CDZ Ohio Town's Board of Education Wouldn't Back Up Pro-Heterosexuality Speech

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It's backed up in the post you quoted .

WHAT??!! You just jabbering? Seriously?

 

[protectionist]

Well, now we know that you have NO CLUE about what the abortion issue is about. You don't believe that liberals support Choice.

Let me guess....another male who relishes con-trolling women's bodies.

Well, now we know that you have NO CLUE about what the abortion issue is about. You believe that liberals support Choice.

Liberals DON'T support choice for the fetus. Your choice is murder.

And what is the % of fetuses choosing life over abortion ? Some people think that cant be assessed. WRONG. It can easily be assessed. In interviews of adults aged 30 - 50 who were asked if they supported life or abortion for themselves (which were contemplated by their parents), 100% answered in support of life.

And it is not I, who wish to control the fate of fetuses. It is the fetuses who wish to do that, and the only ones who really have that right.

Now back to the topic of homosexual and trans lunacy.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Already answered in post # 130. Ho hum. Yawn****

Common!! 130 just refers to 107 which is also worthless. You have yet to back up your claim that homosexuality was dropped as a disorder because of a decision that was made by a committee withing the APA comprised entirely of gay people. You should be embarrassed but instead think that you can keep getting away with trying to gaslight us. No working

 

[protectionist]

WHAT??!! You just jabbering? Seriously?

How many times do I have to post it again and again ? Sheeesh!
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)

 

[protectionist]

Common!! 130 just refers to 107 which is also worthless. You have yet to back up your claim that homosexuality was dropped as a disorder because of a decision that was made by a committee withing the APA comprised entirely of gay people. You should be embarrassed but instead think that you can keep getting away with trying to gaslight us. No working

Post # 144

And there is quite a bit that I have posted on this in depth, some years ago. I can do a search back for those posts, and repost the stuff, if you insist, but I can tell you now, you're not going to like what you see..

 

[toobfreak]

This is how far we have sunk, folks. it would have been better if they would have added an affirmation, instead of a cowardly disclaimer.

It is all about fear of the angry woke leftist mobs who now terrorize the country with the Biddum Administration's full blessings.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Post # 144

And there is quite a bit that I have posted on this in depth, some years ago. I can do a search back for those posts, and repost the stuff, if you insist, but I can tell you now, you're not going to like what you see..

More bovine excrement! I seriously doubt that you did any research. You're just trying to squirm out of a claim you made that you know is false. Shame!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Post # 144

And there is quite a bit that I have posted on this in depth, some years ago. I can do a search back for those posts, and repost the stuff, if you insist, but I can tell you now, you're not going to like what you see..

Try me

 

[Dogmaphobe]

[/QUOTE]

He, like most liberals, is in need of a massive dose of DEPROGRAMMING.

I think the while idea is to create another protected class.

If you can establish that it is an act of BIGOTRY to oppose the practice of sissy traing boys from the age of two, you are half way to establishing pederasts as a protected class.

 

[protectionist]

More bovine excrement! I seriously doubt that you did any research. You're just trying to squirm out of a claim you made that you know is false. Shame!

Oh, you're going to regret that, in a few minutes from now. LOL.

 

[protectionist]

Try me

In a few minutes - but you're going to have a lot of reading to do.

But let's not mislead ourselves. Even though I'm about to post a large amount of posting relating to the APA 1973 controversial (frankly rigged) vote on Homosexuality as a disorder, and their 1974 statement, as well as another statement by them in their 1987 DSM, and more stuff from the WHO's ICD-10 in 1992........

one thing transcends all of these high horse proclamations, and that is simply that homosexuality is in CONTRADICTION WITH NATURE. It is in contradiction of nature's body parts DESIGN. THAT is the bottom line.

 

[metalwolf]

it does not always, some people bigotry is so strong they will even turn on a loved one

Yup, I have read about LGBT homeless kids who were thrown out by their family.

The Forsaken: Gay Teens Shunned by Their Religious Families

While life gets better for millions of gays, the number of homeless LGBT teens - many cast out by their religious families - quietly keeps growing.

www.rollingstone.com

I knew a homeless transgender person near a area near where i walked, and one day she wasn't there.

I hope,if anything bad happened to her, that she is in a better place now.

