Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[sealybobo]

Maybe it's because of the way you presented the issue.

How did I present it? I stated that obesity is not beautiful. Now, do you want to focus on the facts, or are you going to keep whining about MY opinion on fat people. I don't think fat is attractive. That is my opinion. Deal with it.

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

ChrisL:" Obesity is NOT beautiful!", "people try to make it sound as if obesity is some kind of "fashion statement."

From your title and OP.

Yup. got a problem with that? Obesity should never be a fashion statement. It is just unhealthy and unattractive.

If you can't say what you think here, where can you? I'll be honest. I can't stand plus size women. Ive slept with them in the past but we referred to it as pigging. My sister in law and other girls I know always have these really nice single friends with jobs. A guy would be lucky to have any of them. Only they are fat. I don't know if I could stay attracted to someone who got too fat on me. Thck legs I can deal with but from the waste up she's got to be thin not fat. At least not for me.

But funny thing is I see lots of normal looking guys with fat wives. Makes me think women rule the world.

 

[ChrisL]

Nope. If you want to start a thread about skinny people then go ahead. That is not what I wanted to discuss or I would have started a thread about it.

You can't discuss obesity in a vacuum just to avoid uncomfortable questions. Obesity exists in relation to thinness.

Um no. Thin people are not costing billions of dollars in health related expenses. I think you should read some of the links I posted with facts and statistics about obesity and how serious a problem it is for us, and how it is projected to become an even worse problem in the future, as 1 in 3 children are now obese or overweight and many are suffering from obesity-related diseases, which is fucking terrible!

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

They do not cost BILLIONS of dollars. They are not considered a health issue in America today. Those problems are quite RARE actually. What are the statistics of people suffering from anorexia as opposed to those suffering from obesity? Besides, you said "thin" not anorexic. HUMAN BEINGS are supposed to be on the more "thin" side. We are supposed to be active and not have a whole lot of excess body fat.

 

[ChrisL]

How did I present it? I stated that obesity is not beautiful. Now, do you want to focus on the facts, or are you going to keep whining about MY opinion on fat people. I don't think fat is attractive. That is my opinion. Deal with it.

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

ChrisL:" Obesity is NOT beautiful!", "people try to make it sound as if obesity is some kind of "fashion statement."

From your title and OP.

Yup. got a problem with that? Obesity should never be a fashion statement. It is just unhealthy and unattractive.

If you can't say what you think here, where can you? I'll be honest. I can't stand plus size women. Ive slept with them in the past but we referred to it as pigging. My sister in law and other girls I know always have these really nice single friends with jobs. A guy would be lucky to have any of them. Only they are fat. I don't know if I could stay attracted to someone who got too fat on me. Thck legs I can deal with but from the waste up she's got to be thin not fat. At least not for me.

But funny thing is I see lots of normal looking guys with fat wives. Makes me think women rule the world.

Some of those women were thin at one time and gradually gained weight over the years, I'm sure. I know PLENTY of people I went to school with that were thin and had nice bodies in school who are now . . . ginormous.

 

[turtledude]

 

[Esmeralda]

Exactly. It's your opinion. It's how you presented the issue - not emphasizing health, but emphasizing your disgust. If you wanted the conversation to take a different path, you should have presented it differently.

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

If you can criticize, without question, characteristics in others, characteristics you don't like, others can criticize, without question, characteristics in you which they don't like, and it is quite clear in this thread many do not like your observations and perceptions about overweight people; therefore, they are within their rights, according to your own stated options regarding having an opinion, to criticize you. So, deal with it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[turtledude]

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

If you can criticize, without question, characteristics in others, characteristics you don't like, others can criticize, without question, characteristics in you which they don't like, and it is quite clear in this thread many do not like your observations and perceptions about overweight people; therefore, they are within their rights, according to your own stated options regarding having an opinion, to criticize you. So, deal with it.

sensitive you are

Yoda

 

[Coyote]

And again, the emphasis is on appearance first. I think that tells us where your priorities are - like the title of your op.

