Official USMB Debate 2020 -- "Round One" Thread..

[charwin95]

Hunter Biden announced his intention to resign from the company in October 2019 so as not to complicate the U.S. Presidential aspirations of his father, Joe Biden,[5] but as of Q2 2020 company records still show him employed as a board member.

Inside the shady private equity firm run by Kerry and Biden’s kids

“My frustration,” writes Peter Schweizer in his new book, “Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends,” “is not that the solid rep…

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Who cares about Hunter? We need to know where is Trump tax returns.

It's so sad that a sitting president can't run on his accomplishments, and instead resorts to attacking his opponents family.

That proved how low is this lying moron.

 

[lantern2814]

Biden is now officially DONE. Blatantly lying about his positions, refusing to answer questions, refusing to say law and order, refusing to disavow Antifa or BLM, trying to claim the Proud Boys are responsible for HIS people’s violence, the list goes on. To finish him, Telemundo viewers, you know, Spanish speaking residents, gave Trump the win at almost a 70% rate. Even Wallace couldn’t save him.

can anyone follow this.

Anybody who speaks English and actually watched and listened. Leaving you out obviously. Another literate uneducated leftie heard from.

 

[lantern2814]

You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".

Nobody who supports keeping up racist Confederate monuments is a "fine person". They are all awful racists.

This never, ever should have been a complicated issue.

The real problem is, Trump is the toxic final version of White Resentment Politics. This is why he can't denounce racists.

Time to slap you again. Trump denounced REAL racist and white supremacist groups in 2016. As the Biden lover Wallace knows because HE asked the question. Joe Biden has NEVER ONCE denounced Antifa, BLM, his love of George Wallace and the KKK, hi s SUPPORT for keeping schools segregated. The racists are lefties. Period. Proven and undeniable.

 

[charwin95]

I totally agree. Biden lied most of the time, scoffed and chuckled about things that were true. In other words - like any politician. I am only speaking about the debate itself. Just the debate.
You can't possibly say Trump acted like a President last night. That was the leader of the free world??
I don't know what happened to him. He has never acted that unhinged before.

You're kidding, right? Trump has been this fucking unhinged for the last four years. This is who Trump is. This is what you all voted for when you passed up 16 other candidates, including Governor and Senators, to pick THIS clown.

You sound like the Bride who complains about the husband her whole family told her NOT to marry.

Bided refused to admit he would pack the court, just didn't answer. Biden also called Antifa an "idea". Trump was unhinged. Four years of dealing with the biased media came spilling out in one debate. Likely felt refreshing for him but IMO was a poor strategy. Biden also denied that Hunter received all that money from Burisma, China and Russia but he did. Poor performance by both candidates.


From 2014 to 2019, Hunter Biden was a paid member of the board of directors of Burisma Holdings, a large Ukrainian natural gas producer. The company’s owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, was investigated for alleged corruption and bribery in the U.K. and Ukraine. Between 2015 and 2016, Ukraine’s prosecutor general was Viktor Shokin, whose office conducted an investigation into Zlochevsky.

In January 2018, Joe Biden spoke at a Council on Foreign Relations meeting and recounted the pressure that the Obama administration in general, and himself in particular, had placed on Ukraine’s government to fire Shokin. That pressure included threatening to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees to the country.''


Hunter Biden and his associate, Archer, had a financial relationship with Russian businesswoman Elena Baturina. Baturina is the former wife of the late Yuri Luzhkov, who was the mayor of Moscow and was fired in 2010 by then-Russian president Dmitry Medvedev over corruption allegations. Baturina became Russia’s only female billionaire when her plastics company, Inteko, received a series of Moscow municipal contracts while her husband was mayor.

…On Feb. 14, 2014, Baturina wired $3.5 million to a Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC (Rosemont Seneca Thornton) bank account for a “Consultancy Agreement DD12.02.2014.” Rosemont Seneca Thornton is an investment firm co-founded by Hunter Biden that was incorporated on May 28, 2013 in Wilmington, Del.

