Official Coronavirus Thread - Up to the minute Coronavirus map and count.

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nobody is highlighting that new info as it is counter to the shutdown agenda

No it isn't, as those 900 are all human beings. Trump really has turned your brain to tapioca.

 

[WEATHER53]

And were we able to pry out of them the long withheld stat that of those 1.104 that 75-100 were Corona Only and the rest had severe illnesses that would very very likely kill them anyway in the next 1-30 days

That is, of course, a shameless lie that you just made up.

This is what Trump has done to his cultists' brains.

It’s been revealed in several non disputed graphs that the percentage of deaths that are “Corona only” is way under 10%. Not going to run them down for you, my statement stands as issued, you are a panic poodle so bring up several charts that dispute that “ Corona only” is a larger percentage or gross.

And the rest were triggered by the virus.

That’s such a pro panic assumption that it barely deserves addressing but people who have had cancer or heart attacks or strokes and are in a downward spiral where death is imminent and then they contract corona and have another heart attack two days later and die are in no way shape or form a Corona death and it’s cooking the books to suggest so and it’s wholly unknown to state the Corona pushes them over the edge.

 

[Flopper]

And were we able to pry out of them the long withheld stat that of those 1.104 that 75-100 were Corona Only and the rest had severe illnesses that would very very likely kill them anyway in the next 1-30 days

That is, of course, a shameless lie that you just made up.

This is what Trump has done to his cultists' brains.

It’s been revealed in several non disputed graphs that the percentage of deaths that are “Corona only” is way under 10%. Not going to run them down for you, my statement stands as issued, you are a panic poodle so bring up several charts that dispute that “ Corona only” is a larger percentage or gross.

The same can be said for most serious respiratory viruses and many other diseases. People usually die do to various organ failures which are most likely in people with prexisting conditions or compromised immune systems.

 

[excalibur]

1,104 deaths and 26,000 new cases so far. Still seeing a lot of deaths and new cases.

But it looks like numbers are slowing down in Italy, Spain, and France.

And were we able to pry out of them the long withheld stat that of those 1.104 that 75-100 were Corona Only and the rest had severe illnesses that would very very likely kill them anyway in the next 1-30 days and Corona latched on to them a few days earlier?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

 

[Flopper]

People are getting well in droves but we still need testing to drag this out and assure our eyes don’t deceive us.
Lib 101

Trump speaks and in 24 hours people are getting well in droves. It's a miracle. Cancel the orders for ventilators and masks. We have a cure.

 

[Flopper]

1,104 deaths and 26,000 new cases so far. Still seeing a lot of deaths and new cases.

But it looks like numbers are slowing down in Italy, Spain, and France.

And were we able to pry out of them the long withheld stat that of those 1.104 that 75-100 were Corona Only and the rest had severe illnesses that would very very likely kill them anyway in the next 1-30 days and Corona latched on to them a few days earlier?

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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

This is in accordance with the CD instructions for competing a death certificate. It hasn't changed in at least 15 years. Both the underlying cause of death (Covid 19) and the immediate cause of death are both listed. Also contributing factors such as Asthma, COPD, Diabetus, Smoking,. etc.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/blue_form.pdf

 

[g5000]

Today's count.

Total U.S. cases: 366,614

Total U.S. deaths: 10,783

About 1100 deaths in the past 24 hours.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

New woodpile
Read it tards lots of stuff

Alerts on supply chain problems one coming from walmart


Have you wondered what a collapse would really look like? Look around. The long predicted disaster is upon us. We're rafting a waterfall into what looks to be the deepest depression in history.

Nasty epidemics are a natural thing. Turning the country into East Germany circa 1960 isn't. "Non-essential" businesses have been ordered to shut their doors and face ruin, the population is under house arrest and the job market has collapsed into a smoldering heap. Almost ten million people became unemployed in only two weeks, an off-the-chart record.

St. Louis Fed economist Miguel Faria-e-Castro, projected that unemployment could hit 32 percent in the second quarter as more than 47 million workers are laid off as a result of the pandemic, which has forced swaths of the economy to shut down. That would exceed the 24.9 percent peak during the Great Depression.

