Oil jumps $3.70 a barrel due to unrest in Egypt.

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Get ready for a price jump in gas this weekend. Things could get a lot worse in a hurry if the canal gets blocked. Oil at $90 a barrel is not helping the economy any and we may get to that $4 a gallon before we expected too if the whole middle east blows up.
 
Chevron: 5.3 billion dollar 4th quarter earnings. They just keep soaking up US dollars!
 
And more now. All that oil they bought cheaper is now worth more in the ships.

this will of course help the economic recovery on paper and boost the gdp.
 
American crude jumped 4 bucks today.

I already pay the highest in the country anyway, $3.50 a gal. for regular so what the hell...
 
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Get ready for a price jump in gas this weekend. Things could get a lot worse in a hurry if the canal gets blocked. Oil at $90 a barrel is not helping the economy any and we may get to that $4 a gallon before we expected too if the whole middle east blows up.

The price hikes have already started. Stations in my area raised their prices 10 cents a gallon between 8:00 this morning and 4:00 this afternoon.

They're gouging on gas already in their tanks.
 
Here in Indiana it jumped from $2.82 a gallon to $3.19 yesterday a 37 cent increase. I supect it will never get that low again. This is the time of the year, historically that prices are at the lowest. So get ready for that $4 a gallon in time for Memorial Day.
 
How does anyone expect the economy to recover if we do not pay more for the stuff we already buy?


Real growth is pathetically low in America.

Glad I bought several hundred gallons of diesel and gas last week.
 
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Think of it as an investment. Obama will recover those obscene windfalls and reinvest them in windmills and solar cells. Plus, the higher prices are good for the ethanol industry.

You're winning the future here.
 
Gotta love how it works...

Oil exec. finds a gray pubic hair first thing in the morning...gas across the globe jumps 10% in a few hours.
Oil exec. on the same day sees gray hair was actually just a thread from his whitey tighties...gas prices stay high and take 3 months to gradually empty the higher priced gas.
 
I'm not sure that oil execs or their corporations do enough hedging by themselves or collectively in volumes that would appreciably affect prices. Managed funds and asset funds, maybe.
 
American crude jumped 4 bucks today.

I already pay the highest in the country anyway, $3.50 a gal. for regular so what the hell...
I pay 3.48. Two cents behind the highest! :doubt:


Once it hits four bucks a gallon, expect food and other various commodities to skyrocket in cost. Don't expect your boss to give you a raise to compensate the inflation either...
 
Once it hits four bucks a gallon, expect food and other various commodities to skyrocket in cost. Don't expect your boss to give you a raise to compensate the inflation either...

Speak for yourself. The wife gets a bonus based specifically on heating/fuel costs. And lots of things skyrocket during times of volatility....they also skyrocket backwards too. Anyone remember the skyrocketing of crude through July of 2008...and the accompanying skyrocketing down? McDoomsters don't like talking about that one.
 
Get ready for a price jump in gas this weekend. Things could get a lot worse in a hurry if the canal gets blocked. Oil at $90 a barrel is not helping the economy any and we may get to that $4 a gallon before we expected too if the whole middle east blows up.
Isn't it grand? We have a president trying to end our only bulwark against foreign unrest increasing oil prices by shutting down domestic energy production, and then people have the gall to be surprised when unrest in some backwater nation hurts the world energy markets. Way to go P-BO!

Morons.
 
Get ready for a price jump in gas this weekend. Things could get a lot worse in a hurry if the canal gets blocked. Oil at $90 a barrel is not helping the economy any and we may get to that $4 a gallon before we expected too if the whole middle east blows up.
Isn't it grand? We have a president trying to end our only bulwark against foreign unrest increasing oil prices by shutting down domestic energy production, and then people have the gall to be surprised when unrest in some backwater nation hurts the world energy markets. Way to go P-BO!

Morons.

I hear ya re: shutting down domestic production.

But - let's imagine if (given world wide production/demand is the same as today), the U.S. were self-sufficient re: crude oil. Would the markets behave any differently?
I think not.

Sustaining and even increasing domestic oil production is about keeping our petro-dollars here, keeping jobs here, and keeping businesses here while maintaining energy security.
 