Rosemont Seneca Thornton was not Hunter Biden’s company. He had nothing to do with that company.

I will wait for your admission of error again.

Lone Leftist please stop trolling.

Hunter Biden announced his intention to resign from the company in October 2019 so as not to complicate the U.S. Presidential aspirations of his father, Joe Biden,[5] but as of Q2 2020 company records still show him employed as a board member.

Inside the shady private equity firm run by Kerry and Biden’s kids

“My frustration,” writes Peter Schweizer in his new book, “Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends,” “is not that the solid rep…

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Who cares about Hunter? We need to know where is Trump tax returns.

1. Yeah cause Trumps personal tax returns from 3-4 years ago to prove an unimportant point, is sooo much more important than

2. Biden using his position to pressure foreign governments to give his son money.

You are not properly informed.

1. Two out of 3 Americans wants to know Trump tax returns. That proved Trump is a corrupted, disgusting, dishonest person. He didn’t pay his taxes 10 of 15 years that means he is a loser. Just like he is acting right now how he rule this country like a lunatic king.

2. That is what Fox News, Guilliani, Russians and Trump are telling you....... no proof or evidence that has come out after a year of bullshit.


https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24G14N

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Two out of three Americans want to see President Donald Trump's income taxes, and about half believe he has been withholding them for reasons that could hurt him politically, according to a Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll.

 

[charwin95]

And why should Biden answer the questions from that moron? Trump is not the moderator. Trump refused to condemn the White supremacist and proud boys a well know racist groups. That tells us Trump is a racist dog shit.

why debate him then? sort of stupid to say to the American people pick me, but you don't deserve to know what I stand for or what I will be proposing.

And he didn't answer Wallace's questions. take your head out of biden's ass whiner.

That’s one of the dumbest thing I heard in this thread. So you are dictating a new rule for Trump? Biden and Trump should answer to the moderator’s questions NOT from that bully asshole that keeps interrupting.
Biden answered most of Wallace questions. Trump did not answer several questions especially no health care plan. Trump showed no class.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Yeah except Hunter pays $12,000 a month for a magnificent mansion in L.A.
Even though he is currently unemployed. And without Burisma's windfall, as well as China... he would have no other source of income to explain how he covers that.
Oh... and did I mention he drives a $129,000 Porche?

Yes, he's done very well as a business advisor. What's your point? Frankly, your side is just fine with the idle rich.

Except this guy, I guess.

HAHAHAHAAA.... that is hilarious. NO ONE paid him for business advice. NO ONE. He has never ran a business, a failed lawyer with a drug problem. His "business advice" company is obviously just a front to receive checks from peole his daddy pressured into paying.
... successful business advisor...

Great, let's see your evidence Joe Biden pressured anyone to give his son a job....

I have not seen one shred of evidence to that effect.

And, after all, it is pretty common for someone with no knowledge of an industry, and who has a coke habit, and who's morals are measured in angstroms.....to get $600,000/year gigs.

 

[Faun]

Yeah except Hunter pays $12,000 a month for a magnificent mansion in L.A.
Even though he is currently unemployed. And without Burisma's windfall, as well as China... he would have no other source of income to explain how he covers that.
Oh... and did I mention he drives a $129,000 Porche?

Yes, he's done very well as a business advisor. What's your point? Frankly, your side is just fine with the idle rich.

Except this guy, I guess.

HAHAHAHAAA.... that is hilarious. NO ONE paid him for business advice. NO ONE. He has never ran a business, a failed lawyer with a drug problem. His "business advice" company is obviously just a front to receive checks from peole his daddy pressured into paying.
... successful business advisor...

Great, let's see your evidence Joe Biden pressured anyone to give his son a job....

I have not seen one shred of evidence to that effect.

And, after all, it is pretty common for someone with no knowledge of an industry, and who has a coke habit, and who's morals are measured in angstroms.....to get $600,000/year gigs.