 

[protectionist]

First published in 1968, DSM-II (the second edition of the American classiifcation of mental disorders) listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In this, the DSM followed in a long tradition in medicine and psychiatry, which in the 19th century appropriated homosexuality from the Church and, in an élan of enlightenment, promoted it from sin to mental disorder.

In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) asked all members attending its convention to vote on whether they believed homosexuality to be a mental disorder. 5,854 psychiatrists voted to remove homosexuality from the DSM, and 3,810 to retain it.

But there's much more to it than just that.

Instead of simply doing things democratically and properly, the APA pretty much caved in to threats and intimidation from radical homosexual activists.

Here’s what actually happened, according to the August 23, 1971 edition of Newsweek (cited here),

… it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago – in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far – a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes. ‘We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally disordered,’ shouted the group’s leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000 shocked psychiatrists looked on in disbelief. ‘For us, as homosexuals, your profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as human beings, not as patients to be cured!’

And that was just the beginning according to author Ryan Sorba. Citing pages 130-131 of The Gay Crusaders, a history of the homosexual movement authored by homosexual activists Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, Sorba writes,

On June 7, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.”

Following these threats the APA’s Board of Trustees decided to remove homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders.

It is interesting that the three great pioneers of psychiatry – Freud, Jung and Adler – all saw homosexuality as disordered. And, while it is true that by the 1970s many psychiatrists had a different opinion, it was not science that ultimately settled the question; it was threats and intimidation.

Second, it was impossible that any truly impartial review of the literature could have missed the elevated levels of alcoholism, drug dependency, depression and suicide among homosexuals. It was simply preposterous for psychiatrists to claim that these either did not exist, or that they did exist but were not symptomatic of some kind of deeper disorder.

Third, the reference completely minimizes the intensity of the multi-year attack against psychiatry that was being waged by homosexual activists. Read the history of these attacks, beginning here (link below), and running for a total of 5 pages: Psychiatrists were being branded as “war criminals” and “the enemy incarnate” – and that was just the polite talk. These were a people under siege and they all knew it.

Fourth, the vote, when it finally did come, was 5,854 to 3,810 in favor of removing homosexuality from the list of disorders. What was not mentioned was that 17,905 members of the APA were eligible to vote and that 8,241 of them chose not to cast a ballot. In other words, the yeas represented less than a third (32.7%) of the APA membership. Obviously, the 8,241 (almost half the entire membership abstaining under pressure, were no votes, which is why they abstained).

Fifth, as the above reference mentions, the vote was partially controlled by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGTLF). The NGTLF was able to obtain APA member addresses and, without identifying itself as an organization, send out letters to all members urging them to vote to remove homosexuality from the list of disorders. Bruce Voeller, the head of the NGTLF admits, “Our costly letter has perhaps made the difference.”

https://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/TheBornGayHoax.pdf#page=20

Eight psychiatrists are called for a new referendum by the American Psychiatric Association on homosexuality, to invalidate an earlier vote they contend was improperly influenced by a letter signed by top association leaders but conceived and paid for by the National Task Force.

The letter urged upholding a decision of the board of trustees to stop listing “homosexuality per se” as a mental illness. The eventual vote last month was 5,854 in favor to 3,810, out of 17,910 eligible voters. The trustees’ action and the vote upholding it have been hailed by homosexual groups as significant recognition of an Individual's right to select his sexual life‐style.
‘Knowledge Sacrificed’
The leader of the group of eight psychiatrists, Dr. Charles W, Socarides, clinical associate professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine, contended in an interview last week that deleting homosexuality from mental illness listings “sacrificed our scientific knowledge.” He said it was like the Soviet distortion of genetics for political purposes during the Stalin era.
The Gay Task Force, formed last October to “work for libration of gay people and change in public attitudes,” acknowledges that it raised $3,000 to print and mail the letter signed by the three candidates for president of the association and two incumbent vice presidents.

Ronald Gold, public relations director for the Gay Task Force, also confirmed that the task force had suggested contributions be sent through St. Mary's Episcopal Church in Harlem, a task force sponsor, as a way to get tax deductibility.
He declared that similar letters for various causes went out daily “from famous people” without the actual drafters being identified.
Dr. Socarides argued that the leaders’ letter “should have said it was sponsored by the Gay Task Force—otherwise it was a totally deceptive and misleading document.” He held it probably had influenced some members in “a dishonest vote which does not fairly re fleet the true opinions of majority of psychiatrists.”
In Los Angeles, Dr. Judd Marmor, who has since won the election and is presidentelect, said he and the four other signers had agreed on the letter as upholding the trustees and also representing their views.
Dr. Marmor, who is chairman of the department of psychiatry at the University of Southern California, said “we think it would have been more correct” for the Gay Task Force to identify itself as the mailer. The task force, he said “paid for it—we were in no position to do so.”

