Obama to announce Tuesday he will regulate existing power plants as part of climate s

[daveman]

We MUST do something EVEN though there is NO warming!!!!!

Global warming isn't a big driver for me. I just feel that we need a more modern grid and with a more reliable energy infrastructure. Nuclear, Wind, solar, Wave, Thermal makes a lot of sense.

No more middle east or outside sources that leads to wars.

Quit feeling and start thinking.

If you can.

 

[bripat9643]

Yep. I have seen things like that in WV...its horrible up there right now.

The whale fat heating industry died
The horse mounting industry died
The steam ship and train industries died
The rock and bone tool making industries died

Some things die. Understand? They're replaced with something better.

Something better replaced those industries. Sunlight and unicorn farts are not a better means of generating power.

 

[bripat9643]

Hey, all you dumbshit Obama bootlickers:

Who you gonna blame when your electricity rates skyrocket?

Because you sure as hell won't blame Obama.

Morons.

You can be dead certain that Obama and all his imbecile followers will be blaming evil corporations for high energy prices.

 

[daveman]

He wants to destroy coal! He wants to make it uneconomical so renewables can take over.

Coal provides about half the electrical power in this nation.

I want you to go to the breaker box feeding your house.

Turn off every other breaker.

Then wait for renewables to take over.


Do you see now how stupid this plan is?

 

[bripat9643]

He wants to destroy coal! He wants to make it uneconomical so renewables can take over.

He also wants to destroy natural gas. His regulations will make even gas fired plants illegal.

 

[daveman]

Hey, all you dumbshit Obama bootlickers:

Who you gonna blame when your electricity rates skyrocket?

Because you sure as hell won't blame Obama.

Morons.

You can be dead certain that Obama and all his imbecile followers will be blaming evil corporations for high energy prices.

Of course.

His imbecile followers are just stupid.

Obama? Evil.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nationalizing the power gird

 

[tinydancer]

Whoa geeze. Here comes the high energy bills he promised you. All in the name of climate change.

For the planet. For the children. For the future. Get ready for the talking points that are going to come at you to justify this action.

What really cracks me up about politicians who are all in on this grand scheme to use "climate change" as a way of emptying your pockets into their coffers is that these bloody fools can't fix a pot hole but think they can fix the weather.

What's even more insane is that there is a large segment of the population who actually do believe that Washington, DC can fix the weather.

" Obama to take sweeping action on climate

By Juliet Eilperin, Published: June 22 E-mail the writer

President Obama will announce his intention to limit greenhouse gas emissions from existing power plants, increase appliance efficiency standards and promote renewable energy development on public lands in a speech Tuesday outlining his plan to use executive powers to address climate change.

While the president has talked about the need to address global warming, using sweeping rhetoric in his second inaugural address to suggest it ranks as one of his highest priorities, he has been largely silent on how he intends to tackle the problem.

In the speech at Georgetown University, according to individuals briefed on the matter who asked not to be identified because the plan was not yet public, Obama will detail a government-wide plan to not only reduce the nation’s carbon output but also prepare the United States for the near-term impacts of global warming.
"

Obama to take sweeping action on climate - The Washington Post

 

[Mac1958]

.

Obama is so powerful, in fact, that he'll announce his intent to also control the emissions in China, which is experiencing massive growth, showing little if any interest in global war..., er, climate change, and pumping stuff into the air at a massive rate. Then he'll move on to India and any other countries who are also contributing.

The guy is amazing!

 

[editec]

Well...we'll just have to wait to see what the plan looks like.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Well...we'll just have to wait to see what the plan looks like.

3 part plan:

1) TAX
2) TAX
3) TAX

 

[Seawytch]

Duplicate thread

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...rs-to-address-climate-change.html#post7420593

 

[tinydancer]

I swear Obama lives in "la la land". By making this move at this time he is going to crush the economy just as it is starting to recover.

