil
fiberglass requires the high heat of coke, from coal and the chemicals from oil
steel needs coke
copper needs coke
cement or concrete, again coke and electricity

and remember, there is nothing being built that is bigger and requires more land, this is a project that will consume $100 trillion dollars worth of natural resources.

 

[elektra]

we already addressed this, the only place that uses solar is a roller mill, that is something that rolls steel rails, nobody runs a blast furnace with solar power. And that mill is owned by the Russians.

 

[Old Rocks]

we already addressed this, the only place that uses solar is a roller mill, that is something that rolls steel rails, nobody runs a blast furnace with solar power. And that mill is owned by the Russians.

You are a lying ass. Their melt is ran by that solar plant. Yes, that mill is owned by the Russians, as it the Evraz mill in Portland, Oregon. The mill in Portland is considered a national security asset as it is the only mill on the West Coast that can roll titanium and armor plate. And Oregon Steel Mills was sold to the Russian company during the administration of George W.

 

[Old Rocks]

the manufacture of polysilcon requires high heat that is created by using electricity and coke, coke which comes from coal.
polysilicon production also uses chemicals that comes from oil
fiberglass requires the high heat of coke, from coal and the chemicals from oil
steel needs coke
copper needs coke
cement or concrete, again coke and electricity

and remember, there is nothing being built that is bigger and requires more land, this is a project that will consume $100 trillion dollars worth of natural resources.

You remain such a dumb ass. There are huge areas of parking lots, warehouse roofs, and over agricultural lands, agrivoltaics will become a huge boon for farmers, and VPP's will become a source of saving money for home owners.

 

[elektra]

You remain such a dumb ass. There are huge areas of parking lots, warehouse roofs, and over agricultural lands, agrivoltaics will become a huge boon for farmers, and VPP's will become a source of saving money for home owners.

Dumb, is spending more money and getting much less for your money.

That is what green energy is. Very little electricity for a huge amount of money.

$100 trillion for green energy.

More than we have spent on anything else in the world.

And after we spend the most money, after we set a world record in spending we will have a weak source for electricity with so much infrastructure we will have destroyed thousands of square miles of farmland, prairie, midwest grassland, pristine desert, and plain old forest.

All for a giant experiment that has thus far completely failed.