In an exchange of letters on the controversy to be published in a June issue of the association's newsletter, Dr. Marmor said, “We agree, however, that some guidelines ought to be established to prevent such misunderstanding in the future.” He disclosed that a special group had been set up to report on referendum guidelines.​

The dissidents originally asked the association on March 21 for an investigation of the Gay Task Force role, and on May 13 formally petitioned to have the entire voting membership notified about “this impropriety” and be given new referendum “as soon as possible.”

The APA then compromised, removing homosexuality from the DSM but replacing it, in effect, with "sexual orientation disturbance" for people "in conflict with" their sexual orientation. Not until 1987 did homosexuality completely fall out of the DSM.

Meanwhile, the World Health Organization (WHO) only removed homosexuality from its ICD classification with the publication of ICD-10 in 1992, although ICD-10 still carries the construct of "ego-dystonic sexual orientation". In this condition, the person is not in doubt about his or her sexual preference, but "wishes it were different because of associated psychological and behavioural disorders".

When Homosexuality Stopped Being a Mental Disorder

Not until 1987 did homosexuality completely fall out of the DSM.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[protectionist]

Yup, the same bible also says people can't eat fat Lev 3:17, can't eat pork Lev 11:7-8, can't eat shrimp or anything lacking fins or scales Deuteronomy 14:9-10, planting two different crops side by side Lev 19:19, wearing clothes made of mixed fabrics lev 19:19, cutting the hair on the sides of your head or clipping the edges of your beard Lev 19:27, tattoos Lev 19:28, can't work on the sabbath Exodus 35:2

There is also slavery in the bible.{an evil that no one approves of today}

The Bible and slavery - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also says people can beat slaves

Exodus 21:20–21 says, “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.


Also says a disobedient son can be killed.

Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 21:18-21 - New International Version

A Rebellious Son - If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son...

www.biblegateway.com

This thread is about homosexuality and Jim McGuire advising kids to be heterosexual, as they were created. Has nothing to do with the Bible.

 

[metalwolf]

First published in 1968, DSM-II (the second edition of the American classiifcation of mental disorders) listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In this, the DSM followed in a long tradition in medicine and psychiatry, which in the 19th century appropriated homosexuality from the Church and, in an élan of enlightenment, promoted it from sin to mental disorder.

In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) asked all members attending its convention to vote on whether they believed homosexuality to be a mental disorder. 5,854 psychiatrists voted to remove homosexuality from the DSM, and 3,810 to retain it.

But there's much more to it than just that.

Instead of simply doing things democratically and properly, the APA pretty much caved in to threats and intimidation from radical homosexual activists.

Here’s what actually happened, according to the August 23, 1971 edition of Newsweek (cited here),


And that was just the beginning according to author Ryan Sorba. Citing pages 130-131 of The Gay Crusaders, a history of the homosexual movement authored by homosexual activists Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, Sorba writes,


Following these threats the APA’s Board of Trustees decided to remove homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders.

It is interesting that the three great pioneers of psychiatry – Freud, Jung and Adler – all saw homosexuality as disordered. And, while it is true that by the 1970s many psychiatrists had a different opinion, it was not science that ultimately settled the question; it was threats and intimidation.

Second, it was impossible that any truly impartial review of the literature could have missed the elevated levels of alcoholism, drug dependency, depression and suicide among homosexuals. It was simply preposterous for psychiatrists to claim that these either did not exist, or that they did exist but were not symptomatic of some kind of deeper disorder.

Third, the reference completely minimizes the intensity of the multi-year attack against psychiatry that was being waged by homosexual activists. Read the history of these attacks, beginning here (link below), and running for a total of 5 pages: Psychiatrists were being branded as “war criminals” and “the enemy incarnate” – and that was just the polite talk. These were a people under siege and they all knew it.

