Oh boo hoo. Olsteen isn't getting donations so he got 4.4mil loan

[Taz]

look at falwell jr...millions donated to trump causes from liberty university to pay back covering up his sex scandal

trump and his ilk have damn near killed christianity

Come now, I'm sure you would have something else to complain about Christianity.

Christianity is for pretenders and role players.

It would have been shocking if you saw it any other way, Taz.

Of course your shortsightedness only harms you and your family. It doesn't affect me at all.

So god is going to punish me in some way because I never saw any proof?

No. You are punishing yourself so to speak. But not because you never saw any proof. Because you can't see the forest for the trees and missed out on the wisdom.

Not to worry though... everything works for good. You just won't likely be able to see it.

My brain just sees no real proof. I can't really help that. Wouldn't god want to help me out on this?

Wow, you just admitted to being powerless. Good job.

As for what God wants, I suspect He wants you to experience existence and choose for yourself. It isn't virtuous if you are forced to be virtuous.

I'm powerless to see any real proof of god. I guess god doesn't care about that. That's all I can conclude.

 

[hobelim]

I'm powerless to see any real proof of god. I guess god doesn't care about that. That's all I can conclude.

If you took seventy seven pot seeds and planted them all in the earth and with a little moisture and the light and heat of the sun only one of them came to life and started growing above the dirt, which of those seeds would you care about?

The one that is alive, right? Would you give a shit or cry about the ones that didn't germinate? No?

If you want proof of God, grow. Get out of your grave and walk like a man. God is God of the living.

 

[Taz]

I'm powerless to see any real proof of god. I guess god doesn't care about that. That's all I can conclude.

If you took seventy seven pot seeds and planted them all in the earth and with a little moisture and the light and heat of the sun only one of them came to life and started growing above the dirt, which of those seeds would you care about?

The one that is alive, right? Would you give a shit or cry about the ones that didn't germinate? No?

If you want proof of God, grow. Get out of your grave and walk like a man. God is God of the living.

No, I would worry why none of the others came up. 1 out of 77, that means the planter person is doing something wrong. Better luck next time, hob.

 

[hobelim]

I'm powerless to see any real proof of god. I guess god doesn't care about that. That's all I can conclude.

If you took seventy seven pot seeds and planted them all in the earth and with a little moisture and the light and heat of the sun only one of them came to life and started growing above the dirt, which of those seeds would you care about?

The one that is alive, right? Would you give a shit or cry about the ones that didn't germinate? No?

If you want proof of God, grow. Get out of your grave and walk like a man. God is God of the living.

No, I would worry why none of the others came up. 1 out of 77, that means the planter person is doing something wrong. Better luck next time, hob.

Thats only you who would wonder. Why they did not grow is as obvious as it is irrelevant.

Failure is either from fear or conformity or laziness or just deliberately choosing to be a dick.


Whats your excuse?

 

[Taz]

I'm powerless to see any real proof of god. I guess god doesn't care about that. That's all I can conclude.

If you took seventy seven pot seeds and planted them all in the earth and with a little moisture and the light and heat of the sun only one of them came to life and started growing above the dirt, which of those seeds would you care about?

The one that is alive, right? Would you give a shit or cry about the ones that didn't germinate? No?

If you want proof of God, grow. Get out of your grave and walk like a man. God is God of the living.

No, I would worry why none of the others came up. 1 out of 77, that means the planter person is doing something wrong. Better luck next time, hob.

Thats only you who would wonder. Why they did not grow is as obvious as it is irrelevant.

Failure is either from fear or conformity or laziness, or watching too much fox news, internet porn, or just deliberately choosing to be a dick.


Whats your excuse?

The gardener who only gets 1 seed out of 77 to germinate is a total loser.

 

[norwegen]

I wonder how he'll repay that loan, seeing as how Democrats have damn near killed Christianity.

He might have to sell his new carpet.

 

[hobelim]

I'm powerless to see any real proof of god. I guess god doesn't care about that. That's all I can conclude.

If you took seventy seven pot seeds and planted them all in the earth and with a little moisture and the light and heat of the sun only one of them came to life and started growing above the dirt, which of those seeds would you care about?

The one that is alive, right? Would you give a shit or cry about the ones that didn't germinate? No?

If you want proof of God, grow. Get out of your grave and walk like a man. God is God of the living.

No, I would worry why none of the others came up. 1 out of 77, that means the planter person is doing something wrong. Better luck next time, hob.

Thats only you who would wonder. Why they did not grow is as obvious as it is irrelevant.

Failure is either from fear or conformity or laziness, or watching too much fox news, internet porn, or just deliberately choosing to be a dick.


Whats your excuse?

The gardener who only gets 1 seed out of 77 to germinate is a total loser.

lol.

Either you have what it takes to become more than a monkey or you don't.

Even you, as dumb as you are, figured that God must not really are about your petulant whining about seeing no proof of God.

Obviously, you are the loser....

 

[Crepitus]

Joel Osteen's Megachurch Got $4.4M PPP Loan

Lakewood Church in Houston, the nation's largest single-site megachurch led by celebrity pastor Joel Osteen, received a $4.44 million loan under the Paycheck Protection Program in July.

www.newsmax.com

Osteen had a net worth of about $60 million in 2017, according to media reports, but Ilof noted, "since 2004, Pastors Joel and Victoria Osteen have not received salaries from Lakewood Church, and the PPP funds do not provide any personal financial benefit to them, whatsoever."