Not as uncommon for someone with powerful parents.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Yeah except Hunter pays $12,000 a month for a magnificent mansion in L.A.
Even though he is currently unemployed. And without Burisma's windfall, as well as China... he would have no other source of income to explain how he covers that.
Oh... and did I mention he drives a $129,000 Porche?

Yes, he's done very well as a business advisor. What's your point? Frankly, your side is just fine with the idle rich.

Except this guy, I guess.

HAHAHAHAAA.... that is hilarious. NO ONE paid him for business advice. NO ONE. He has never ran a business, a failed lawyer with a drug problem. His "business advice" company is obviously just a front to receive checks from peole his daddy pressured into paying.
... successful business advisor...

Great, let's see your evidence Joe Biden pressured anyone to give his son a job....

I have not seen one shred of evidence to that effect.

And, after all, it is pretty common for someone with no knowledge of an industry, and who has a coke habit, and who's morals are measured in angstroms.....to get $600,000/year gigs.

Not as uncommon for someone with powerful parents.

Correct.

Wonder why that is ?

 

[Faun]

Yeah except Hunter pays $12,000 a month for a magnificent mansion in L.A.
Even though he is currently unemployed. And without Burisma's windfall, as well as China... he would have no other source of income to explain how he covers that.
Oh... and did I mention he drives a $129,000 Porche?

Yes, he's done very well as a business advisor. What's your point? Frankly, your side is just fine with the idle rich.

Except this guy, I guess.

HAHAHAHAAA.... that is hilarious. NO ONE paid him for business advice. NO ONE. He has never ran a business, a failed lawyer with a drug problem. His "business advice" company is obviously just a front to receive checks from peole his daddy pressured into paying.
... successful business advisor...

Great, let's see your evidence Joe Biden pressured anyone to give his son a job....

I have not seen one shred of evidence to that effect.

And, after all, it is pretty common for someone with no knowledge of an industry, and who has a coke habit, and who's morals are measured in angstroms.....to get $600,000/year gigs.

Not as uncommon for someone with powerful parents.

Correct.

Wonder why that is ?

Because companies can make big bucks due to name recognition.

 

[jbander]

Already reading that numerous democrats don't want Slow Joe to debate again. Wow! Even his own supporters are telling him to stop.

I told them Biden can't handle an opponent as strong as Trump. Hell Hillary barely stood her ground and she's about as nasty as the Dems have.

Phhhhhheewww....oh boy....

First off, hats off to Wallace. That could not have been an easy job. For those of you who say Wallace is a disgrace...you are entitled to your opinion...but I just dont see it.

I imagine wallace, after he leaves tonight is going to have himself a stiff drink.....or 18....

I did not see where wallace was favoring trump at all. He spent most of the debate trying to shut trump down. Again, that chair was a tough place to be tonight.

Say what you will, but biden did it. He held out for the entire debate and didn't cave. Sure, he had a few moments where he got a bit tongue tied, but at the end of it all, he didn't turn into the nonsensical babbling person people thought he would. For the most part, he stayed on point. Its because of this that I think trumps antics actually helped biden.

Biden, by withstanding trumps onslaught, showed people he has more resolve. I think this is going to play well for biden, not so much for trump.

Trump had a good opportunity here to prove all of his critics wrong. He should have stood up there, and respected biden. He should have respected Wallace, and the rules of the debate. They both should have spoken when it was their turn and respected the other person when it wasn't.

Trump had an opportunity to look presidential, but he didn't do it. He had to be the aggressor and the bully. He had to dominate and try to shut biden down. He could have been the bigger man, and people would have gained respect for him, because he would have shown the country that he could stand there and carry on a debate, calmly, and with reservation.

Again, I think this is not going to play well for trump. Let's hope someone talks to him and gives him some constructive criticism before their next debate.

I think most people have already made up their minds, so, in the long run, this will probably not really hurt trump.