Fourth, the vote, when it finally did come, was 5,854 to 3,810 in favor of removing homosexuality from the list of disorders. What was not mentioned was that 17,905 members of the APA were eligible to vote and that 8,241 of them chose not to cast a ballot. In other words, the yeas represented less than a third (32.7%) of the APA membership. Obviously, the 8,241 (almost half the entire membership abstaining under pressure, were no votes, which is why they abstained).

Fifth, as the above reference mentions, the vote was partially controlled by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGTLF). The NGTLF was able to obtain APA member addresses and, without identifying itself as an organization, send out letters to all members urging them to vote to remove homosexuality from the list of disorders. Bruce Voeller, the head of the NGTLF admits, “Our costly letter has perhaps made the difference.”

https://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/TheBornGayHoax.pdf#page=20

Eight psychiatrists are called for a new referendum by the American Psychiatric Association on homosexuality, to invalidate an earlier vote they contend was improperly influenced by a letter signed by top association leaders but conceived and paid for by the National Task Force.

The letter urged upholding a decision of the board of trustees to stop listing “homosexuality per se” as a mental illness. The eventual vote last month was 5,854 in favor to 3,810, out of 17,910 eligible voters. The trustees’ action and the vote upholding it have been hailed by homosexual groups as significant recognition of an Individual's right to select his sexual life‐style.
‘Knowledge Sacrificed’
The leader of the group of eight psychiatrists, Dr. Charles W, Socarides, clinical associate professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine, contended in an interview last week that deleting homosexuality from mental illness listings “sacrificed our scientific knowledge.” He said it was like the Soviet distortion of genetics for political purposes during the Stalin era.
The Gay Task Force, formed last October to “work for libration of gay people and change in public attitudes,” acknowledges that it raised $3,000 to print and mail the letter signed by the three candidates for president of the association and two incumbent vice presidents.

Ronald Gold, public relations director for the Gay Task Force, also confirmed that the task force had suggested contributions be sent through St. Mary's Episcopal Church in Harlem, a task force sponsor, as a way to get tax deductibility.
He declared that similar letters for various causes went out daily “from famous people” without the actual drafters being identified.
Dr. Socarides argued that the leaders’ letter “should have said it was sponsored by the Gay Task Force—otherwise it was a totally deceptive and misleading document.” He held it probably had influenced some members in “a dishonest vote which does not fairly re fleet the true opinions of majority of psychiatrists.”
In Los Angeles, Dr. Judd Marmor, who has since won the election and is presidentelect, said he and the four other signers had agreed on the letter as upholding the trustees and also representing their views.
Dr. Marmor, who is chairman of the department of psychiatry at the University of Southern California, said “we think it would have been more correct” for the Gay Task Force to identify itself as the mailer. The task force, he said “paid for it—we were in no position to do so.”

​

In an exchange of letters on the controversy to be published in a June issue of the association's newsletter, Dr. Marmor said, “We agree, however, that some guidelines ought to be established to prevent such misunderstanding in the future.” He disclosed that a special group had been set up to report on referendum guidelines.​

The dissidents originally asked the association on March 21 for an investigation of the Gay Task Force role, and on May 13 formally petitioned to have the entire voting membership notified about “this impropriety” and be given new referendum “as soon as possible.”

The APA then compromised, removing homosexuality from the DSM but replacing it, in effect, with "sexual orientation disturbance" for people "in conflict with" their sexual orientation. Not until 1987 did homosexuality completely fall out of the DSM.

Meanwhile, the World Health Organization (WHO) only removed homosexuality from its ICD classification with the publication of ICD-10 in 1992, although ICD-10 still carries the construct of "ego-dystonic sexual orientation". In this condition, the person is not in doubt about his or her sexual preference, but "wishes it were different because of associated psychological and behavioural disorders".

When Homosexuality Stopped Being a Mental Disorder

Not until 1987 did homosexuality completely fall out of the DSM.

www.psychologytoday.com

Dude, most of those links are from Massresistance, a known hate group.

18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda

A small coterie of groups now comprise the hard core of the anti-gay movement

www.splcenter.org

 

[protectionist]

Yup, I have read about LGBT homeless kids who were thrown out by their family.

The Forsaken: Gay Teens Shunned by Their Religious Families

While life gets better for millions of gays, the number of homeless LGBT teens - many cast out by their religious families - quietly keeps growing.

www.rollingstone.com

I knew a homeless transgender person near a area near where i walked, and one day she wasn't there.

I hope,if anything bad happened to her, that she is in a better place now.

