Ohio voters made a mistake

[g5000]

The majority of Americans don't want ANY abortions banned.

Actually, two-thirds of Americans want abortion banned after the first trimester. I've been pointing this out for years.

This means a lot of people who identify as "pro-choice" are actually in disagreement with Roe v. Wade. They just don't know it.

This is why I have also been saying for a very long time that the pro-life movement is really missing the boat on this opportunity.

Rather than be reasonable after Roe was repealed, the New Right doubled down on their cruelty.

HUGE mistake.

 

[Votto]

Actually, two-thirds of Americans want abortion banned after the first trimester. I've been pointing this out for years.

This means a lot of people who identify as "pro-choice" are actually in disagreement with Roe v. Wade. They just don't know it.

This is why I have also been saying for a very long time that the pro-life movement is really missing the boat on this opportunity.

Rather than be reasonable after Roe was repealed, the New Right doubled down on their cruelty.

HUGE mistake.

Ban it by putting it to a vote and it passes.

But again, that is not what the DNC wants because they despise democracy.

But don't look to the GOP for help either. They just sit around playing with themselves all day trying to figure out how they will pass DNC spending without looking like the patsy fools they are.

 

[d0gbreath]

Those three products have been legal since the founding of our country. Obviously they should remain legal.

Pot, cocaine, and opium were legal when our country was founded.

 

[g5000]

Ban it by putting it to a vote and it passes.

Yet that is not what the GOP did. They shot for a ban after six weeks, and some even attempted no exceptions for rape or incest, and pissed EVERYONE off.

Oh, and let's not forget the bounties!
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Like I said, they doubled down on their cruelty and lost it all.

They blew it.

 

[g5000]

Ohio voters made a mistake​

Well, they were stoned at the time...

 

[evenflow1969]

Lol, can't have the peasants having any say in anything. The ruling class must make all the rules.

 

[Dragonlady]

Actually, two-thirds of Americans want abortion banned after the first trimester. I've been pointing this out for years.

This means a lot of people who identify as "pro-choice" are actually in disagreement with Roe v. Wade. They just don't know it.

This is why I have also been saying for a very long time that the pro-life movement is really missing the boat on this opportunity.

Rather than be reasonable after Roe was repealed, the New Right doubled down on their cruelty.

HUGE mistake.

I know you've been saying it for years, but it's simply NOT true. 51% are open to some restrictions, but that number is steadily declining as women realize that the NO restrictions should apply because the 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions are the ones which are medically necessary.

200,000 women per year have an abortion in the second trimester. And this is where the death rate from the complications of pregnancy has doubled in states which banned abortion after 6 weeks. These women cannot get care until their own life is in endangered by the infection from partial miscarriage she has suffered, or they are in danger of bleeding to death.

I know your anti-abortion stance and it is WRONG. DEAD WRONG. If you believe abortion is wrong, don't have one. Problem solved.

 

[Dragonlady]

Your own NPR says you are a liar

Again, most Americans want abortion in some cases, but also want it restricted in others.

So you really didn't listen to it - you just read the headline. Dumb. Really fucking dumb.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Looks like the legislature will have to correct the mistake made by the voters. It appears common sense will prevail. Of course we should say no to drugs.

---“It would be a mistake,” Gov. Mike DeWine said.---

Ohio Republicans split on marijuana legalization and could repeal proposal the day after it passes • Ohio Capital Journal

Ohio Republicans are divided on the effort to legalize marijuana for recreational use in the state. Some lawmakers are proposing to overturn legalized recreational weed if voters pass it in November. Others say that would be a mistake.

ohiocapitaljournal.com

Wow, at least you are not even trying to hide it any longer.

 

[AMart]

There are "state liquor stores"?

You're right about alcohol being the most lethal drug. But the state isn't selling it by and large.

All booze stores in Ohio are similar to contract agents or something like that. It's really dumb Ohio owns the booze, then they contract with a retailer either mom and pop or a Kroger, and it's property of the state until it's sold. For 50 years all booze, over 42 proof, was sold in Ohio owned stores. Cross the river from Cincy to Kentucky there's like 20 booze stores. There's booze stores in every strip in Indy. It's not that profitable in Ohio thus the lack of stores.

 

[g5000]

I know you've been saying it for years, but it's simply NOT true.

It's been consistently true for decades, D-lady.

AP-NORC poll: Most say restrict abortion after 1st trimester

A new poll shows a solid majority of Americans believe most abortions should be legal in the first three months of a woman’s pregnancy, but most say the procedure should usually be illegal in the second and third trimesters.

apnews.com

However, 65% said abortion should usually be illegal in the second trimester, and 80% said that about the third trimester.

Where Do Americans Stand on Abortion?

Most Americans favor abortion being legal to some degree, but there is wide disagreement about the extent.

news.gallup.com

When asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy, about two-thirds of Americans say it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose abortion being legal in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.


So like I keep saying, this means even many pro-choicers oppose Roe v. Wade and probably don't even know it.

 

[g5000]

If you believe abortion is wrong, don't have one. Problem solved.

If you believe gassing Jews is wrong, don't gas one. Problem solved.

 

[Anathema]

Further proof of Republicans’ contempt for democracy and the will of the people

I can’t speak for Republicans but I’ve been very forward in my disdain for Democracy, the Republic and the opinions of the voters/general public for a very long time.

 

[Dragonlady]

If you believe gassing Jews is wrong, don't gas one. Problem solved.

Not the same problem at all. An abortion terminates a pregnancy. Life has not begun. You have to be breathing on your own to be alive.

A pregnant woman can't claim the unborn child as a "dependent", nor can she claim any government program or benefit in the child's name until he or she is born.

If the only argument you have is that a zygote or a fetus has rights, you're not on thin ice, you're drowning in lies and misinformation.

 

[g5000]

Not the same problem at all. An abortion terminates a pregnancy. Life has not begun. You have to be breathing on your own to be alive.

Oh, okay. Let me go unplug everyone on life support.

 

[jknowgood]

Americans do want regulated, sensible abortion law.

Most want a sensible length ban. A great majority want exceptions for rape, incest, fetus viability, and life/health of the mother.

No one will perform abortion at birth on a viable fetus. If anyone dead, someone in the community would shoot the person dead.

Oh bullshit, your party wants abortion till birth. Your party even lit the trade center pink after passing late birth abortion.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

About 65% are open to regulated abortion with time limits and many exceptions, and jknowg ood is a filthy liar who believes women should bear pregnancy until her death,

 

[lennypartiv]

The thread premise is indeed further proof of Republicans’ contempt for democracy and the will of the people.

The people voting made a mistake and now the legislature needs to fix it.

 

[lennypartiv]

Wow, at least you are not even trying to hide it any longer.

No reason to hide anything.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No reason to hide anything.

Indeed, you should be proud of being a big government loving authoritarian