200 million?

Huh?

You say the Slow Joe "did it"... But he claimed 200 million have died from Covid. That statement alone showed his 47 years of doing nothing has destructed his brain. The old man is shot. He had nothing but deflecting fake laughs. President Trump is living in his head now rent free. Let him keep fake laughing while people are dying.

Was biden gaffe free? No, but I think he did a lot better than most people were expecting.

People were claiming he needed breaks because he couldn't handle 90 minutes straight. People were saying he was going to fall apart.

Again, say what you will, he withstood better than most thought he would, and with trump interrupting and trying rattle him the whole time, I think it may have backfired on trump.

He was lucid, manipulative, and just kept telling one huge lie after another.

Wallace allowed Biden to lie with impunity, Trump had to jump in and do the moderating.

When your opposition starts attacking the moderator for their candidates rather poor performance, then you know you won.

Considering the fact that Wallace was doing the job of 4 moderator and how poorly the candidates followed the rules, I think he did a very good job. If I was Wallace, I would have politely told them to shut up and then I would have turned off their mike. This wasn't a debate, it was a shouting match in which each candidate spent as much time off topic as they spent on topic.

If you're ahead in the polls, as Biden seems to be, he did quite a bit better than he had to. I think he actually gained ground.

I think the debate probably energized both candidates base for different reasons.

Biden's base breathed a sign of relief. Trump couldn't shake him, he was effective when he addressed the TV audience, something Trump should have done more of, he answered most of the questions, and he made Trump look like a angry bully unable to defend his actions other than launching off topic attacks on Biden.

Trump's base got exactly what they wanted from Trump, interrupting Biden over and over, talking over him, lots of attacks, and going off topic to make wildly exaggerated claims.

For the non-political types hoping to learn something knew, they turned it off after 20 mins. For them it was two angry people shouting and talking over each other.

If it is as you say, which it wasn't, Biden won big time ,Trump is way behind in the polls because of who he is , his only chance of changing that was to show up less Nazi instead of more Nazi. Biden won.

Polls are meaningless except for their trends they represent. The trends are positive. I hope it translates at the ballot boxes.

Don't agree at all even it just shows a trend they are not meaningless. They show much more then trends They are generally a good study of the numbers. That's all a poll is suppose to be. If you are assuming that they are the total in their prediction , that is your mistake not the polls.

 

[charwin95]

You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".

Nobody who supports keeping up racist Confederate monuments is a "fine person". They are all awful racists.

This never, ever should have been a complicated issue.

The real problem is, Trump is the toxic final version of White Resentment Politics. This is why he can't denounce racists.

Time to slap you again. Trump denounced REAL racist and white supremacist groups in 2016. As the Biden lover Wallace knows because HE asked the question. Joe Biden has NEVER ONCE denounced Antifa, BLM, his love of George Wallace and the KKK, hi s SUPPORT for keeping schools segregated. The racists are lefties. Period. Proven and undeniable.

You are wrongly informed. True Trump denounced racist and white supremacist in 2016. Here is the problem.
That was 2016 between now and then Trump had displayed racism and spread hatred.
1. Proud Boys rallies are seen carrying with Trumps banners. Meaning these hate groups supports this racist dog shit president.

2. That was 2016. IF THEY ASKED YOU AGAIN TODAY. You answer the same way again like you did in 2016. You can NOT pick and choose using times as an excuse when you denounced or love a hate groups. Unless Trump changed his mind that he now love and support these hate groups. Trump responded stand by and stand back endorsing these militia hate groups that made them celebrate.

3. Biden denounced violence including the antifa. Even Fox News are telling you that you are lying. Trump has not condemned any of these militia hate groups and the Russians. Even Fox News and GOP senators McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Tim Scott blasted Trump for failing to denounce these militia hate groups.


Biden condemns Antifa, violence 'across the board' amid riots | Fox News

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said he condemns violence "across the board," including from Antifa, when he was asked about it during a local TV interviewMonday.