 

[Rozman]

This just reinforces the Limbaugh theorem....
Crashing the economy is one way.
Crash it,Obama distances himself from it,blames someone else(the republicans)
comes to the rescue as the good guy and then makes government bigger to fix it because only
government at this point will be able to fix it.....

And then the ObamaBots here get angry when we righties don't praise Obama for rescuing us.

 

[Seawytch]

I swear Obama lives in "la la land". By making this move at this time he is going to crush the economy just as it is starting to recover.

He's listening to the American people...something Congress is unwilling (or unable) to do.

Three-quarters of Americans think the federal government should regulate the release into the atmosphere of greenhouse gases from power plants, cars and factories to reduce global warming, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, with substantial majority support from Democrats, Republicans and independents.

Limits on Emissions Have Wide Support

 

[tinydancer]

There are a couple of new terms in Europe these days. Fuel Poverty and Energy Poverty.

The cost of going green. Dying prematurely is part of the package according to experts.

Across Europe, average electricity prices for households and industries have increased by 29% between 2005 and 2011

. Over the same period of time electricity prices in the USA increased by only 5% and in Japan by 1%.

In the UK household electricity prices jumped even higher – we’re seeing an increase of over80% since 2005.

This was paralleled by an unprecedented surge in the number of households affected by energy poverty in the UK, from 2 million to 5 million.

Europe has allowed the problem of energy poverty to grow out of proportion as many households struggle to pay their energy bills or are unable to maintain sufficient level of heating during winter.

Today between 50 and 125 million people are affected by energy poverty in Europe.

In Bulgaria, Portugal, Lithuania, Romania, Cyprus, Latvia and Malta over 30% of people are unable to keep their homes warm and face disproportionately high energy bills. Meanwhile over 20% of people living in Greece, Poland, Italy, Hungary and Spain face the same challenges.

The problem of fuel poverty in Europe goes beyond mere considerations of comfort.

In England and Wales, 27,000 people die each year because of cold temperatures and 10% of this is directly attributed to fuel poverty.

Extrapolating these figures to the EU level, well over 20,000 people could be dying because of unaffordable fuel every year in Europe.

However, this is a very conservative estimate. Bjorn Lomborg estimates that around 1.5 million people could be dying prematurely each year because of the cold.

Soaring energy costs make Europeans poor | EurActiv

 

[Rozman]

Many people are on the brink financially.
Higher energy costs just might finally break them.
Does Obama and the Democrats care....
No fucking way.

Just apply for government aid to survive.
Another person/family dependent on Government.
Just how the Democrats and this regime wants it.

 

[Mr. H.]

Well...we'll just have to wait to see what the plan looks like.

3 part plan:

1) TAX
2) TAX
3) TAX

Let's keep in mind that still residing in Obama's yet-to-be passed budget are over $40 billion in taxes on oil and natural gas. Taxes that can't be passed along to consumers, but must be borne by the only successful segments of this abysmal economy. Ergo effectively killing the recent boom in hydrocarbon production.

It will only kill jobs and result in higher imports of foreign crude and natural gas.

 

[Mr. H.]

They said those measures would include programs to enhance the resilience of coastal communities as well as Agriculture Department “climate adaptation hubs” that could help farmers cope with changes in temperature and precipitation.

Well, isn't this a What The Fuck moment?

Rather than address agriculture's contribution to "climate change" (and it is substantial), Obama proposes to heap yet more subsidies on Agriculture in order to protect them from "changes in temperature and precipitation".

 

[Oddball]

I swear Obama lives in "la la land". By making this move at this time he is going to crush the economy just as it is starting to recover.

He's listening to the American people...something Congress is unwilling (or unable) to do.

Three-quarters of Americans think the federal government should regulate the release into the atmosphere of greenhouse gases from power plants, cars and factories to reduce global warming, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, with substantial majority support from Democrats, Republicans and independents.

Limits on Emissions Have Wide Support

First off, I call bullshit on the 3/4 number.

Second of all, that poll doesn't say that people want the Boiking ruling by decree.