Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[jillian]

Maybe it's because of the way you presented the issue.

How did I present it? I stated that obesity is not beautiful. Now, do you want to focus on the facts, or are you going to keep whining about MY opinion on fat people. I don't think fat is attractive. That is my opinion. Deal with it.

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

 

[Coyote]

ChrisL:" Obesity is NOT beautiful!", "people try to make it sound as if obesity is some kind of "fashion statement."

From your title and OP.

Yup. got a problem with that? Obesity should never be a fashion statement. It is just unhealthy and unattractive.

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

The facts are that skinny people are not costing us billions of dollars in related health care costs at this time in America. If that happens, I will start a thread about it. Okay?

Ah..ok...so no stigma on skinny people then?

That is not what this thread is about. It is about obesity. DO you have something to add to the topic?

Can't answer a simple question?

 

[Coyote]

Sorry that you all are such angry people and have such a difficult time accepting my opinions. Not really my problem though. I'm just a person here posting like anyone else. In fact, I would say there are MUCH more controversial people posting much more controversial things than that they think fat people are not attractive, amirite? Lol.

No one's angry.

 

[Esmeralda]

Now, back to the point of the thread, do you agree that people who are overweight should just accept that is their body type and continue to live that way or should they exercise and try to get into shape? Is trying to make fat fashionable a good idea? It's certainly a "PC" idea.

Depends on who is calling them overweight. Who defines whats overweight?

Actually, I think that is done pretty well by the medical community. Pear shaped people, with large rears and thighs, are less susceptible to medical issues, but obese people, especially morbidly obese people will develop medical problems as they age: diabetes, heart disease, joint problems, arthritis, back problems, etc. Those are the facts based on what we have seen historically.

Fat is not a simple PC problem: it is a medical problem.

 

[ChrisL]

Sorry that you all are such angry people and have such a difficult time accepting my opinions. Not really my problem though. I'm just a person here posting like anyone else. In fact, I would say there are MUCH more controversial people posting much more controversial things than that they think fat people are not attractive, amirite? Lol.

No one's angry.

Well it sure seems like you would rather talk about my opinions on fat people and are extremely bothered by them. I don't care what your opinions are on fat people. You can think they are beautiful. It affects me not at all, and MY opinion doesn't affect you. We aren't dating. Lol.

 

[ChrisL]

How did I present it? I stated that obesity is not beautiful. Now, do you want to focus on the facts, or are you going to keep whining about MY opinion on fat people. I don't think fat is attractive. That is my opinion. Deal with it.

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

 

[ChrisL]

How did I present it? I stated that obesity is not beautiful. Now, do you want to focus on the facts, or are you going to keep whining about MY opinion on fat people. I don't think fat is attractive. That is my opinion. Deal with it.

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Lol. Also, I don't think I'm the one who is butt hurt here. Like I told you. I don't think fat is attractive. That's just how it is and how it will remain. If you don't like it, too bad.

 

[Coyote]

Sorry that you all are such angry people and have such a difficult time accepting my opinions. Not really my problem though. I'm just a person here posting like anyone else. In fact, I would say there are MUCH more controversial people posting much more controversial things than that they think fat people are not attractive, amirite? Lol.

No one's angry.

Well it sure seems like you would rather talk about my opinions on fat people and are extremely bothered by them. I don't care what your opinions are on fat people. You can think they are beautiful. It affects me not at all, and MY opinion doesn't affect you. We aren't dating. Lol.

Discussing your opinions is not "anger" - it's discussion - you aren't that important. This is a messageboard and if you post your opinions, expect to have them challanged.

 

[ChrisL]

Yup. got a problem with that? Obesity should never be a fashion statement. It is just unhealthy and unattractive.

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

The facts are that skinny people are not costing us billions of dollars in related health care costs at this time in America. If that happens, I will start a thread about it. Okay?

Ah..ok...so no stigma on skinny people then?

That is not what this thread is about. It is about obesity. DO you have something to add to the topic?

Can't answer a simple question?

Nope. If you want to start a thread about skinny people then go ahead. That is not what I wanted to discuss or I would have started a thread about it.

 

[jillian]

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

i think it's fair to say you weren't being honest when you claimed it was about "health".

and the point was that how other people look shouldn't have given rise to a rant like the one in the o/p.

as to who is attractive and who isn't... that's a personal thing.

what i do think is what is unattractive is trying to diminish the self-esteem of others. and i don't see anything constructive in that type of effort.

 

[Alex.]

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

ChrisL:" Obesity is NOT beautiful!", "people try to make it sound as if obesity is some kind of "fashion statement."

From your title and OP.

Yup. got a problem with that? Obesity should never be a fashion statement. It is just unhealthy and unattractive.

It is a fashion statement to some and that is their business. When weight controls a person's life there are other issues that must be dealt with including why weight would be such a prominent issue.

I'm not controlling anyone's life. I started a thread on a forum for discussion purposes.

Please read my post before responding. I never posted you were controlling anything in fact I think the opposite.

 

[ChrisL]

Sorry that you all are such angry people and have such a difficult time accepting my opinions. Not really my problem though. I'm just a person here posting like anyone else. In fact, I would say there are MUCH more controversial people posting much more controversial things than that they think fat people are not attractive, amirite? Lol.

No one's angry.

Well it sure seems like you would rather talk about my opinions on fat people and are extremely bothered by them. I don't care what your opinions are on fat people. You can think they are beautiful. It affects me not at all, and MY opinion doesn't affect you. We aren't dating. Lol.