No need to get fancy about this: supply is all that matters in the end. Bailouts and stimulus packages and such do not make toilet paper, or milk, or anything else for that matter; people do. Until people return to work and production ramps back up, many things will be in short supply...

Food bank pantries are seeing demand at least double or triple just when donations from retailers are disappearing. Interest in bugout real estate is so intense some rural areas are seriously considering denying entry to visitors and "non-resident property owners" . In Pennsylvania, one woman was arrested and fined for taking a "nonessential drive" . Urban businesses are boarding up their storefronts in expectation of "civil unrest" , meaning looting and arson by the entitled but perpetually insatiable.
If civil order breaks down America may become all but ungovernable, even under martial law . President Trump recently signed an executive order authorizing a call up of one million National Guard and reservists. The official reason is heartwarming and reassuring, the real reason is not.

There’s no mystery why President Trump has called up a million military reservists, and no assurance they will be able to prevent sporadic riots from deteriorating into total chaos and pandemonium. No mystery, either, why sales of firearms and ammo have jumped.

Civic life and the economy are in a stark, staring, terror-stricken panic. The details are fascinating but unhelpful. "What's next" is the question that matters. We know this is just the beginning, the lowery sky and chill wind before the storm. The gloomy preppers had it right. Now we'll see if the doomer preppers have it right as well.
All preppers learn from the past and present to prepare for the future. Stockpiling alone is not prepping. Committed preppers have mastered food gardening and dehydration and home canning, they've trained and equipped for medical care beyond first aid, they're well practiced with firearms and preparing game, experienced in woodcraft, can do credible carpentry with only hand tools, and so forth.
But opportunities are closing as an effect of the lockdown. One vivid example: garden supplies, including seeds, have been declared non-essential and can no longer be sold by Walmart and Target in Vermont .

Beyond prepping comes self-sufficiency. This means an off-grid homestead. It's a hard and austere life of relentless but rewarding labor, a step too far for most. Some form tiny communities with members selected for critical expertise. After self-sufficiency comes survivalism, a set of skills and practices to endure or outlast extreme events in hostile environments, long term, using minimal kit and as-found resources. This is too demanding for all but the hardiest among us.

Which you choose depends on what you believe is next. But have a care, what comes next may make the choice for you. It's best to be decently prepared on all fronts.

For my part it's as it's always been, continuous tweaking. If it comes to hoofing it, I've upgraded my bugout bag from three day capability to four without adding much weight. Next up is improving my water pre-filter kit. What I have on hand is good enough, this is a convenience thing. I use coffee filters, they're good for removing gunk down to ten or fifteen microns, which relieves the purification filter of the additional loading and delays clogging.

Too much? Not enough? As I said, events will make the call.

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Peanut butter is one of the best, if not the best, source of vegetable protein, vitamins, minerals and most importantly, calories from fat, about half by weight. The ingredients for true peanut butter are: roasted peanuts. Usually salted. When I lived in Philadelphia there was a place in the Reading Market that sold peanuts and would mill them for you.

Commercial true peanut butter in jars will keep for years. Perhaps the best known is Smuckers. Be aware, makers of peanut butter also labeled "Natural" have replaced the peanut oil with palm oil or another emulsifier, with added sugar or molasses or both. It's a fair substitute for true peanut butter, useful for short term prepping, and there's no stirring needed if that's important to you. But it goes rancid sooner, which defeats a major advantage.

Peanut butter on saltines is a credible survival food even though the crackers are only about fourteen calories each. Saltines are little more than hardtack with yeast. The "ine" in saltines comes from the alkaline soda added to counteract the acidity of the yeast. "Butter crackers", Ritz for one, are sixteen calories each.
The last time I went grocery shopping, which may literally be the last time for a long while, peanut butter was limited to two jars per customer. People are catching on.

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Is it just me or does Anthony Fauci, director of NIAID, remind you of Joe Biden? What he said last month he contradicts this month. And what he says this month he'll contradict next month. The tell is his impeccable credentials, never a good sign.

