Obama's lie verses GWB's non-lie

[JakeStarkey]

mission accomplished?

 

[Freewill]

Did Bush lie?

He had limited support for his Iraq invasion plans. But he had a blank check to fight terrorism. So what could he do?

Start cooking rumors that Saddam had WMDs and would give them to TERRORISTS
The smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud. We must stop them NOW. Time is of the essence

His lies killed 5000 Americans

In his grand plan he enlisted Hillary, Kerry, William Clinton and many other democrat officials. And of course as a true liberal you sully those who VOLUNTEERED to fight for our country while you sat on you ass carping about what they were doing.

At least the objectives were met in Iraq, even though the liberals lie about that also. But Afghanistan? Obama has sent 1690 men to their death in Afghanistan, 19 this year alone. Then admits it was a failure.

Saddam was an ass who needed taken out. He used WMD against his own people. He caused and ecological disaster when he left Kuwait. His sons were rapists at best. He was much more of a threat to US interests then Serbia ever was so don't start with your two faced BS. The ones doing the lying, a plainly shown in this thread are the Bush haters. The truth is you can't help yourself it is in your blood.

 

[Freewill]

mission accomplished?

Yes, all objectives were met at relatively little loss of life. And of course you continue with yet another liberal lie.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

One of the Bush Admin. major mistakes was not hitting back hard at the "Bush lied, people died" charge.

He kept right on telling the same lie long after the truth got out.

Bush lied, hundreds of thousands died.

 

[Freewill]

So as it stands now we have seen the lies of the liberals once again.

1. Although the evidence is otherwise they continue the lie about WMD and what Bush said.
2. They lie about Bush getting our men killed.
3. They lie about the Mission Accomplished banner
4. They post the lie about what was said about the support of terrorists by Saddam

They lie about just about everything

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Obama's lie verses GWB's non-lie

"verses" ?

Bush wasn't singing, you know.

Yes, all objectives were met at relatively little loss of life.

Iraq?

You live in LaLaLand.

Hundreds of thousands of innocent people died, millions were made homeless, maimed forever and an innocent country completely decimated.

That's fact.

 

[kiwiman127]

Two Words; Aluminium Tubes
The IAEA and our own Department of Energy said those tubes weren't the right size/configuration to be part of a nuclear program. But the American people were told the opposite.

 

[JakeStarkey]

mission accomplished?

Yes, all objectives were met at relatively little loss of life. And of course you continue with yet another liberal lie.

Nope, the peace never brought a solid ally in the ME, and the cost in lives and treasure devastated both Iraq and the USA.

Eventually the leading neo-cons will be brought to justice at The Hague.

The neo-cons can't travel in western Europe now.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And if the Bush admin had ever found the WMDs they described they would have shouted it from the roof tops.

Anyone who says different should be prosecuted for propaganda aiding and abetting the enemy.

 

[kiwiman127]

mission accomplished?

Yes, all objectives were met at relatively little loss of life. And of course you continue with yet another liberal lie.

All objectives were met? The US didn't have control of Iraq. The car bombs built from unguarded munitions plants ring a bell? The need for "the surge ring" a bell?
Iranians pouring over the border, helping the Shiite towns set up governments in Eastern Iraq. Iran is Iraq closet ally.
If the US had accomplished their objectives, the war wouldn't of lasted so long, over 4000 of our troops would be alive! Tens of thousands troops wouldn't have been maimed. PTSD would be such a huge problem for returning troops!
Nice try but you failed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The remains that any attack on Iran will result in attacks by Iran and Iraq on American interests.

Bush's war was a failure.

 

[BlindBoo]

It's another Chatty Kathy post.

The Bush administration lied large an long to morph the outrage we all felt on 9-11 into support for the invasion and occupation of Iraq. My favorite tactic was for them to leak a "Story" to the NYT, such as the aluminum tubes that he obtained could only be used for enrichment of uranium, and then justify their position that Saddam had reconstituted his nuclear program on the Sunday talk shows by citing the false story they had leaked.