Speculators an' greedy oil companies pushin' oil prices up again...
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Don't blame Mideast turmoil for oil woes
March 7, 2011: When you think of life's more pointless exercises -- guessing what Lady Gaga will wear next, trying to read Finnegans Wake -- predicting the price of oil is right up there. I remember oil executives telling me in 2002, when the price was a bit more than $20 a barrel, that it was heading for $16. It peaked at more than $140 in 2008.
Yet despite all the reasons to be suspicious of any forecasts, all it took was for prices to spike in response to the turmoil in Libya -- with the benchmark Brent crude going to nearly $120 a barrel -- for the usual predictions of doom, gloom, and lines at gas stations to be trotted out.

Time for a reality check. Nobody loves short-term volatility in the markets. (Except traders, of course; they love it.) But the idea that revolution in the Middle East is going to translate, through expensive oil, into a sustained global downturn seems way off. First, Libya accounts for less than 2% of global oil production; second, whoever runs that country will quickly figure out that oil is of no value if it's left in the ground; third, Saudi Arabia can always increase supply, and once prices spiked, started talking about how it might do so; fourth, the old assumptions about a rise in the cost of oil leading to a concomitant reduction in output don't hold as they once did -- the run-up in prices to 2008 coincided with a sustained period of global growth.

The Middle East, truth to tell, is not the place to look for the oil story. Prices, having crashed in 2008-09, have been rising for the past two years. Before the first demonstrations in Tunisia ever took place, prices were already up more than 30% from last summer. The global recovery is being led by emerging markets that are less energy-efficient than developed countries, and those markets will remain that way for decades, as millions of Indians, Chinese, and Africans move from villages to cities and as their nations shift from agriculture to energy-intensive manufacturing.

On the demand side, then, you would expect that in the long term -- say, over 20 years -- the price of oil is indeed going to go up. What about supply? Markets being wonderful things, high prices for any commodity stimulate investment in producing it, but at some level -- whether you believe oil production has "peaked" or not -- the global supply of oil is finite. A lot of new oil discoveries are either in places that are technologically challenging and expensive to exploit -- like Brazil's continental shelf -- or where environmental concerns add to the time and cost of bringing a project onstream (such as the Arctic). So oil is indeed going to be more expensive, and one day that will make renewable-energy options like wind and solar truly cost-effective.

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Tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Why?
March 7, 2011 -- Gas prices are alarmingly high. But perhaps the only thing more troubling than their rapid rise is that politicians are now wondering if the United States should tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to try and force prices lower.
White House Chief of Staff William Daley hinted on Sunday's "Meet The Press" show on NBC that the administration was looking at all options to deal with the recent energy price spike, including a limited drawing down of some of the oil in reserve. That comes after several Democratic Senators, including Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia and Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico, called for President Obama to consider releasing oil from the reserve. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner also said last week that the U.S. was prepared to act and tap the SPR if necessary.

But that could be a big mistake for one significant reason. This isn't really a crisis yet. Yes, oil and gas prices have surged due to unrest in Libya but there hasn't been much impact on global supply as of yet. Instead, what's going on reeks of speculation. This isn't like the last time the U.S. tapped the SPR back in 2005. That followed a huge surge in oil and gas prices in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, which did actually wreak havoc on production in the Gulf of Mexico. Despite all the worries about supply disruption, the U.S. still is not facing any shortage. In fact, it's the exact opposite.

"If you really look at the inventories in the U.S., frankly we're oversupplied," said Blake Fernandez, an analyst who covers shares of integrated oil companies and independent refiners for energy research firm Howard Weil in New Orleans. According to the most recent figures from the Department of Energy, the stockpile of oil is 1.4% above levels from last year. Fernandez added that according to his firm's estimates, inventories are 4% above their 5-year average. Tapping the SPR is short-sighted, said David Pursell, managing director with Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co., a Houston-based investment bank focusing on the energy industry.

More http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/07/news/economy/thebuzz/index.htm
 
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Speculators an' greedy oil companies pushin' oil prices up again...
:eek:
Don't blame Mideast turmoil for oil woes
March 7, 2011: When you think of life's more pointless exercises -- guessing what Lady Gaga will wear next, trying to read Finnegans Wake -- predicting the price of oil is right up there. I remember oil executives telling me in 2002, when the price was a bit more than $20 a barrel, that it was heading for $16. It peaked at more than $140 in 2008.
Yet despite all the reasons to be suspicious of any forecasts, all it took was for prices to spike in response to the turmoil in Libya -- with the benchmark Brent crude going to nearly $120 a barrel -- for the usual predictions of doom, gloom, and lines at gas stations to be trotted out.

