Official Coronavirus Thread - Up to the minute Coronavirus map and count.

[Sun Devil 92]

Reported deaths in AZ are near zero.

The state is working to get people to stop behaving like morons.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Sweden had a spike in cases.

Deaths continue to decline.

 

[U2Edge]

"CDC report offers detailed demographic breakdown of who is getting coronavirus
By Andrea Kane and Paul LeBlanc, CNN"

"Updated 10:01 PM ET, Mon June 15, 2020"

"New numbers released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention offer a comprehensive picture of who in the United States has been diagnosed with Covid-19 and how they fared."

"The report found that the incidence rate is 403.6 cases per 100,000, with men and women getting sick at almost the same rate. But the percentages of males who were hospitalized (16%), admitted to the ICU (3%) and who died (6%) were higher than were those for females (12%, 2% and 5%, respectively)."

"The rate was highest among people 80 and older and lowest among children 9 and younger. But the relationship between age and incidence rate was not a straight line: It was higher among peoples age 40-49 years and 50-59 years than among those age 60-69 years and 70-79 years."

CDC report offers detailed breakdown of who is getting coronavirus

New numbers released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention offer a comprehensive picture of who in the United States has been diagnosed with Covid-19 and how they fared.

www.cnn.com

The above facts demolish the idea among many Trumper's that opening up is ok because its just a disease that mainly effects older people above the age of 60. WRONG! This new data from the CDC shows that people between the ages of 40 to 59 are at GREATER risk than those from age 60 to 79, when it comes to the impact of covid-19 or their health.

So no, the fantasy of just locking down all those old senior citizens while everyone goes about their business would not work even if it was possible.

 

[U2Edge]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

 

[U2Edge]

California is lighting off.

2,300 cases today.

Another blue state.......

A Blue State with plenty of Trumpers and those that think like Trumpers when it comes to the dangers of covid-19 and what should be done about it.

 

[percysunshine]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

 

[U2Edge]

Here's Italy. Would be nice if our number of cases would decrease like that.

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We opened back up too early.

As terrible as the situation got in Italy, they did the right thing and are now winning the battle against the virus.

Here in the United States, we finally started to see a decrease in cases and late April and early May and then essentially stopped the lockdown, just as we were starting to see some progress. Now 100,000 more Americans will die by October because of the policies of Trumpers and those that think like them.

 

[percysunshine]

Hawaii has a good plan.

No more tourists...ever.

 

[XponentialChaos]

2,800 new cases in Florida today. I wonder if that's a record for them.

 

[U2Edge]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

Most people from other countries travel to the United States the SAME WAY THEY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN AND NEW ZEALAND. Its called AIR TRAVEL. The North American and South American continents are JUST as much and Island as New Zealand and Taiwan when it comes to the travel of the Virus from its original source in Wuhan China.

The United States can control who visits the country just as much as Taiwan and New Zealand. Most people arrive by air travel at and airport. Flights can be blocked cancelled or passengers moved to quarantine when they get off the plane.


New Zealand and Taiwan still accept visitors under certain conditions. The first big condition is that they must be isolated, quarantined, and tested, for 14 days before being allowed to travel in freely in New Zealand.

 

[percysunshine]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

Most people from other countries travel to the United States the SAME WAY THEY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN AND NEW ZEALAND. Its called AIR TRAVEL. The North American and South American continents are JUST as much and Island as New Zealand and Taiwan when it comes to the travel of the Virus from its original source in Wuhan China.

The United States can control who visits the country just as much as Taiwan and New Zealand. Most people arrive by air travel at and airport. Flights can be blocked cancelled or passengers moved to quarantine when they get off the plane.


New Zealand and Taiwan still accept visitors under certain conditions. The first big condition is that they must be isolated, quarantined, and tested, for 14 days before being allowed to travel in freely in New Zealand.

So what is your opinion on illegal immigrants crossing the US border with Mexico?

 

[U2Edge]

Hawaii has a good plan.

No more tourists...ever.

That's what you do until there is a vaccine to stop it. Only an idiot would allow uncontrolled spread of a pandemic among their population.

 

[U2Edge]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

Most people from other countries travel to the United States the SAME WAY THEY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN AND NEW ZEALAND. Its called AIR TRAVEL. The North American and South American continents are JUST as much and Island as New Zealand and Taiwan when it comes to the travel of the Virus from its original source in Wuhan China.

The United States can control who visits the country just as much as Taiwan and New Zealand. Most people arrive by air travel at and airport. Flights can be blocked cancelled or passengers moved to quarantine when they get off the plane.


New Zealand and Taiwan still accept visitors under certain conditions. The first big condition is that they must be isolated, quarantined, and tested, for 14 days before being allowed to travel in freely in New Zealand.

So what is your opinion on illegal immigrants crossing the US border with Mexico?

During the pandemic, it should be contained. Without the pandemic, its actually an economic benefit to the United States.

 

[percysunshine]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

Most people from other countries travel to the United States the SAME WAY THEY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN AND NEW ZEALAND. Its called AIR TRAVEL. The North American and South American continents are JUST as much and Island as New Zealand and Taiwan when it comes to the travel of the Virus from its original source in Wuhan China.

The United States can control who visits the country just as much as Taiwan and New Zealand. Most people arrive by air travel at and airport. Flights can be blocked cancelled or passengers moved to quarantine when they get off the plane.


New Zealand and Taiwan still accept visitors under certain conditions. The first big condition is that they must be isolated, quarantined, and tested, for 14 days before being allowed to travel in freely in New Zealand.

So what is your opinion on illegal immigrants crossing the US border with Mexico?