That's because the title of her article was Fat and Attractive and I was watching her interview this morning. Get it yet or do you want to keep going down this useless path of . . . I don't know what. Do you want to discuss the obesity problem in America or not? Yes or no? If you want to start a thread about me and how you don't like my opinions about fat people or anything else, then you go right ahead and do that, but that is not the topic of this thread, nor was it meant to be. It is about fat people, how they look and feel unattractive and unhealthy and how those things could be changed with a little motivation and hard work.

I think everyone realizes that obesity is a serious medical problem - but attacking people for feeling good about themselves is not the way to address it.

They should not feel good about being obese. Should smokers feel good about smoking? No, they should not. Obesity is more dangerous than smoking.

You're attacking people for their appearance. And telling them they should feel bad about their self-image and body.

If they are obese, they should feel bad. They are lazy unmotivated people who are basically telling us, hey, I'm satisfied with sitting on my lard arse all day eating junk food and I'm not going to make an attempt to become more healthy, and YOU all are going to pay for it. Lol.

These people are NO different from the smokers you all denigrate and say it's a disgusting habit. So is obesity. It is no less disgusting and no less unhealthy than smoking. Period.

Is this a lazy unmotivated person sitting on her lard arse all day?

Father was a coal miner, mother was a housemaid.

What this lazy ummotivated woman accomplished: became America's first African American billionaire

 

[OnePercenter]

Look at Kelley Clarkson. WTF!!!!!

The Woman has more than enough money to hire a private chef to follow her around (the Limbaugh diet plan) but continues to help Hostess on their reemergence.

 

[OnePercenter]

This is the new logic that comes from having so many obese people in society. It's a backlash on natural beauty. Carrying 1/3 BMI is not 'natural'.

I take it you're fat.

 

[ChrisL]

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

If you can criticize, without question, characteristics in others, characteristics you don't like, others can criticize, without question, characteristics in you which they don't like, and it is quite clear in this thread many do not like your observations and perceptions about overweight people; therefore, they are within their rights, according to your own stated options regarding having an opinion, to criticize you. So, deal with it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Whatever, that is not what the thread is about. It is about the phenomenal costs of obesity on society. You get some 25-year-old, otherwise healthy girl who wants to sit around all day and stuff Twinkies and Devil Dogs down her throat and wants everyone to "admire her beauty." Sorry, no.

 

[sealybobo]

I most certainly did emphasize health. That was the MAIN point of my OP. You are the one who is turning it into a battle over my personal opinions on obesity. And you know what? I don't HAVE to think obesity is attractive. I really don't. I am free to have my own opinions and they are what they are. Like them or not.

What is the title of your thread?

Obesity is not beautiful.

and your opinion about that is what your thread is about.

your butthurt over receiving criticism about that is probably silly...

Why should I receive criticism because I don't find fat to be attractive? Why do you feel the need to criticize that? Are you the thought police? Am I not entitled to my own opinions on these matters or do they have to be in sync with your opinions?

If you can criticize, without question, characteristics in others, characteristics you don't like, others can criticize, without question, characteristics in you which they don't like, and it is quite clear in this thread many do not like your observations and perceptions about overweight people; therefore, they are within their rights, according to your own stated options regarding having an opinion, to criticize you. So, deal with it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Yea but let's not be too sensitive. We have a fat problem and it ain't pretty. In Europe or California they all look like chrisl. In Michigan Arkansas and Georgia we got a lot of fat people.

 

[ChrisL]

That's because the title of her article was Fat and Attractive and I was watching her interview this morning. Get it yet or do you want to keep going down this useless path of . . . I don't know what. Do you want to discuss the obesity problem in America or not? Yes or no? If you want to start a thread about me and how you don't like my opinions about fat people or anything else, then you go right ahead and do that, but that is not the topic of this thread, nor was it meant to be. It is about fat people, how they look and feel unattractive and unhealthy and how those things could be changed with a little motivation and hard work.