Discussing your opinions is not "anger" - it's discussion - you aren't that important. This is a messageboard and if you post your opinions, expect to have them challanged.

Right, and you are challenging nothing. My opinion remains that fat is unattractive. And the facts are that it is unhealthy. MORE unhealthy than smoking cigarettes and more expensive.

 

[Coyote]

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

The facts are that skinny people are not costing us billions of dollars in related health care costs at this time in America. If that happens, I will start a thread about it. Okay?

Ah..ok...so no stigma on skinny people then?

That is not what this thread is about. It is about obesity. DO you have something to add to the topic?

Can't answer a simple question?

Nope. If you want to start a thread about skinny people then go ahead. That is not what I wanted to discuss or I would have started a thread about it.

You can't discuss obesity in a vacuum just to avoid uncomfortable questions. Obesity exists in relation to thinness.

 

[skye]

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

The facts are that skinny people are not costing us billions of dollars in related health care costs at this time in America. If that happens, I will start a thread about it. Okay?

Ah..ok...so no stigma on skinny people then?

That is not what this thread is about. It is about obesity. DO you have something to add to the topic?

Can't answer a simple question?

Nope. If you want to start a thread about skinny people then go ahead. That is not what I wanted to discuss or I would have started a thread about it.

awww....tissue?????

 

[ChrisL]

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

i think it's fair to say you weren't being honest when you claimed it was about "health".

and the point was that how other people look shouldn't have given rise to a rant like the one in the o/p.

as to who is attractive and who isn't... that's a personal thing.

what i do think is what is unattractive is trying to diminish the self-esteem of others. and i don't see anything constructive in that type of effort.

Of course it's about health. One in three children is overweight or obese and many children are suffering from obesity related medical conditions at prepubescent ages. That is despicable and rises to the level of a health crisis.

 

[jillian]

Sorry that you all are such angry people and have such a difficult time accepting my opinions. Not really my problem though. I'm just a person here posting like anyone else. In fact, I would say there are MUCH more controversial people posting much more controversial things than that they think fat people are not attractive, amirite? Lol.

No one's angry.

Well it sure seems like you would rather talk about my opinions on fat people and are extremely bothered by them. I don't care what your opinions are on fat people. You can think they are beautiful. It affects me not at all, and MY opinion doesn't affect you. We aren't dating. Lol.

in posting your opinion on a public message board, one would have to expect responses. there is no anger on this thread except from you.

the rest of us are simply responding to what we read. again, if that's a problem for you, you might want to reconsider posting.

 

[ChrisL]

The facts are that skinny people are not costing us billions of dollars in related health care costs at this time in America. If that happens, I will start a thread about it. Okay?

Ah..ok...so no stigma on skinny people then?

That is not what this thread is about. It is about obesity. DO you have something to add to the topic?

Can't answer a simple question?

Nope. If you want to start a thread about skinny people then go ahead. That is not what I wanted to discuss or I would have started a thread about it.

awww....tissue?????

Tissue? Why? Because fat people are unattractive? Nope, I'm not fat. So I'm doing well. My health is A++. *thumbs up*

 

[Coyote]

Sorry that you all are such angry people and have such a difficult time accepting my opinions. Not really my problem though. I'm just a person here posting like anyone else. In fact, I would say there are MUCH more controversial people posting much more controversial things than that they think fat people are not attractive, amirite? Lol.

No one's angry.

Well it sure seems like you would rather talk about my opinions on fat people and are extremely bothered by them. I don't care what your opinions are on fat people. You can think they are beautiful. It affects me not at all, and MY opinion doesn't affect you. We aren't dating. Lol.

Discussing your opinions is not "anger" - it's discussion - you aren't that important. This is a messageboard and if you post your opinions, expect to have them challanged.

Right, and you are challenging nothing. My opinion remains that fat is unattractive. And the facts are that it is unhealthy. MORE unhealthy than smoking cigarettes and more expensive.

And again, the emphasis is on appearance first. I think that tells us where your priorities are - like the title of your op.

 

[ChrisL]

Sorry that you all are such angry people and have such a difficult time accepting my opinions. Not really my problem though. I'm just a person here posting like anyone else. In fact, I would say there are MUCH more controversial people posting much more controversial things than that they think fat people are not attractive, amirite? Lol.

No one's angry.

Well it sure seems like you would rather talk about my opinions on fat people and are extremely bothered by them. I don't care what your opinions are on fat people. You can think they are beautiful. It affects me not at all, and MY opinion doesn't affect you. We aren't dating. Lol.

in posting your opinion on a public message board, one would have to expect responses. there is no anger on this thread except from you.

the rest of us are simply responding to what we read. again, if that's a problem for you, you might want to reconsider posting.

I'm not angry at all. I'm just telling you that you whining is not changing my opinion about fat people. Nor should it. Deal with it.

 

[jillian]

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

i think it's fair to say you weren't being honest when you claimed it was about "health".

and the point was that how other people look shouldn't have given rise to a rant like the one in the o/p.

as to who is attractive and who isn't... that's a personal thing.

what i do think is what is unattractive is trying to diminish the self-esteem of others. and i don't see anything constructive in that type of effort.

Of course it's about health. One in three children is overweight or obese and many children are suffering from obesity related medical conditions at prepubescent ages. That is despicable and rises to the level of a health crisis.

once again, if you were interested in discussions about health, there was a discussion to be had. "obesity is not beautiful" and your being "tired" of hearing that fat people can be attractive isn't it.