Whereas the Obama administration always qualified their speculation with the fact that there was an investigation on going that they would look to in the future to determine exactly what happened. SOP for most any administration. But the GOP is desperate to regain power so any lie, as long as it denigrates the Obamas, is acceptable.

 

[BlindBoo]

Signs pointed to the existence of WMDs. Not long ago, some were used and they could likely have been the ones Saddam was hiding. The inspectors had found remnants of chemical labs during their visits. Of course, their visits were announced well in advance and being Saddam was so trustworthy, how could anyone possibly think that he would use the time to remove evidence? If you can't trust an evil dictator, then it's a sad world.

We'll never know what he had because we gave him ample time to clean up areas before the arrival of U.N. inspectors. Even CNN aired a taped conversation where Iraqi officials were talking about getting the trucks loaded and gone before the U.N. inspectors arrived. I'm sure they were just removing garbage and nothing incriminating.

Imagine if police doing drug busts gave suspects a heads up before arriving. I'm sure there would be never be evidence or convictions.

Hogwash, we knew exactly what he had because we helped him get them.

 

[rdean]

128 major failures of the executive branch over the past eight years. The Top 10 list to date:

1. False Premise for Going to War

2. 45 Million Americans Without Health Insurance

3. Controversial Assertion of Executive Power

4. Skyrocketing Deficit

5. Too close to the Edge on Torture

6. Politicization of the Department of Justice

7. No Robust, Sustained Alternative Energy Policy

8. Hurricanes Expose FEMA Woes

9. SEC Allows Investment Banks to Go Unregulated

10. No Child Left Behind: A Few Bumps in the Road

Top 10 failures of the Bush administration | Center for Public Integrity

Among things Bush found disappointing: the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, the failed response to Hurricane Katrina and the fact that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after all.

Bush's Last Press Conference: Full of Disappointment - TIME

I believed Bush when he said there were WMD's and I believed him when he said there weren't any WMD's. But now I believe he was only honest the second time.

 

[Vigilante]

Bush was wrong, there were 550 TONS of yellowcake in Iraq, and they were there all throughout the war UNGUARDED!

U.S. removes 'yellowcake' from Iraq - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - Conflict in Iraq | NBC News

 

[BlindBoo]

Signs pointed to the existence of WMDs. Not long ago, some were used and they could likely have been the ones Saddam was hiding. The inspectors had found remnants of chemical labs during their visits. Of course, their visits were announced well in advance and being Saddam was so trustworthy, how could anyone possibly think that he would use the time to remove evidence? If you can't trust an evil dictator, then it's a sad world.

We'll never know what he had because we gave him ample time to clean up areas before the arrival of U.N. inspectors. Even CNN aired a taped conversation where Iraqi officials were talking about getting the trucks loaded and gone before the U.N. inspectors arrived. I'm sure they were just removing garbage and nothing incriminating.

Imagine if police doing drug busts gave suspects a heads up before arriving. I'm sure there would be never be evidence or convictions.

Are you aware enough to realize that if Saddam actually had WMD's to the degree that the adminstration lied people into believing that he would have had to have had THOUSANDS of people working in those programs?

Where are those people?

Hint, there weren't any. There aren't any. No people, no programs.

The Administration did not lie. The Administration and cleared Congressmen and Senators, including Democrats, read and analyzed the same intelligence reports available to make the decision. Democrats had every opportunity not to back Administration. The majority chose to back him. Only when it became politically expedient did the accusations of lies came out.

For the record, I said then and I say now, the cause of Benghazi was not the result of a Coptic Christian camped out in LA making videos that mock Islam.

Like you they were wrong. The majority of democrats voted against making President Bush the decider of whether or not Iraq posed a significant threat to the worlds only super-power (or was involve in 9-11). It is a fact that is easily verified on this internet machine. I'm pretty sure they knew they were wrong when they said that Saddam was producing and stockpiling huge quantities of chemical and biological weapons. What you knew I don't care....