"I've condemned it across the board," Biden told Pennsylvania's WGAL News 8 in an interview Monday, referring to violence during protests. "The president still hasn't condemned the far-right folks coming out and protesting and using violence."

 

[jbander]

I have a question for Trump supporters:

If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?

Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?

Or has the climate changed?

How is it rainfall and temperatures are normal?

How is that you can lie like that , normal ya , hate nazi normal.

How is it you slander so easily? Temps and rainfall are the same today as they were 25 years ago.

well ace that just stupid , if all the rain went to farm productive areas 25 years ago and instead went to the deserts then you rain fall number is bullshit. same with your temperature. Your answer is third grade at the most. Its weather change that is the issue. Not hot and cold, for instance you can make Europe as cold as Minnesota by raising the world temp or raising it in Greenland. The simple point is you have no clue. But that's not the thread is it. The thread has agreed that Trump is a pile of shit, with a few distracted who have no clue.

 

[jbander]

You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".

Nobody who supports keeping up racist Confederate monuments is a "fine person". They are all awful racists.

This never, ever should have been a complicated issue.

The real problem is, Trump is the toxic final version of White Resentment Politics. This is why he can't denounce racists.

Time to slap you again. Trump denounced REAL racist and white supremacist groups in 2016. As the Biden lover Wallace knows because HE asked the question. Joe Biden has NEVER ONCE denounced Antifa, BLM, his love of George Wallace and the KKK, hi s SUPPORT for keeping schools segregated. The racists are lefties. Period. Proven and undeniable.

You are wrongly informed. True Trump denounced racist and white supremacist in 2016. Here is the problem.
That was 2016 between now and then Trump had displayed racism and spread hatred.
1. Proud Boys rallies are seen carrying with Trumps banners. Meaning these hate groups supports this racist dog shit president.

2. That was 2016. IF THEY ASKED YOU AGAIN TODAY. You answer the same way again like you did in 2016. You can NOT pick and choose using times as an excuse when you denounced or love a hate groups. Unless Trump changed his mind that he now love and support these hate groups. Trump responded stand by and stand back endorsing these militia hate groups that made them celebrate.

3. Biden denounced violence including the antifa. Even Fox News are telling you that you are lying. Trump has not condemned any of these militia hate groups and the Russians. Even Fox News and GOP senators McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Tim Scott blasted Trump for failing to denounce these militia hate groups.


Biden condemns Antifa, violence 'across the board' amid riots | Fox News

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said he condemns violence "across the board," including from Antifa, when he was asked about it during a local TV interviewMonday.

"I've condemned it across the board," Biden told Pennsylvania's WGAL News 8 in an interview Monday, referring to violence during protests. "The president still hasn't condemned the far-right folks coming out and protesting and using violence."

Trump is a Racist and white supremacist. Had to be said in a simpler mode for the weak minded.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I have a question for Trump supporters:

If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?

Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?

Or has the climate changed?

How is it rainfall and temperatures are normal?

How is that you can lie like that , normal ya , hate nazi normal.

How is it you slander so easily? Temps and rainfall are the same today as they were 25 years ago.

well ace that just stupid , if all the rain went to farm productive areas 25 years ago and instead went to the deserts then you rain fall number is bullshit. same with your temperature. Your answer is third grade at the most. Its weather change that is the issue. Not hot and cold, for instance you can make Europe as cold as Minnesota by raising the world temp or raising it in Greenland. The simple point is you have no clue. But that's not the thread is it. The thread has agreed that Trump is a pile of shit, with a few distracted who have no clue.

Did you actually say anything in that word salad?
Don’t get mad at me because Democrats mismanagement of wild lands has led to an increase in fires.

