Official Thread for Denial of GreenHouse Effect and Radiative Physics.

[EMH]

What's your point, tard? Express it like an educated adult. I bet you wouldn't know what a cumulonimbus cloud is if you bent over and got a billion joules of energy zapped into your ass.

The FIRST THING the Global Warming crowd had to prove what that increasing atmospheric Co2 warmed the atmosphere.

They NEVER got that.

We have two and only two measures of atmospheric temps = satellites and balloons. Both showed NO WARMING during rising Co2 (plus Urban Heat Sink Effect ongoing) and were highly correlated. Both showed cooler than normal atmosphere in 1998, Bill Clinton's first "warmest year ever" claim.

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.

Scientists were left with two choices: either the atmosphere wasn't warming up, or something was wrong with the data.


NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE!!!!

Gotta love the word "suggested." Your outside thermometer "suggested" it was 70F, but you really need a conflicted taxpayer funded "scientist" to "correct" that to 80F...


Their excuses for fudging the data.

"Orbit wobble" - fudge the satellites higher

"shade issues" which were constant the whole time and did not affect measurement of temperature CHANGE = fudge those higher



As with ocean rise, canes, ice melting etc., they never got to first base on this. They just FUDGED and LIED. The Co2 fraud is the greatest ever crime against the environment, because it is misdiagnosing the fresh water shortage issue, and that IS A REAL PROBLEM with real consequences. Human overconsumption of nature's fresh water will result in what... Desalination is a band aid but at least it is something and the Co2 "crowds out" that because the Co2 fraud can never steal enough money...

 

[multivita-man]

The FIRST THING the Global Warming crowd had to prove what that increasing atmospheric Co2 warmed the atmosphere.

They NEVER got that.

Oh I'm pretty sure we got that, lol

 

[EMH]

Oh I'm pretty sure we got that, lol

DATA is DATA. There are only two sets. Both showed no warming.

The only evidence that increasing atmospheric Co2 warms the atmosphere is from 100% pure FUDGE....

 

[multivita-man]

DATA is DATA. There are only two sets. Both showed no warming.

The only evidence that increasing atmospheric Co2 warms the atmosphere is from 100% pure FUDGE....

You can live in cartoonland all you want. There are millions of people in Asia - today and over the last few weeks - who have been dealing with record heat.

You all complain about migrants sneaking into the U.S. This is going to start happening on a massive scale because soon the daytime temperatures will be too hot for people to work in. This is happening in "South Asia" now. And oh by the way, it's only May and we're in the Northern Hemisphere.

 

[EMH]

You can live in cartoonland all you want. There are millions of people in Asia - today and over the last few weeks - who have been dealing with record heat.

You all complain about migrants sneaking into the U.S. This is going to start happening on a massive scale because soon the daytime temperatures will be too hot for people to work in. This is happening in "South Asia" now. And oh by the way, it's only May and we're in the Northern Hemisphere.

Misdiagnosing real problems is a side effect of morons who parrot the Co2 fraud.

A plate moving away from the nearest pole should in theory have "record heat" every year, since it is slightly warming every year. Yawn.

Meanwhile

NO WARMING in the atmopshere
NO WARMING in the oceans
NO ongoing net ice melt
NO breakout in Canes
NO Ocean Rise



Migration is a product of human overpopulation, and the two demographics migrating are the ones who have 10 kids per family...

 

[multivita-man]

Misdiagnosing real problems is a side effect of morons who parrot the Co2 fraud.

A plate moving away from the nearest pole should in theory have "record heat" every year, since it is slightly warming every year. Yawn.

Meanwhile

NO WARMING in the atmopshere
NO WARMING in the oceans
NO ongoing net ice melt
NO breakout in Canes
NO Ocean Rise



Migration is a product of human overpopulation, and the two demographics migrating are the ones who have 10 kids per family...

Blah. Blah. Fucking. Blah.

You are posting total nonsense, 100% of the time.

But here's the thing, mate: our biosphere doesn't give a shit. It doesn't care whether I or you 'win' this debate. It's going to change, and it will give zero fucks what happens to human and all life on the planet.

 

[westwall]

Blah. Blah. Fucking. Blah.

You are posting total nonsense, 100% of the time.

But here's the thing, mate: our biosphere doesn't give a shit. It doesn't care whether I or you 'win' this debate. It's going to change, and it will give zero fucks what happens to human and all life on the planet.

No shit Sherlock. And, more to the point, mankind hasn't got the power to change that one iota.

 

[EMH]

Blah. Blah. Fucking. Blah.

You are posting total nonsense, 100% of the time.

But here's the thing, mate: our biosphere doesn't give a shit. It doesn't care whether I or you 'win' this debate. It's going to change, and it will give zero fucks what happens to human and all life on the planet.

Truly brilliant analysis... NOT.

But, given your position, about all you can do. The Co2 fraud is complete fraud. It has NO EVIDENCE other than FUDGE to support it.

 

[multivita-man]

No shit Sherlock. And, more to the point, mankind hasn't got the power to change that one iota.

