Ocean current reversal

[theHawk]

Let's see. It has to get cold to snow. And CO2 increases the temperature of the atmosphere. So yes, it is the CO2. All the scientists state that the CO2 is increasing ocean and atmospheric temperatures, but a dumb **** on the internet claims that it is not. Oh, who to believe? LOL And the same dumb ***** making this statement also say that there is a conspiracy among all the millions of scientists in the world to try to fool them. LOL

Funny you can’t address post #31.

Your “study” is a total fraud with zero evidence.

 

[EMH]

And CO2 increases the temperature of the atmosphere

We have two and only two measures of atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons, and both showed NO WARMING in highly correlated fashion for 3+ decades of rising CO2. Then your side FUDGED the data in 2005....

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

CO2 does NOTHING...according to the actual data. Your side has no actual data that CO2 causes warming, NONE.






If oceans were warming, there would be an upwards breakout in cane activity. There isn't...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

 

[Sunsettommy]

Here you go;

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Flooding in the United States 101: Causes, Trends, and Impacts

This explainer details the causes, trends, and impacts of flooding in the United States.

www.rff.org

I have posted the official flood and drought data that doesn't support your position at all which you always ignore because you KNOW you can't disprove it.

USA

No trend is visible.

Europe

No trend is visible.

And this you always ignore because you are deluded, showing it greatly improved over time.

LINK

 

[Sunsettommy]

Here you go;

View attachment 1135160

Flooding in the United States 101: Causes, Trends, and Impacts

This explainer details the causes, trends, and impacts of flooding in the United States.

www.rff.org

You ignored my Drought/flood trend and Red Flag warnings to add your deflection about cost of damage which your article is misleading while there are plenty of other published studies showing the very opposite as these charts shows,

They ALL show a significant decline.

Already showed you several times that there are NO increase in hurricanes or level of storminess and decrease in major tornadoes over recent decades which you ignore over and over because you KNOW you can't address them.

LINK

 

[ReinyDays]

LOL



If you have ever rolled a canoe, you have an example of a tipping point. Where the change is to a different state. Much harder to right a climatic tipping point than a canoe. For instance when a previously forest that was a sink for CO2 becomes an emitter. Same for permafrost. However one of the kickers of tipping points is that many will, or have already happened, without visible effects until a few years down the road. But it does not matter, it is only your children that will have to deal with that, so WTF.

So you don't know what a tipping point is ...

Here we go again ... sheesh ... how does deforestation cause more carbon dioxide? ... c'mon, details ... where does the energy come from, what forces are pushing the energy into the atmosphere and what's keeping it there? ...

All you offer is cartoons ... start with SB ... you know ... actual science ... do you understand cyclogenesis? ..

 

[mamooth]

Science uses observation to prove claims or theories. They did not observe any deaths.

Wait, are you actually claiming the 60,000 excess heat deaths never happened? You've gone totally off the rails.

They merely claimed there would be more and then also attributed those “excess deaths” which never happened to climate change with zero details on any deaths.

No, they looked at the mortality database. You know, the hard data.

Admit it. You didn't even look at the study. You're just making crazy stuff up, based purely on your politics.

Your whole collective are biology-deniers who can’t even acknowledge there are only two genders.

"DERP! DERP! DERP! YOU THINK MEN CAN HAVE BABIES! DERRRRRRRRP!"

That's the cry of the cultist who doesn't understand the basics of gender and biology, one that they use to deflect each time it's demonstrated how goddamned stupid about science they are. Hey, they have to deflect somehow. It's not like they can talk about facts.

You can’t even acknowledge that an unborn baby is human life.

"You don't share in my bizarre religious beliefs, therefore you don't know science" is really dumb logic.

Your side came up with global freezing, then had to change to global warming, then when the science proved that wrong, had to rebrand it “climate change” which means nothing since our planet’s climate has always been changing.

Pretty much every word you typed there was wrong. Alas, due to how thorough your brainwashing is, you won't be able to understand that. Your cult programming is not reversible, and least not by things like facts, data, logic and morality.

 

[mamooth]

You ignored my Drought/flood trend

Because they're really stupid, as is all of your porpaganda. A single torrential event won't show up as a wet year. This is basic stuff, and you always flub it.

Same with disaster losses. You pretend better mitigation isn't a thing. Wildly dishonest of you, especially since it's been pointed out to you before.

Already showed you several times that there are NO increase in hurricanes

There aren't more hurricanes, but they are stronger, just as AGW theory predicted.

or level of storminess and decrease in major tornadoes over recent decades which you ignore over and over because you KNOW you can't address them.