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Organic Prepper warns of a coming food shortage and the violence it may lead to. An excerpt:

Distribution systems are breaking down.
A source at a Walmart Superstore recently confided that the trucks were only delivering a fraction of the items needed to restock shelves. Imports aren’t arriving in California ports, at least not anywhere close to the degree they were before.
... The people who suspect you may have food will show up at your door one of these days when they run out of food. First, they’ll come asking for it. Then they’ll come demanding it. And not just from you but also from local businesses. The ensuing theft and violence will lead to harsher crackdowns from law enforcement and vigilante justices as people stand up to defend their homes and businesses.

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Zero Hedge has the numbers for the panic buying of firearms.

"The jump has no precedent in recorded history..." is how one analyst described the stunning surge in estimated firearm sales ...
While actual gun purchases aren’t tracked in the U.S., the FBI system is largely considered a proxy for sales by the firearms industry and the table shows a 41% surge year-over-year (and a 33% spike month-over-month).

... Jurgen Brauer, chief economist at Small Arms Analytics, told Bloomberg News, that handgun sales increased 91.1% year-over-year, per Brauer’s analysis, and long-gun sales were up 73.6%

Woodpile Report

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Gabber gabbing

What some of us out there have been sayin ...especially after the Italians discovered blood donors were showing up giving blood and had kung flu antibodies present but no more lung flu ....most didnt even know they had it
What caught my attention here
Heat may not kill this thing

 

[jc456]

And were we able to pry out of them the long withheld stat that of those 1.104 that 75-100 were Corona Only and the rest had severe illnesses that would very very likely kill them anyway in the next 1-30 days

That is, of course, a shameless lie that you just made up.

This is what Trump has done to his cultists' brains.

Shameless? Hahaha hahaha son you’re possessed

 

[excalibur]

Detroit rep says hydroxychloroquine, Trump helped save her life amid COVID-19 fight

Rep. Karen Whitsett, D-Detroit, said she does not believe she would have been given the drug if President Trump had not touted it.

www.freep.com

 

[excalibur]

1,104 deaths and 26,000 new cases so far. Still seeing a lot of deaths and new cases.

But it looks like numbers are slowing down in Italy, Spain, and France.

And were we able to pry out of them the long withheld stat that of those 1.104 that 75-100 were Corona Only and the rest had severe illnesses that would very very likely kill them anyway in the next 1-30 days and Corona latched on to them a few days earlier?

View attachment 320043

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

This is in accordance with the CD instructions for competing a death certificate. It hasn't changed in at least 15 years. Both the underlying cause of death (Covid 19) and the immediate cause of death are both listed. Also contributing factors such as Asthma, COPD, Diabetus, Smoking,. etc.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/blue_form.pdf

That isn't what the guidance says in reality.

It says: "... or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death."

Assumed and contributed and still listed as death from COVID-19. And no proof needed.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Today's count.

Total U.S. cases: 366,614

Total U.S. deaths: 10,783

About 1100 deaths in the past 24 hours.

New York + New Jersey + Michigan = 800.

What the hell is going on with those morons in the Big Apple. Maybe it should be called the Big Corona.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

People are getting well in droves but we still need testing to drag this out and assure our eyes don’t deceive us.
Lib 101

Trump speaks and in 24 hours people are getting well in droves. It's a miracle. Cancel the orders for ventilators and masks. We have a cure.

What do you mean getting well in droves.

I sure don't see New York getting any better.

30,000 new cases in the U.S. Still less than a 10% increase.

And Spain and Italy showing the same thing.

It is looking better for them (and has for a while).

 

[Sun Devil 92]

This is Spain's cases. The curve inflected some time ago and continues to look good.

 

[WEATHER53]

Today's count.

Total U.S. cases: 366,614

Total U.S. deaths: 10,783

About 1100 deaths in the past 24 hours.

New York + New Jersey + Michigan = 800.

What the hell is going on with those morons in the Big Apple. Maybe it should be called the Big Corona.

Crowed subways, crowded streets, crowded places to drink and eat. Not really distanced from people in NYC. I can walk to the street in DC suburbs at 12 noon and encounter no one. That’s rarely true in NYC. There’s your sample for when people are blowing it all over the place in close quarters; what percentage of exposees get infected?

 

[james bond]

Finally, some change in the free testing in California. If you are showing mild signs of COVID-19, then come on down. Before, if you had any signs of COVID-19, then call your doctor, don't call us. At this pace, the doctors and emergency medical staff must be starting to get overwhelmed. It will take two weeks to set up hospital beds and equipment at a former sports arena. The logistics are taking too long.