I think everyone realizes that obesity is a serious medical problem - but attacking people for feeling good about themselves is not the way to address it.

They should not feel good about being obese. Should smokers feel good about smoking? No, they should not. Obesity is more dangerous than smoking.

You're attacking people for their appearance. And telling them they should feel bad about their self-image and body.

If they are obese, they should feel bad. They are lazy unmotivated people who are basically telling us, hey, I'm satisfied with sitting on my lard arse all day eating junk food and I'm not going to make an attempt to become more healthy, and YOU all are going to pay for it. Lol.

These people are NO different from the smokers you all denigrate and say it's a disgusting habit. So is obesity. It is no less disgusting and no less unhealthy than smoking. Period.

Is this a lazy unmotivated person sitting on her lard arse all day?

Father was a coal miner, mother was a housemaid.

What this lazy ummotivated woman accomplished: became America's first African American billionaire

Who the fuck knows? I don't know what the hell Oprah does. Do you? Doesn't change the facts or the statistics.

 

[MarathonMike]

"Fat" is a broad category (sorry). There are lots of people that carry some extra padding and are quite healthy but more importantly they feel good about themselves. I'm talking maybe 15 to 30 lbs extra. The problem I see is most of the really fat people I know including relatives do not feel good about themselves at all. It's more than just the fashion magazines glorifying skinny chicks and guys. It's almost as if these people build a layer around themselves as a way to hide. It's how they see themselves. If a healthy athletic person could switch bodies with an obese person I would bet that within a year the bodies would change to match the person inside.

 

[Programmer]

Nope. If you want to start a thread about skinny people then go ahead. That is not what I wanted to discuss or I would have started a thread about it.

You can't discuss obesity in a vacuum just to avoid uncomfortable questions. Obesity exists in relation to thinness.

Um no. Thin people are not costing billions of dollars in health related expenses. I think you should read some of the links I posted with facts and statistics about obesity and how serious a problem it is for us, and how it is projected to become an even worse problem in the future, as 1 in 3 children are now obese or overweight and many are suffering from obesity-related diseases, which is fucking terrible!

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

 

[Coyote]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

 

[ChrisL]

You can't discuss obesity in a vacuum just to avoid uncomfortable questions. Obesity exists in relation to thinness.

Um no. Thin people are not costing billions of dollars in health related expenses. I think you should read some of the links I posted with facts and statistics about obesity and how serious a problem it is for us, and how it is projected to become an even worse problem in the future, as 1 in 3 children are now obese or overweight and many are suffering from obesity-related diseases, which is fucking terrible!

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

 

[ChrisL]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

This changes nothing. Lol. You are just getting more and more silly with each post.

 

[Coyote]

You can't discuss obesity in a vacuum just to avoid uncomfortable questions. Obesity exists in relation to thinness.

Um no. Thin people are not costing billions of dollars in health related expenses. I think you should read some of the links I posted with facts and statistics about obesity and how serious a problem it is for us, and how it is projected to become an even worse problem in the future, as 1 in 3 children are now obese or overweight and many are suffering from obesity-related diseases, which is fucking terrible!

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

What's interesting though is this. Obesity - serious obesity, often is intertwined with mental health issues and body image problems, in much the same way anorexia and bulimia are - they're labeled eating disorders.

But which gets the stigma and disgust and which gets the pity?

 

[Coyote]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

This changes nothing. Lol. You are just getting more and more silly with each post.

No, I'm just looking for all these fat lazy people who sit on their lard asses all day. How do you suppose Oprah became a billionaire sitting on her lard ass all day?

 

[Coyote]

Um no. Thin people are not costing billions of dollars in health related expenses. I think you should read some of the links I posted with facts and statistics about obesity and how serious a problem it is for us, and how it is projected to become an even worse problem in the future, as 1 in 3 children are now obese or overweight and many are suffering from obesity-related diseases, which is fucking terrible!

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?