 

[charwin95]

He didn’t insist that Biden explain why he thought Antifa was just an idea

Biden quoted Trump’s FBI director saying Antifa was an ideology

FBI director says antifa is an ideology, not an organization

WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director Chris Wray told lawmakers Thursday that antifa is an ideology, not an organization, delivering testimony that puts him at odds with President Donald Trump, who has said he would designate it a terror group.

apnews.com

And he's right, they aren't an organized group. In a way, white supremacists are the same - they are a collection of individuals and loosely organized groups around a central ideology. It makes it hard to actually classify them as a terrorist group.

so why didn't biden get the same question trump got? tell Antifa to stand down? why?

Biden denounced the violence it’s just that you are not just paying attention so fascinated with that lying bully moron. Even Fox News tells you that you are lying. So there’s no need to ask Biden the same question.
Trump has not denounced or said anything about these racist hate groups. The same with the Russians.

Biden condemns Antifa, violence 'across the board' amid riots | Fox News

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said he condemns violence "across the board," including from Antifa, when he was asked about it during a local TV interview Monday.

www.foxnews.com

nope never did it. didn't do anything of the sort. he deflected said Antifa is an idea. an idea that burned Minnesota, looted Macy's in Chiraq. held Portland and seattle Hostage while killing innocent people. yeah nice idea that he didn't condemn nor did he tell the governors and mayors to stop it all. nope didn't do anything. sat on his ass whacking away.

Pay attention. Read my post do not stare at it. Yes Antifa is an idea not an organization supported by Trump FBI Director Wray. These proud boys and White supremacist are labeled as an extremist hate group by the FBI. Do you see the difference?
And why in the hell Biden should give orders to mayors and governors? He is an ordinary citizen like you and me. That is Trump’s job isn’t it? So you are going to blame Biden for Trump failures to address these violence?That is Trump’s job. isn’t it? ALL these violence and riots are under Trump’s years of administration of failed policies. Your MORON has not even address police brutalities.

US Election 2020: Who are the Proud Boys - and who are antifa?

The FBI has officially declared the 'Proud Boys,' a far-right 'Western chauvinist' group with a penchant for street fights, as 'extremist'

The FBI has officially declared the far-right "Proud Boys" as an "extremist group with ties to white nationalism."

www.businessinsider.com

 

[charwin95]

The awful mess was Hidin' Biden and his buddy Wallace. Care4all and other TDS folks prove there are two Americas, those who are mentally ill and those who are not. Hidin' Biden stumbled through lie after lie. And President Trump barely got started. Looking forward to the next "mess" in which Hidin' Biden gets massacred again.

This was a pretty neat moment though, huh?

Donald Trump sidesteps call to condemn white supremacists — and the Proud Boys were 'extremely excited' about it

Debate moderator Chris Wallace asked if Donald Trump would urge groups to stand down and avoid contributing to the violence. He sidestepped.

www.usatoday.com

The Proud Boys are not a ws group, nor a hate group. Trump was right to NOT denounce them.


AND might I add, the question is bullshit. ws are a fringe movement with no importance.

Wrong...a POtuS that refused to condemn terrorism is something I thought I would never see. That debate was sad for America.

Walking and defending your self when attacked, is the opposite of terrorism.


It is sad that America needs to be told that.

When a President is asked to condemn violence after an election and he refuses to do so, that is a sad day for America democracy.

Self defense is not something to be condemned, but something to be celebrated.

The attackers, ie antifa, are something to be condemned.

Was Biden asked to condemn them?

Biden made clear he condemned violence across the board. Why didn’t Trump do the same?

I'm sure that's a rhetorical question. You know why.

I think it was a fair question asked by Trump on when he said "who do you want me to condemn, give me a name."

They did, and he said "Proud Boys, Stand Back and Stand By", and then quickly changed the subject.

Now there can be no doubt.

The Proud Boys are not ws, and not terrorists and are not rioting. They march and defend themselves when attacked by lefty mobs.