He claims the money went to pay his 300+ employees. Um hm. And I'm snow white.
It's guys like this that ruin religion. He's a con man, in my opinion.

While I agree he is a con man, of he actually shut down operations and idled 300 employees for at least 6 months it's not an unreasonable amount. Under $15,000 each.

However, I seriously doubt he shut down his megachurch.

 

[Crepitus]

I wonder how he'll repay that loan, seeing as how Democrats have damn near killed Christianity.

He might have to sell his new carpet.

Christianity has damn near killed itself.

Death by hypocrisy.

 

[Crepitus]

Living around Houston I can say I have never liked the guy and will never donate to his Church so he can live a lavish lifestyle...

Exactly!!

I don't expect vows of poverty, but what these people do is a crime.

 

[ding]

Religion is a con man's game.

It doesn't surprise me that you see it that way, GT. The reality is that it is a tool and like all tools it can be used for good or bad. That you can't see that goes to your lack of objectivity.

You're wrong, for starters and like usual. I didnt say it can't be "used" for good. Congratulations on your straw man, do your ding self pats on the back and all...don't sell anyone short.

Right. All you said was that religion is a con man's game.

 

[ding]

look at falwell jr...millions donated to trump causes from liberty university to pay back covering up his sex scandal

trump and his ilk have damn near killed christianity

Come now, I'm sure you would have something else to complain about Christianity.

Christianity is for pretenders and role players.

It would have been shocking if you saw it any other way, Taz.

Of course your shortsightedness only harms you and your family. It doesn't affect me at all.

So god is going to punish me in some way because I never saw any proof?

No. You are punishing yourself so to speak. But not because you never saw any proof. Because you can't see the forest for the trees and missed out on the wisdom.

Not to worry though... everything works for good. You just won't likely be able to see it.

My brain just sees no real proof. I can't really help that. Wouldn't god want to help me out on this?

Wow, you just admitted to being powerless. Good job.

As for what God wants, I suspect He wants you to experience existence and choose for yourself. It isn't virtuous if you are forced to be virtuous.

I'm powerless to see any real proof of god. I guess god doesn't care about that. That's all I can conclude.

I am certain that that is all you can conclude, Taz.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The only guy I would love to punch in the mouth.

 

[Picaro]

Joel Osteen's Megachurch Got $4.4M PPP Loan

Lakewood Church in Houston, the nation's largest single-site megachurch led by celebrity pastor Joel Osteen, received a $4.44 million loan under the Paycheck Protection Program in July.

www.newsmax.com

Osteen had a net worth of about $60 million in 2017, according to media reports, but Ilof noted, "since 2004, Pastors Joel and Victoria Osteen have not received salaries from Lakewood Church, and the PPP funds do not provide any personal financial benefit to them, whatsoever."

He claims the money went to pay his 300+ employees. Um hm. And I'm snow white.
It's guys like this that ruin religion. He's a con man, in my opinion.

His claims are valid; he hasn't taken a dime from the church since 2004, and also paid off its construction bonds out of his own pockets; he doesn't have to con anybody, and you kiss all the dwarves for me, Snow.

 

[Picaro]

Living around Houston I can say I have never liked the guy and will never donate to his Church so he can live a lavish lifestyle...

lol he doesn't make money from the church, not a dime. You're just stupid, that's all. You will however pour money into some drug cartel's pockets with no concerns about how they murder others and terrorize whole countries, though, then snivel that 'Da guvmint makes me buy dope from thugs!!!' and you support BLM scum and Biden's extortion rackets.

You can say you have less than zero room to be talking shit about anybody else, Commi Boi.

 

[Picaro]

Osteen had a net worth of about $60 million in 2017, according to media reports, but Ilof noted, "since 2004, Pastors Joel and Victoria Osteen have not received salaries from Lakewood Church, and the PPP funds do not provide any personal financial benefit to them, whatsoever."

From your article, many gyms, restaurants, bars went belly up.

Considering how much he made from book publishers' advance alone, a 'net worth of $60 million' just shows he has indeed given away most of his earnings, while you cry in your breakfast beer and wait for your meth dealer to call you back.

 

[Picaro]

Living around Houston I can say I have never liked the guy and will never donate to his Church so he can live a lavish lifestyle...

Exactly!!

I don't expect vows of poverty, but what these people do is a crime.

Really? Considering he's made over $300 million just from book advances alone, he's down some $240 million; doesn't sound like he's all that greedy. Allowing some 52% in income taxes, $156 million, which paid for a lot of welfare bennies for others, he's given away some $84 million, more than his current worth. So, tell us how much you've given away, and your tax bills stack up to Osteen's, again? lol you'll never contribute a fraction of his contributions for a week to anything but your dope dealers.

 

[james bond]

The gardener who only gets 1 seed out of 77 to germinate is a total loser.

Maybe you need more fertilizer to grow Taz. The others get sunshine, water, food, and a little love and blossom.

 

[Picaro]

The gardener who only gets 1 seed out of 77 to germinate is a total loser.

Maybe you need more fertilizer to grow Taz. The others get sunshine, water, food, and a little love and blossom.

Some of us think he's pretty full of 'fertilizer' right now.

 

[fncceo]

look at falwell jr...millions donated to trump causes from liberty university to pay back covering up his sex scandal

trump and his ilk have damn near killed christianity

Come now, I'm sure you would have something else to complain about Christianity.

Ya, Jesus was gay. Well, not a complaint, more like an observation.

He did spend a lot of time washing the other guys feet ... just sayin'.