I hope so too, but at the same time, I can sympathize with the families, not wanting a homosexual or tran loon in their home. God, what an awful thought. Gives you the CREEPS just to think about it.

 

[protectionist]

Dude, most of those links are from Massresistance, a known hate group.

18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda

A small coterie of groups now comprise the hard core of the anti-gay movement

www.splcenter.org

1. HA HA. A known hate group, is it now ? And known as that, by whom ? Don't you dare say the Southern Poverty Laughingstock Association, or I will give you a whole lot of information about them, you may have never heard.

2. Having been in this forum for 8 years, having liberals resort to source bashing is no surprise. Now you have the privilege of referring to the CONTENT from that source, and let's see what you can say about THAT.

 

[protectionist]

Dude, most of those links are from Massresistance, a known hate group.

18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda

A small coterie of groups now comprise the hard core of the anti-gay movement

www.splcenter.org

The easiest way to spot an invalid report (typical of MSM) is to see its use of the Southern Poverty Law Center. This laughingstock organization purports to list what it calls “hate groups”. Problem is, some things in life SHOULD be hated. Hate, in and of itself, is not necessarily a bad thing (as SPLC commonly indicates).

One can get the feeling that if this were 1943, the SPLC would crab about Americans hating Hitler and his Nazis, and Hirohito, and his Japanese imperialist invaders, all while they were killing our soldiers.

Now we have another world war. It is the international jihad (ISIS, al Qaeda, Taliban, Al Shabbab, Boko Harem, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc) vs the sane world. But just say something that goes in the direction of protecting America from these genocidists, or their subversive counterpart, the Muslim Brotherhood, and SPLC will be ragging at you as a hate group or individual.

A little background on the SPLC can clear things up about this phony organization, which has nothing to do with either “poverty” or “law”, and is primarily about stuffing their pockets with donations from wary liberals, whom they scare to death with exaggeration reports.

Journalists who have no ideological or financial interest in skewing the outcome one way or the other have conducted examinations of the SPLC’s nearly 40-year history. While the political leanings of the publications and journalists who undertook several of the investigations would lead one to expect a favorable evaluation of the SPLC, quite the opposite was the case.

Articles published in The Nation, Harper’s, and even the SPLC’s hometown newspaper, the Montgomery Advertiser all make the same assertion: the SPLC exaggerates, and manipulates incidents of “hate” for the sole purpose of raising vast sums of money.

The Nation: In response to a letter published in the February 26, 2001 edition of the magazine from Richard Cohen (the SPLC’s president and CEO) defending the SPLC’s activities, journalist JoAnn Wypijewski questioned what the organization does with its vast war chest: The center doesn’t devote all of its resources to any kind of fight. In 1999 it spent $2.4 million on litigation and $5.7 million on fundraising, meanwhile taking in more than $44 million—$27 million from fundraising, the rest from investments.

A few years ago the American Institute of Philanthropy gave the SPLC an F for ‘excessive’ reserves. On the subject of ‘hate groups,’ though, Cohen is almost comically disingenuous. No one has been more assiduous in inflating the profile of such groups than the center’s millionaire huckster Morris Dees, who in 1999 began a begging letter, ‘Dear Friend, The danger presented by the Klan is greater now than at any time in the past ten years.’ Hate sells; poor people don’t, which is why readers who go to the center’s web site will find only a handful of cases on such unlucrative causes as fair housing, worker safety or healthcare, many of those from the 1970s and ‘80s.

Why the organization continues to keep ‘Poverty’ (or even ‘Law’) in its name can be ascribed only to nostalgia or a cynical understanding of the marketing possibilities in class guilt. The Nation’s opinion of the SPLC has only diminished with the passage of time. Syndicated columnist Alexander Cockburn wrote a scathing article entitled “King of the Hate Business,” for the April 29, 2009 edition of the magazine. In his piece, Cockburn lambasted the SPLC and its founder, Morris Dees. Noting the election of Barack Obama and solid Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress, Cockburn observed, “It’s also horrible news for people who raise money and make money selling the notion that there’s a right resurgence out there in the hinterland with legions of haters ready to march down Main Street draped in Klan robes, a copy of Mein Kampf tucked under one arm and a Bible under the other.” Cockburn, like just about everyone else who has examined the SPLC’s record, noted the organization’s shameful record of hyping hate for profit.