Knowing you for several years I always knew that you are a supporter of these hate groups. These hate groups like Proud Boys and White Supremacist are designed to eliminate minorities and create chaos an extremist labeled by the FBI. They emboldened and grew under the watch of Trump now acting like this is his private army.
These hate groups do not have a problem executing ethnic cleansing against your fellow Americans THAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING. I’m sure you are very proud of that.

 

[charwin95]

I have a question for Trump supporters:

If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?

Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?

Or has the climate changed?

How is it rainfall and temperatures are normal?

How is that you can lie like that , normal ya , hate nazi normal.

How is it you slander so easily? Temps and rainfall are the same today as they were 25 years ago.

well ace that just stupid , if all the rain went to farm productive areas 25 years ago and instead went to the deserts then you rain fall number is bullshit. same with your temperature. Your answer is third grade at the most. Its weather change that is the issue. Not hot and cold, for instance you can make Europe as cold as Minnesota by raising the world temp or raising it in Greenland. The simple point is you have no clue. But that's not the thread is it. The thread has agreed that Trump is a pile of shit, with a few distracted who have no clue.

Did you actually say anything in that word salad?
Don’t get mad at me because Democrats mismanagement of wild lands has led to an increase in fires.

Oh please!
That was not the topic till that ignorant amateur, incompetent president told you. Just because Trump told you doesn’t mean it make sense. So let me entertain your ignorance because I’m so sick of hearing this. PAY ATTENTION.
1. We have a record breaking heat compared from last year and the year before, triple digits for many weeks just like this week. Some areas reached 130°.
2. We have drought.
3. We have Santa Ana winds. Do you know when heat and hot winds going on at the same time? Those leaves, twigs, dried branches way up there will fall causing sparks and burned live trees. Even if you clean the forest floors.
4. Lots of those Wild fires are under federal lands. So why is Trump not doing anything?
5. Most cannot access except helicopters.

1, 2, 3, 5. You don’t see that in any part of America except here in California.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I have a question for Trump supporters:

If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?

Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?

Or has the climate changed?

How is it rainfall and temperatures are normal?

How is that you can lie like that , normal ya , hate nazi normal.

How is it you slander so easily? Temps and rainfall are the same today as they were 25 years ago.

well ace that just stupid , if all the rain went to farm productive areas 25 years ago and instead went to the deserts then you rain fall number is bullshit. same with your temperature. Your answer is third grade at the most. Its weather change that is the issue. Not hot and cold, for instance you can make Europe as cold as Minnesota by raising the world temp or raising it in Greenland. The simple point is you have no clue. But that's not the thread is it. The thread has agreed that Trump is a pile of shit, with a few distracted who have no clue.

Did you actually say anything in that word salad?
Don’t get mad at me because Democrats mismanagement of wild lands has led to an increase in fires.

Oh please!
That was not the topic till that ignorant amateur, incompetent president told you. Just because Trump told you doesn’t mean it make sense. So let me entertain your ignorance because I’m so sick of hearing this. PAY ATTENTION.
1. We have a record breaking heat compared from last year and the year before, triple digits for many weeks just like this week. Some areas reached 130°.
2. We have drought.
3. We have Santa Ana winds. Do you know when heat and hot winds going on at the same time? Those leaves, twigs, dried branches way up there will fall causing sparks and burned live trees. Even if you clean the forest floors.
4. Lots of those Wild fires are under federal lands. So why is Trump not doing anything?
5. Most cannot access except helicopters.

1, 2, 3, 5. You don’t see that in any part of America except here in California.

You Leftards hate science. Those winds go back to the beginning of North America and temps and rainfall are within one standard deviation of normal. Which means rainfall is normal. Unlike it was 1,500 years ago when California experienced a decades long drought.
But let me guess. Mankind caused it.
And we only see it in California because it’s run by Leftards.

 

[charwin95]

And what do

I have a question for Trump supporters:

If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?

Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?

Or has the climate changed?

How is it rainfall and temperatures are normal?

How is that you can lie like that , normal ya , hate nazi normal.

