Zone1 One significant reason why many do not believe in religion, it is just too damn hard

[Hafar1014]

Let's look at your complaints.

Medical costs: What caused medical costs to rise so dramatically? Insurance. Medicare. Pharmaceuticals. Limiting the number of students wanting to enter the medical profession.

Here legally: The question is: Did you come to contribute or come to take? What have you given, what have you taken? Many come here legally and are warmly welcome by the majority. Why not you?

Jesus also said: You now only come to me because you ate the loaves and were filled.

Jesus taught: Blessed are the poor...

Jesus always went straight to the heart of the matter. You tap dance around the edges.

Government regulations cause medical costs to increase especially medicine and insurance mandated by the government. We need tort reform and limits on liability payments.
The poor arent blessed toady they are exploited by democrats who created them.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's look at your complaints.

Medical costs: What caused medical costs to rise so dramatically? Insurance. Medicare. Pharmaceuticals. Limiting the number of students wanting to enter the medical profession.

except every other country has single payer or universal coverage, they spend less than we do, and they have better health metrics.

Here legally: The question is: Did you come to contribute or come to take? What have you given, what have you taken? Many come here legally and are warmly welcome by the majority. Why not you?

Jesus was an immigrant, depending on what gospel you read. (because they contradict each other.)

Jesus taught: Blessed are the poor...

But my Boy Leo deserves to live in a palace, hoarding the artworks of history.

Right, but I was talking about REPUBLICAN Jesus, not actual Jesus (not that either of them ever existed.)

 

[Meriweather]

I figured out at an early age that there are no fairies in the sky.

I didn't even have to figure that out. I knew. You act like you made some big discovery of the obvious.

I doubt more than 10% of what I post is about religion. In fact, I'm going to make a check.

I don't question what percent you post about religion. When you do post about religion, what percent is respectful and positive?

 

[Hafar1014]

except every other country has single payer or universal coverage, they spend less than we do, and they have better health metrics.



Jesus was an immigrant, depending on what gospel you read. (because they contradict each other.)



But my Boy Leo deserves to live in a palace, hoarding the artworks of history.

Right, but I was talking about REPUBLICAN Jesus, not actual Jesus (not that either of them ever existed.)

The NHS in the UK costs more is broke and has long wait times in months even years for treatment. Its false to claim single payer costs less it costs more and delivers poor quality healthcare.

Canada has the same problems with high costs long wait times. People die waiting

 

[markef]

Thats not proof no explanation means nothing exists as an explanation. Absence of evidence is not evidence. Your need to pretend there is proof defines your faith as weak.

Try to understand that the fact of the origin of the universe is proof unbelievers have no valid explanation for the origin of the universe

 

[Hafar1014]

Try to understand that the fact of the origin of the universe is proof unbelievers have no valid explanation for the origin of the universe

Facts dont exist because you say it does.
State the proof step by step how the universe was created as provable facts

State who or what is the creator of creators. With facts

 

[markef]

Facts dont exist because you say it does.
State the proof step by step how the universe was created as provable facts

State who or what is the creator of creators. With facts

Let me try again. Can you present facts that show how the universe originated in some way without God? Can you prove the universe was formed somehow without God?

 

[rightwinger]

Let me try again. Can you present facts that show how the universe originated in some way without God? Can you prove the universe was formed somehow without God?

Can you provide facts that it wasn’t formed by the Wizard of Oz?
That means it was

 

[markef]

Can you provide facts that it wasn’t formed by the Wizard of Oz?
That means it was

Unbelievers make a big deal about there being no proof that God created the universe while ignoring their lack of ability to prove something besides God created the universe.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You seem to be defining hope as a personal desire, an optimistic wish. In the Christian sense, hope is the trusting relationship between God and the individual. Hope grows from affliction, and I am guessing (if you were a former Christian) you dismissed Christianity due to its afflictions of how you perceived it interfering with your own personal beliefs, wants, and desires. When it came to religion, you stepped away--did not endure. To remain a Christian one must struggle, and these struggles and hardships produce character. It is necessary to go through these hardships to enter into Christ's kingdom--the kingdom of heaven--in this life. This brings about the trusting relationship one is building with God. It has nothing to do with "improving chances" and everything to do with building character within oneself into the person we wish to become--through the graces and blessings bestowed upon us by God.

Let's start with your statement that atheists to things because it feels good.

Christians do things with no thought as to whether it feels good. We do it because it needs to be done and the difficulty it may present we shoulder because it produces endurance rather providing a comforting pat to a fragile need to "feel good". Endurance builds character, which lead us to trust in God and His ways of kingdom living and its afflictions that build greater endurance, stronger character, and builds the relationship of hope between God and oneself.

Shame Is the Name of the Christofascists' Game

Don't you feel all superior now? Making people feel bad about themselves is what makes you feel good.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If recognizing that matter did not create itself is a sign of human dependency on error, then what is believing that matter created itself a sign of?

The Fallacy of Preemptive Assumptions (Petitio Principii)

First of all, either matter is eternal and uncreated, or there was a great emptiness before it came into existence. Theism is a childish and slavish dependency forced on people because of those who seek overwhelming power and are incapable of achieving it through gratitude for the good they do.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

But then you accept that a magical creature created matter

And Yet the Bible-bangers Absolutely Reject All Other Magical Creatures

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Unbelievers make a big deal about there being no proof that God created the universe while ignoring their lack of ability to prove something besides God created the universe.

Prove That It Was Created

Just like you can't prove who created God, atheists don't have to prove there wasn't any creation at all. You can't assume that only one being had no beginning.

In other words, you don't need ex nihilo if nothingness never existed.

 

[ding]

Oh, wait, you believe in Republican Jesus, don't you?

I'm not the one trying to make Jesus political. That's you.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Let me try again. Can you present facts that show how the universe originated in some way without God? Can you prove the universe was formed somehow without God?

Natural Forces Created What Is There, Just Like Gravity Is Not the Action of a Supernatural Being

We only need to make the progression from proofs that there were no gods of the wind, etc., to connect God as just another delusion of mythology.

 

[markef]

The Fallacy of Preemptive Assumptions (Petitio Principii)

First of all, either matter is eternal and uncreated, or there was a great emptiness before it came into existence. Theism is a childish and slavish dependency forced on people because of those who seek overwhelming power and are incapable of achieving it through gratitude for the good they do.

You prove nothing of opinions you believe by faith but which lack scientific support or proof.

 

[BreezeWood]

Secularist believe the universe just somehow magically appeared in all its fullness with no satisfactory scientific explanation.

that's the desert dwellers ...

the secular, evolution is primary for their beliefs over time scientifically for all that is.

 

[BreezeWood]

When you do post about religion, what percent is respectful and positive?

how about - honest ...

 

[Meriweather]

Don't you feel all superior now? Making people feel bad about themselves is what makes you feel good.

My post made you feel bad about yourself? Why? The intent of the post was to remind an atheist that to Christians, living one's faith, it is not a fairy tale--it is reality. Not only is it reality, it takes effort and commitment. It means a lot to us and does not deserve to be dismissed as a fairy tale.

 

[buttercup]

My post made you feel bad about yourself? Why? The intent of the post was to remind an atheist that to Christians, living one's faith, it is not a fairy tale--it is reality. Not only is it reality, it takes effort and commitment. It means a lot to us and does not deserve to be dismissed as a fairy tale.

The real fairy tale is believing that all life, all intelligence, everything that is seen and unseen is one big accident, the result of dumb luck.

I could never have enough faith to be an atheist.