During the pandemic, it should be contained. Without the pandemic, its actually an economic benefit to the United States.

How do we know there is going to be a pandemic?

We don’t. There is a logic behind legal immigration which includes health status.

 

[percysunshine]

Hawaii has a good plan.

No more tourists...ever.

That's what you do until there is a vaccine to stop it. Only an idiot would allow uncontrolled spread of a pandemic among their population.

Depends. If building a fortress leads to more deaths...well...we will find out.

 

[U2Edge]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

Most people from other countries travel to the United States the SAME WAY THEY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN AND NEW ZEALAND. Its called AIR TRAVEL. The North American and South American continents are JUST as much and Island as New Zealand and Taiwan when it comes to the travel of the Virus from its original source in Wuhan China.

The United States can control who visits the country just as much as Taiwan and New Zealand. Most people arrive by air travel at and airport. Flights can be blocked cancelled or passengers moved to quarantine when they get off the plane.


New Zealand and Taiwan still accept visitors under certain conditions. The first big condition is that they must be isolated, quarantined, and tested, for 14 days before being allowed to travel in freely in New Zealand.

So what is your opinion on illegal immigrants crossing the US border with Mexico?

During the pandemic, it should be contained. Without the pandemic, its actually an economic benefit to the United States.

How do we know there is going to be a pandemic?

We don’t. There is a logic behind legal immigration which includes health status.

FALSE. The information for a risk for a pandemic was there in early to mid January. Taiwan intelligence detected the problem and the government started a full lockdown of the country on January 20, 2020 BEFORE there was even one confirmed case of the virus in Taiwan. Trump should have done the same thing with the United States within 24 hours of Taiwan's actions back in January. We'd be experiencing the same relative free virus situation like Taiwan and New Zealand if the United States had.

The United States has just as good intelligence as Taiwan and just in case U.S. intelligence missed something, Taiwan shared everything with us that they know, told us what they were doing and WARNED the United States to do the same!

 

[Sun Devil 92]

California is lighting off.

2,300 cases today.

Another blue state.......

A Blue State with plenty of Trumpers and those that think like Trumpers when it comes to the dangers of covid-19 and what should be done about it.

**** off.

 

[U2Edge]

Hawaii has a good plan.

No more tourists...ever.

That's what you do until there is a vaccine to stop it. Only an idiot would allow uncontrolled spread of a pandemic among their population.

Depends. If building a fortress leads to more deaths...well...we will find out.

That's easy to answer.

United States deaths from coronavirus: 118,535

New Zealand deaths from coronavirus: 22

Taiwan deaths from coronavirus: 7

Those numbers above tell you everything you need to know.


Last death in New Zealand from coronavirus was on May 28, 2020
Last death in Taiwan from coronavirus was on May 11, 2020
Last death in the United States was yesterday June 15, 2020 with a total of 425 people dying. We'll know at the end of the day today, June 16, 2020 what the death toll was for Americans on this day.

The difference about what works and what does not could not be more clear given the above data.

 

[U2Edge]

California is lighting off.

2,300 cases today.

Another blue state.......

A Blue State with plenty of Trumpers and those that think like Trumpers when it comes to the dangers of covid-19 and what should be done about it.

**** off.

Sorry, but that's reality. Lockdowns, isolation and restrictions work. Individuals and governments that do the opposite sufferer the results.

 

[percysunshine]

Everyone is going to get it.

Do you want it now, or do you want it later?

Tell that to people in New Zealand and Taiwan.

New Zealand has a population of 5 million people and only had 1,600 cases and 22 deaths. They have now eliminated the virus from all citizens in the country. The only active cases are two British citizens that were allowed to travel to see a dying parent in New Zealand.

Taiwan has a population of 25 million and has only had 443 cases and 7 deaths. Taiwan has only 5 active cases remaining.

These two countries have essentially eliminated the virus with well over 99% of the population of each country never getting infected.

Everyone is going to get it? Taiwan and New Zealand prove that's not the case and if Trump had done what Taiwan and New Zealand did early on, the United States would be in the same position today as those countries. Its just one more failure of the Trump Administration, the worst Presidential Administration in U.S. history.

Their choice. They are islands with some control over visitors. Fortress NZ ...no more tourists...ever.

Most people from other countries travel to the United States the SAME WAY THEY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN AND NEW ZEALAND. Its called AIR TRAVEL. The North American and South American continents are JUST as much and Island as New Zealand and Taiwan when it comes to the travel of the Virus from its original source in Wuhan China.

The United States can control who visits the country just as much as Taiwan and New Zealand. Most people arrive by air travel at and airport. Flights can be blocked cancelled or passengers moved to quarantine when they get off the plane.


New Zealand and Taiwan still accept visitors under certain conditions. The first big condition is that they must be isolated, quarantined, and tested, for 14 days before being allowed to travel in freely in New Zealand.

So what is your opinion on illegal immigrants crossing the US border with Mexico?

During the pandemic, it should be contained. Without the pandemic, its actually an economic benefit to the United States.

How do we know there is going to be a pandemic?

We don’t. There is a logic behind legal immigration which includes health status.

FALSE. The information for a risk for a pandemic was there in early to mid January. Taiwan intelligence detected the problem and the government started a full lockdown of the country on January 20, 2020 BEFORE there was even one confirmed case of the virus in Taiwan. Trump should have done the same thing with the United States within 24 hours of Taiwan's actions back in January. We'd be experiencing the same relative free virus situation like Taiwan and New Zealand if the United States had.

The United States has just as good intelligence as Taiwan and just in case U.S. intelligence missed something, Taiwan shared everything with us that they know, told us what they were doing and WARNED the United States to do the same!

Deflections are for amateurs.