It certainly has the power to fuck it up even worse than it already has, but at this point, you might be at least partially correct, broken clock right twice a day and all: the damage may be irreversible. It's probably more important right now to figure out how we're going to deal with the consequences of what we have already done. Mining the shit out of the earth for heavy metals to build billions of EVs isn't the answer.

 

[multivita-man]

Truly brilliant analysis... NOT.

But, given your position, about all you can do. The Co2 fraud is complete fraud. It has NO EVIDENCE other than FUDGE to support it.

It's not a fraud; we're changing the biosphere. It doesn't even take an educated person to understand that. If you accept that human activity can make urban smog worse on a summer day, then you accept human activity is causing the climate to change. All of the gases we release into the atmosphere changes it, even if we don't always notice it with our eyes.

 

[westwall]

It certainly has the power to fuck it up even worse than it already has, but at this point, you might be at least partially correct, broken clock right twice a day and all: the damage may be irreversible. It's probably more important right now to figure out how we're going to deal with the consequences of what we have already done. Mining the shit out of the earth for heavy metals to build billions of EVs isn't the answer.

Mankind doesn't produce enough energy to raise the temp of the Earth one tiny bit. If we did, we would be flying to the asteroid belt as a common occurrence already.

The climate changes. Always has, always will. It takes extraordinary arrogance to think we can do anything about it.

 

[westwall]

It's not a fraud; we're changing the biosphere. It doesn't even take an educated person to understand that. If you accept that human activity can make urban smog worse on a summer day, then you accept human activity is causing the climate to change. All of the gases we release into the atmosphere changes it, even if we don't always notice it with our eyes.

Wrong. There is no doubt that man can affect LOCAL Temps. Urban Heat Island effect is well documented. But only the Amazon rain forest has the ability to control climate at the regional level.

 

[EMH]

we're changing the biosphere

Now the wordsmithing begins. It is "changing" but not WARMING - LOL!!!


YOUR SIDE CLAIMS WARMING. PROBLEM = ATMOSPHERE NOT WARMING despite rising Co2, because Co2 does NOTHING...

 

[multivita-man]

Mankind doesn't produce enough energy to raise the temp of the Earth one tiny bit. If we did, we would be flying to the asteroid belt as a common occurrence already.

Looks like someone doesn't really have a grasp of what the core problem is.

Producing energy per se isn't the problem, and it isn't what is raising temperatures; it's the waste that is caused from producing energy. The waste product is seeping into the atmosphere and changing it in ways that are causing it to trap radiation, thereby causing increased warmth in the troposphere.

The climate changes. Always has, always will. It takes extraordinary arrogance to think we can do anything about it.

As it is with forest fires and habitat destruction, there may be natural occurrences, but that in no way precludes manmade causes. We are adding gases to the atmosphere at levels that cannot be absorbed naturally by 'sinks' like oceans and flora.

 

[multivita-man]

Now the wordsmithing begins. It is "changing" but not WARMING - LOL!!!

Warming is an effect of the change, dipshit.

It's amusing and comical to watch you drop the mic and walk off like you think you won something when all you 'won' was the internet equivalent of a stuffed animal without any stuffing inside.

 

[multivita-man]

Wrong. There is no doubt that man can affect LOCAL Temps. Urban Heat Island effect is well documented. But only the Amazon rain forest has the ability to control climate at the regional level.

Nope, not true at all. You clearly have no conceptual understanding of how the atmosphere is and how it functions. It's the atmosphere that makes most, if not all, multicellular life on earth possible. Change that, even slightly, and we're living on the same planet but with radically different conditions, which are likely incompatible with most forms of multicellular life. The microbes and other really small adaptable creatures will probably limp and soldier on, but the complex forms of life? Dead.

 

[ReinyDays]

So two objects at the same temperature can warm each other?

Hahaha haha hahaha

C'mon ... that's college science ... you're making these folks feel bad now ...

 

[westwall]

Nope, not true at all. You clearly have no conceptual understanding of how the atmosphere is and how it functions. It's the atmosphere that makes most, if not all, multicellular life on earth possible. Change that, even slightly, and we're living on the same planet but with radically different conditions, which are likely incompatible with most forms of multicellular life. The microbes and other really small adaptable creatures will probably limp and soldier on, but the complex forms of life? Dead.

Oh, I understand it very well. It is clear that you don't. Greenhouses work because you can close the windows.

Open them up and they get cold in a hurry.

The Earth has no windows to close.

 

[jc456]

C'mon ... that's college science ... you're making these folks feel bad now ...

notice they run away? I continue to laugh.

 

[jc456]

Blah. Blah. Fucking. Blah.

You are posting total nonsense, 100% of the time.

But here's the thing, mate: our biosphere doesn't give a shit. It doesn't care whether I or you 'win' this debate. It's going to change, and it will give zero fucks what happens to human and all life on the planet.

so why didn't you explain how the atmosphere is hotter than the surface? It's what you think right?