We have addressed it. We've often pointed out AGW theory never predicted more tornadoes. You know that, yet you continue to pretend the opposite. That is, you continue to lie.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Because they're really stupid, as is all of your porpaganda. A single torrential event won't show up as a wet year. This is basic stuff, and you always flub it.

Same with disaster losses. You pretend better mitigation isn't a thing. Wildly dishonest of you, especially since it's been pointed out to you before.


There aren't more hurricanes, but they are stronger, just as AGW theory predicted.


We have addressed it. We've often pointed out AGW theory never predicted more tornadoes. You know that, yet you continue to pretend the opposite. That is, you continue to lie.

I posted hard evidence that there are NO increase in Major Hurricanes and NO increase in total storminess, you offer unsupported claims all the time that I think are just LIES since I have corrected you many times already, once again from the National Hurricane Center (NOAA), JMA, BOM, CMA

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Storminess has not gone up, and there’s been no increase in hurricane strength or frequency … no “emergency” there.

First, the strength.

And here is the global hurricane frequency, both for all hurricanes and for the strongest hurricanes.

Hurricane Data Source

The 12 months from April 2021 to May 2022 have seen close to the fewest major hurricanes in more than 40 years.

And there is much longer evidence to back that up. Here are the records of all hurricanes (left) and major hurricanes (right) that came ashore in the US in the last 150 years … NO increase. SOURCE: Nature magazine.

And here are the numbers of Pacific typhoons (hurricanes) from the Japanese Meteorological Agency.

Here are landfalling typhoons (hurricanes) in China. Like the majority of the world areas, we’re seeing fewer landfalls in China.

And here are a century and a half of records of the number of landfalling hurricanes in Florida.

Finally, here are the declining numbers of both strong and average cyclones (Southern Hemisphere hurricanes) in Australian waters, from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM).

LINK

You have been Thoroughly refuted again!

Don't you tire of being corrected again.......

 

[Sunsettommy]

Mamooth the failed debater who didn't refute anything that I had posted FACTUALLY he is just a blowhard spewing a pile of words.

Because they're really stupid, as is all of your porpaganda. A single torrential event won't show up as a wet year. This is basic stuff, and you always flub it.

Same with disaster losses. You pretend better mitigation isn't a thing. Wildly dishonest of you, especially since it's been pointed out to you before.

What I posted are published research and from the NOAA and the Palmer Drought Index, you are full of baloney since you insulted them, I was only conveying PUBLISHED information, you convey sewage in return.

Here is the post mamooth didn't challenge factually.

POST #44 LINK for property losses

Post #34 LINK Is my statement about Red Flag warning are normally applied every year in the NW which I know up front since I live in Southern Washington state.

Then the fact filled charts refuting Old Rocks claims with his misleading article didn't support his claim anyway, you didn't refute it either.

POST # 43 LINK

You scored ZERO since you didn't make a case on anything just your usual bile and bullshit you learned in your smelly basement.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Mamooth writes this flame bait since I didn't claim the IPCC predicted increase in Tornadoes in any form, all I did was to show the DECREASING trend while many warmest/alarmists go on and on about increasing extreme weather...., which the IPCC does predict and have been wrong on it for years now.

We have addressed it. We've often pointed out AGW theory never predicted more tornadoes. You know that, yet you continue to pretend the opposite. That is, you continue to lie.

This is what the dishonest fool responded to I made at Post # 44:

Already showed you several times that there are NO increase in hurricanes or level of storminess and decrease in major tornadoes over recent decades which you ignore over and over because you KNOW you can't address them.

No mention of the IPPC or their supposed predictions, I am reacting to climate cultists like you who commonly babble about INCREASED storminess that is why I post the Hurricane and Tornado data showing NO upward trend whatsoever thus you got nothing viable to support your delusions.

You are pathetic

 

[theHawk]

Wait, are you actually claiming the 60,000 excess heat deaths never happened? You've gone totally off the rails.


No, they looked at the mortality database. You know, the hard data.

Admit it. You didn't even look at the study. You're just making crazy stuff up, based purely on your politics.


"DERP! DERP! DERP! YOU THINK MEN CAN HAVE BABIES! DERRRRRRRRP!"

That's the cry of the cultist who doesn't understand the basics of gender and biology, one that they use to deflect each time it's demonstrated how goddamned stupid about science they are. Hey, they have to deflect somehow. It's not like they can talk about facts.



"You don't share in my bizarre religious beliefs, therefore you don't know science" is really dumb logic.