Time for a reality check. Nobody loves short-term volatility in the markets. (Except traders, of course; they love it.) But the idea that revolution in the Middle East is going to translate, through expensive oil, into a sustained global downturn seems way off. First, Libya accounts for less than 2% of global oil production; second, whoever runs that country will quickly figure out that oil is of no value if it's left in the ground; third, Saudi Arabia can always increase supply, and once prices spiked, started talking about how it might do so; fourth, the old assumptions about a rise in the cost of oil leading to a concomitant reduction in output don't hold as they once did -- the run-up in prices to 2008 coincided with a sustained period of global growth.

The Middle East, truth to tell, is not the place to look for the oil story. Prices, having crashed in 2008-09, have been rising for the past two years. Before the first demonstrations in Tunisia ever took place, prices were already up more than 30% from last summer. The global recovery is being led by emerging markets that are less energy-efficient than developed countries, and those markets will remain that way for decades, as millions of Indians, Chinese, and Africans move from villages to cities and as their nations shift from agriculture to energy-intensive manufacturing.

On the demand side, then, you would expect that in the long term -- say, over 20 years -- the price of oil is indeed going to go up. What about supply? Markets being wonderful things, high prices for any commodity stimulate investment in producing it, but at some level -- whether you believe oil production has "peaked" or not -- the global supply of oil is finite. A lot of new oil discoveries are either in places that are technologically challenging and expensive to exploit -- like Brazil's continental shelf -- or where environmental concerns add to the time and cost of bringing a project onstream (such as the Arctic). So oil is indeed going to be more expensive, and one day that will make renewable-energy options like wind and solar truly cost-effective.

MORE

See also:

Tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Why?
March 7, 2011 -- Gas prices are alarmingly high. But perhaps the only thing more troubling than their rapid rise is that politicians are now wondering if the United States should tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to try and force prices lower.
White House Chief of Staff William Daley hinted on Sunday's "Meet The Press" show on NBC that the administration was looking at all options to deal with the recent energy price spike, including a limited drawing down of some of the oil in reserve. That comes after several Democratic Senators, including Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia and Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico, called for President Obama to consider releasing oil from the reserve. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner also said last week that the U.S. was prepared to act and tap the SPR if necessary.

But that could be a big mistake for one significant reason. This isn't really a crisis yet. Yes, oil and gas prices have surged due to unrest in Libya but there hasn't been much impact on global supply as of yet. Instead, what's going on reeks of speculation. This isn't like the last time the U.S. tapped the SPR back in 2005. That followed a huge surge in oil and gas prices in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, which did actually wreak havoc on production in the Gulf of Mexico. Despite all the worries about supply disruption, the U.S. still is not facing any shortage. In fact, it's the exact opposite.

"If you really look at the inventories in the U.S., frankly we're oversupplied," said Blake Fernandez, an analyst who covers shares of integrated oil companies and independent refiners for energy research firm Howard Weil in New Orleans. According to the most recent figures from the Department of Energy, the stockpile of oil is 1.4% above levels from last year. Fernandez added that according to his firm's estimates, inventories are 4% above their 5-year average. Tapping the SPR is short-sighted, said David Pursell, managing director with Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co., a Houston-based investment bank focusing on the energy industry.

More Tapping Strategic Petroleum Reserve is a bad idea - The Buzz - Mar. 7, 2011

Cool story. Now tell the forum how much oil we actually store in our SPRO.

Here's a hint: It's a drop in the bucket, ... and only exists for short-term government function in the event of a major disruption in supply. It's not even refined product.
 
Cool story. Now tell the forum how much oil we actually store in our SPRO.

Why? Because you don't know how to use google to find the answer for yourself? Call it 3/4's of a billion barrels, give or take.

DOE - Fossil Energy: The Strategic Petroleum Reserve Storage Sites

JiggsCasey said:
Here's a hint: It's a drop in the bucket, ... and only exists for short-term government function in the event of a major disruption in supply. It's not even refined product.

Who cares? Let me put it in the language peak oil cultists understand....u take out duh oils...u put itz in duh refinery....u make duh gasolineys.

With 50% of US transportation fuel use discretionary, you shut that down and overall US use would be, oh, 13-14 million a day. The US, being the 3rd largest oil producer in the world, has recently increased its own production to about 5.5 million/day, so the drawdown on SPR would be about 8 million/day? So the SPR is good for a couple of months of makeup from an embargo or some other supply interruption.

Reasonable for its purpose, I suppose some sort of emergency plan could extend it some amount longer, but it's not meant as a replacement for long term shortfalls. There are other solutions to that of course.

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