What is the archsalesman of hatemongering, Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center, going to do now? Ever since 1971, U.S. Postal Service mailbags have bulged with his fundraising letters, scaring dollars out of the pockets of trembling liberals aghast at his lurid depictions of a hate-sodden America in dire need of legal confrontation by the SPLC.

Harper’s: In the November 2000 edition, Washington editor Ken Silverstein published an exposé of the SPLC and its tactics and operational activities. Entitled “The Church of Morris Dees,” Silverstein concluded that the SPLC “spends most of its time—and money—on a relentless fundraising campaign, peddling memberships in the church of tolerance with all the zeal of a circuit rider passing the collection plate."

In a follow-up in March 2007, Silverstein noted that not much had changed since his 2000 article. Back in 2000, I wrote a story in Harper’s about the Southern Poverty Law Center of Montgomery, Alabama, whose stated mission is to combat disgusting yet mostly impotent groups like the Nazis and the KKK. What it does best, though, is to raise obscene amounts of money by hyping fears about the power of those groups; hence the SPLC has become the nation’s richest “civil rights” organization.

The Montgomery Advertiser, the city’s leading newspaper, began scrutinizing the SPLC, headquartered in Montgomery, Alabama, as early as 1994. In 1995, the Pulitzer Board nominated the Advertiser’s eight-part series of investigative reports as a finalist for its distinguished Pulitzer Prize. In a May 1999 seminar at Harvard University’s Nieman Center, then managing editor Jim Tharpe described the SPLC’s efforts to intimidate his reporters during their investigation: “Our series was published in 1995 after three years of very brutal research under the threat of lawsuit the entire time.” Like Harper’s and The Nation, the Advertiser’s investigation concluded that the SPLC was little more than a hugely successful fundraising operation that delivered little of what it promised to its donors. Tharpe stated: "The Center was building up a huge surplus. It was 50-something million at that time; it’s now approaching 100 million, but they’ve never spent more than 31 percent of the money they were bringing in on programs, and sometimes they spent as little as 18 percent. Most nonprofits spend about 75 percent on programs."

A sampling of their donors showed that they had no idea of the Center’s wealth. The charity watchdog groups, the few that are in existence, had consistently criticized the Center, even though nobody had reported that. By looking at 990s, what few financial records we did have available, we were able to corroborate much of that information, many of the allegations they had made, the fact that the Center didn’t spend very much of its money that it took in on programs, the fact that some of the top people at the Center were paid very high salaries, the fact that there weren’t minorities in management positions at the Center. But the Advertiser’s investigative reporters found something even more remarkable for an organization that prides itself on “exposing” racism in others.

The newspaper was able to corroborate institutional racism within the SPLC. Addressing Harvard’s Nieman Center, Tharpe stated: "There was a problem with black employees at what was the nation’s richest civil rights organization; there were no blacks in the top management positions. Twelve out of the 13 black current and former employees we contacted cited racism at the Center, which was a shocker to me. As of 1995, the Center had hired only two black attorneys in its entire history."

None of these 3 publications had any obvious political or economic interest in discrediting the SPLC. In fact, Tharpe, whose newspaper was literally next door to the SPLC’s headquarters, noted, “They [SPLC officials] were friends with people at the paper; we hung out with them.” Nevertheless, all three, after closely examining the SPLC, independently arrived at the conclusion that the organization is not a credible or objective source of information.

Stop Referring To “Southern Poverty Law Center”

The easiest way to spot an invalid report (typical of MSM) is to see its use of the Southern Poverty Law Center. This laughingstock organization purports to list what it calls “hate groups”. Problem is, some things in life SHOULD be hated. Hate, in and of itself, is not necessarily a bad...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Orangecat]

Chess involves retreating

Maybe for you. For me it involves thinking ahead and dishing out beatings to morons who retreat.

 

[Orangecat]

How is that a gotcha? You presented that heterosex is the only acceptable because it propagates the species......what say you about heterosex that does NOT propagate the species? Perversion and wrong or not?

I said nothing about “only acceptable”, fool. Learn to read. Not all heterosexual sex leads to pregnancy, but no gay sex leads to pregnancy. That doesn’t mean people cannot have sex for purely pleasurable reasons. If you had any reading comprehension or memory, this started out when some dipstick said heterosexual sex was a result of grooming. It’s a result of the natural drive for species continuance. Continue to argue the fool’s position if you desiire, though. It’s a good look for liberalism.