How is it you slander so easily? Temps and rainfall are the same today as they were 25 years ago.

well ace that just stupid , if all the rain went to farm productive areas 25 years ago and instead went to the deserts then you rain fall number is bullshit. same with your temperature. Your answer is third grade at the most. Its weather change that is the issue. Not hot and cold, for instance you can make Europe as cold as Minnesota by raising the world temp or raising it in Greenland. The simple point is you have no clue. But that's not the thread is it. The thread has agreed that Trump is a pile of shit, with a few distracted who have no clue.

Did you actually say anything in that word salad?
Don’t get mad at me because Democrats mismanagement of wild lands has led to an increase in fires.

What do you know about weather anyway? except supporting an IDIOT, LIAR president. He BULLSHIT most of the time and what makes you think he knows what he is talking about?

Here is an example how he can just lie in front of 73 millions viewers..... During the debate Trump mentioned Portland sheriff Mike Reese endorsed him. That lying SOB never endorsed Trump. That’s the president of US Disgusting and disgraceful. What a pity.

Trump claims in debate ‘Portland Sheriff’ gave him endorsement; Reese quickly responds: I ‘will never support him’

Portland has been discussed on the presidential debate stage multiple times, including President Donald Trump saying he secured the endorsement of the "sheriff of Portland." Presumably, Trump meant Multnomah County Sheriff Mike Reese.

www.oregonlive.com

President Donald Trump during Tuesday night’s debate said he secured the endorsement of the “Portland sheriff” -- presumably a reference to Multnomah County Sheriff Mike Reese.
Reese shortly after tweeted that was false.

“In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the ‘Portland Sheriff’ supports him," Reese said on Twitter. "As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him.”

 

[charwin95]

I have a question for Trump supporters:

If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?

Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?

Or has the climate changed?

How is it rainfall and temperatures are normal?

How is that you can lie like that , normal ya , hate nazi normal.

How is it you slander so easily? Temps and rainfall are the same today as they were 25 years ago.

well ace that just stupid , if all the rain went to farm productive areas 25 years ago and instead went to the deserts then you rain fall number is bullshit. same with your temperature. Your answer is third grade at the most. Its weather change that is the issue. Not hot and cold, for instance you can make Europe as cold as Minnesota by raising the world temp or raising it in Greenland. The simple point is you have no clue. But that's not the thread is it. The thread has agreed that Trump is a pile of shit, with a few distracted who have no clue.

Did you actually say anything in that word salad?
Don’t get mad at me because Democrats mismanagement of wild lands has led to an increase in fires.

Oh please!
That was not the topic till that ignorant amateur, incompetent president told you. Just because Trump told you doesn’t mean it make sense. So let me entertain your ignorance because I’m so sick of hearing this. PAY ATTENTION.
1. We have a record breaking heat compared from last year and the year before, triple digits for many weeks just like this week. Some areas reached 130°.
2. We have drought.
3. We have Santa Ana winds. Do you know when heat and hot winds going on at the same time? Those leaves, twigs, dried branches way up there will fall causing sparks and burned live trees. Even if you clean the forest floors.
4. Lots of those Wild fires are under federal lands. So why is Trump not doing anything?
5. Most cannot access except helicopters.

1, 2, 3, 5. You don’t see that in any part of America except here in California.

You Leftards hate science. Those winds go back to the beginning of North America and temps and rainfall are within one standard deviation of normal. Which means rainfall is normal. Unlike it was 1,500 years ago when California experienced a decades long drought.
But let me guess. Mankind caused it.
And we only see it in California because it’s run by Leftards.

What do you mean we hate science? Cleaning the forest makes you think you know anything about science?

Let say it’s run by Republicans. Do you think we’ll get more rains, do you think the Santa Ana winds will stop, do you think the record breaking heat of triple digits for many weeks will get colder??? Those mountains that cannot be access except helicopters will miraculously get flattened so we can clean the forest floors??? What science are you talking about?

I’ll wait for your answer.