 

[otto105]

Coronavirus Compensation? Assessing China’s Potential Culpability and Avenues of Legal Response
5th April 2020
By Matthew Henderson, Dr Alan Mendoza, Dr Andrew Foxall, James Rogers, and Sam Armstrong



Global lawsuits against China for “patent breaches” of the International Health Regulations over its handling of COVID-19 could run to at least £3.2 trillion from just the nations of the G7, according to a newly released report.
The report claims that the Chinese government’s early handling of the disease and failure to adequately report information to the WHO breached Articles Six and Seven of the International Health Regulations [IHRs], a Treaty to which China is a signatory and legally obliged to uphold. These breaches allowed the outbreak to rapidly spread outside Wuhan, its place of origin.
In particular, our research has discovered that the Chinese government:

• Failed to disclose data that would have revealed evidence of human-to-human transmission for a period of up to three weeks from being aware of it, in breach of Articles six and seven of the IHRs.
• Provided the WHO with erroneous information about the number of infections between 2 January 2020 and 11 January 2020, in breach of Articles Six and Seven of the IHRs.
• Failed to proscribe avoidable vectors of lethal zoonotic (animal-originated) viral infection, instead actively promoting the massive proliferation of dangerous viral host species for human consumption in breach of Article 12 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights.
• Allowed 5 million people (roughly equivalent to the size of The San Francisco Metropolitan Area, CA or Greater Boston, MA in the USA, and roughly five times the size of a city the size of Birmingham, UK) to leave Wuhan before imposing the lockdown on 23 January 2020 despite knowledge of human-to-human transmission.

The minutes of the UK’s scientific advisory group on new and emerging viral threats record how the lack of information delayed the response to the virus including the lack of travel screening, according to an outline in the report. A University of Southampton study has previously found that — should strict quarantine measures have been introduced three weeks earlier — the disease’s spread would have been reduced by some 95%.
As a result of the breaches of international law, the report assesses that potential damages liable against China at the time of writing could run to £3.2 ($4) trillion from just the G7 nations. The UK is said to have a claim worth a potential £351 billion ($449 billion) in damages based on formally announced government spending. Using the same methodology, the US meanwhile could claim £933.3 billion ($1,200 billion), Canada £47.9 billion ($59 billion), and Australia £29.9 billion ($37 billion). The report utilises formally announced spending as of 5th April 2020, rather than total projected spending over the entire duration of the crisis – which is expected to be far greater – as the latter figure will not be known for several months.
Acknowledging the difficulties in securing international justice, the report offers ten different potential legal avenues for action against China across domestic and international jurisdictional venues. While many of these enforce treaties other than IHRs, the report argues that public international lawyers might — as has previously been done — make use of relevant clauses in order to uphold international norms. The Henry Jackson Society’s recommendations include making use of the International Court of Justice; Permanent Court of Arbitration; Hong Kong Courts; dispute resolutions through Bilateral Investment Treaties; and actions at the WTO.

Read the report:

Compensation for Coronavirus?

A case for compensation from China for its failures to uphold international law in its response to the Coronavirus outbreak.

henryjacksonsociety.org

The Chinese PM Xi just shot the Henry Jackson Society potential lawsuit down by stating that, "the call was perfect"....case closed.

 

[otto105]

Gabber gabbing

What some of us out there have been sayin ...especially after the Italians discovered blood donors were showing up giving blood and had kung flu antibodies present but no more lung flu ....most didnt even know they had it
What caught my attention here
Heat may not kill this thing
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Whats this aboout the kung flu?

Are you just trying to scream I'm a white guy who votes for trump because "they took our white privilege" bullshit.

 

[james bond]

Shameless? Hahaha hahaha son you’re possessed

I have to admit I can see your attitude towards COVID-19 now. The response for testing has been so slow that who is going to care about it? It was suppose to be the front line of defense. If you come down with the symptoms, then you're going to call your doctor. If you have trouble breathing, then you're going to call 911. Else you just wait and stay home. Who cares about the friggin' testing? It's too late practically.