Pretty much every word you typed there was wrong. Alas, due to how thorough your brainwashing is, you won't be able to understand that. Your cult programming is not reversible, and least not by things like facts, data, logic and morality.

^^ Sperg out.

I literally posted the actual study that was referenced in the OP story. I did read it. YOU nor the OP read it.

I didn’t bring up any religious beliefs. It’s a scientific fact that a human fetus is a human, and is alive. Thus violently killing it is killing a human being. That’s an undeniable scientific fact, regardless of your religious beliefs.

There are rest of your rant is gibberish slurs and attacks. You have no argument.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Stop worrying.
NATURE will cause our Sun to balloon to thousands of times it's current size and incinerate Earth to a crispy chard rock soon enough.

This small chit isn't worth the time of day and neither will happen until you're LONG gone.
I suggest you try to find something to be happy about.

 

[EMH]

soon enough

= 5 billion years from now


Why is the definition of SOON so hard to comprehend???

Google Search

www.google.com

 

[ReinyDays]

= 5 billion years from now


Why is the definition of SOON so hard to comprehend???

Google Search

www.google.com

Well ... the Sun isn't expected to be completely dead for another one or two trillion years ... a few billion here and there are negligible ...

God bless electron degenerate matter ...

 

[ding]

An ocean current in the South Atlantic reversed for a while for the first time. This could affect the carbon cycle, and create a situation where a portion of the ocean is no longer a carbon sink, but an emitter. Again like portions of the Arctic no longer being a sink but an emitter, we are seeing the beginning of a major tipping point.

MSN

Ocean currents are what drive the climate of the planet.

 

[mamooth]

I literally posted the actual study that was referenced in the OP story. I did read it. YOU nor the OP read it.

So you're saying you lied about the study deliberately?

I suppose being busted as a liar does earn you big brownie points in your cult, so you did accomplish that.

 

[mamooth]

I posted hard evidence that there are NO increase in Major Hurricanes

No, you didn't. You keep failing so hard at the basic logic. If there are fewer but bigger hurricanes, the total energy (ACE) is about the same. And landfalling cat-5 hurricanes is a shit-awful metric, given how random that is.

We know that the fewer hurricanes are getting stronger, because the data says so. This study talks about the actual data, so you'll refuse to look at it. After all, the cult orders you to keep your mind free from the corrupting influence of reality.

Radware Bot Manager Captcha

iopscience.iop.org

So, AGW science is proven right, again. Yawn. That's so common, it's boring.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Now take the pretty pills the nice nurse has for you, and go back to your room with the soft walls.

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Left cult troll their own threads.





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[Sunsettommy]

No, you didn't. You keep failing so hard at the basic logic. If there are fewer but bigger hurricanes, the total energy (ACE) is about the same. And landfalling cat-5 hurricanes is a shit-awful metric, given how random that is.

We know that the fewer hurricanes are getting stronger, because the data says so. This study talks about the actual data, so you'll refuse to look at it. After all, the cult orders you to keep your mind free from the corrupting influence of reality.

Radware Bot Manager Captcha

iopscience.iop.org

So, AGW science is proven right, again. Yawn. That's so common, it's boring.

Now you are simply LYING as the ACE numbers covered both frequency and duration of storms, here once again the two charts that destroys your lie:

Storminess has not gone up, and there’s been no increase in hurricane strength or frequency … no “emergency” there.

First, the strength.

And here is the global hurricane frequency, both for all hurricanes and for the strongest hurricanes.

Hurricane Data Source


From Wikipedia LINK is the explanation of the ACE index:

Accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) is a metric used to compare overall activity of tropical cyclones, utilizing the available records of windspeeds at six-hour intervals to synthesize storm duration and strength into a single index value.

The ACE index may refer to a single storm or to groups of storms such as those within a particular month, a full season or combined seasons.

It is calculated by summing the square of tropical cyclones' maximum sustained winds, as recorded every six hours, but only for windspeeds of at least tropical storm strength (≥ 34 kn; 63 km/h; 39 mph); the resulting figure is divided by 10,000 to place it on a more manageable scale.

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1933	20	11	6	258.57
2005	28	15	7	245.3
1893	12	10	5	231.15
1926	11	8	6	229.56
1995	19	11	5	227.10
2004	15	9	6	226.88
2017	17	10	6	224.88
1950	16	11	6	211.28
1961	12	8	5	188.9
1998	14	10	3	181.76

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[Sunsettommy]

What is hilarious that this mamooth does NOT seem aware that this tropical season is off to a very slow start well below average in all regions of the Northern Hemisphere, a little above average in the Southern Hemisphere.

LINK