There is no doubt that radical Islamics go nuts over what we in the west see as really insignificant stuff. Like cartoons insulting their prophet or poorly overdubbed videos insulting their prophet

 

[Vigilante]

Are you aware enough to realize that if Saddam actually had WMD's to the degree that the adminstration lied people into believing that he would have had to have had THOUSANDS of people working in those programs?

Where are those people?

Hint, there weren't any. There aren't any. No people, no programs.

The Administration did not lie. The Administration and cleared Congressmen and Senators, including Democrats, read and analyzed the same intelligence reports available to make the decision. Democrats had every opportunity not to back Administration. The majority chose to back him. Only when it became politically expedient did the accusations of lies came out.

For the record, I said then and I say now, the cause of Benghazi was not the result of a Coptic Christian camped out in LA making videos that mock Islam.

Like you they were wrong. The majority of democrats voted against making President Bush the decider of whether or not Iraq posed a significant threat to the world only super-power (or was involve in 9-11). It is a fact that is easily verified on this internet machine. I'm pretty sure they knew they were wrong when they said that Saddam was producing and stockpiling huge quantities of chemical and biological weapons. What you knew I don't care....

There is no doubt that radical Islamics go nuts over what we in the west see as really insignificant stuff. Like cartoons insulting their prophet or poorly overdubbed videos insulting their prophet

Odd the SENATE vote was 29 TO 21 IN FAVOR OF THE IRAQ RESOLUTION!

 

[rdean]

Bush was wrong, there were 550 TONS of yellowcake in Iraq, and they were there all throughout the war UNGUARDED!

U.S. removes 'yellowcake' from Iraq - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - Conflict in Iraq | NBC News

Finally we agree on something. Bush was wrong.

Yellowcake. The GOP magical word. Like "Yellow Brick Road". Unrefined yellowcake is just dirt. Iran has been refining it for how many years?

Just like with Republicans, religion and science don't mix.

 

[bedowin62]

how IS that whole Bush impeachment and war crimes thingy going leftardz?

 

[rightwinger]

Did Bush lie?

He had limited support for his Iraq invasion plans. But he had a blank check to fight terrorism. So what could he do?

Start cooking rumors that Saddam had WMDs and would give them to TERRORISTS
The smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud. We must stop them NOW. Time is of the essence

His lies killed 5000 Americans

In his grand plan he enlisted Hillary, Kerry, William Clinton and many other democrat officials. And of course as a true liberal you sully those who VOLUNTEERED to fight for our country while you sat on you ass carping about what they were doing.

At least the objectives were met in Iraq, even though the liberals lie about that also. But Afghanistan? Obama has sent 1690 men to their death in Afghanistan, 19 this year alone. Then admits it was a failure.

Saddam was an ass who needed taken out. He used WMD against his own people. He caused and ecological disaster when he left Kuwait. His sons were rapists at best. He was much more of a threat to US interests then Serbia ever was so don't start with your two faced BS. The ones doing the lying, a plainly shown in this thread are the Bush haters. The truth is you can't help yourself it is in your blood.

Bush planned his invasion of Iraq from the day he took office. His problem was he needed a pretext to invade. As soon as 9-11 occurred, Bush asked if it could be tied to Saddam Hussein. When the answer came back no, he needed another way to tie Iraq to his war on terror
America gave Bush a War on Terror Card. Anything Bush claimed was needed to fight terrorism was approved. Homeland Security, Patriot Act, Gitmo...you name it, you got it

So Bush started planting rumors. Iraq, without question had WMDs. They would pass these WMDs on to terrorists and we would pay the price. We didn't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud do we?
We need to invade before it is too late

Most Democrats in Congress had the guts to tell Bush NO!. Some were afraid to be labled "soft on terrorism" so they gave Bush his war

It cost over 5000 Americans their lives