Obama Steps Up Confrontation

Confrontation & Polarization are the Saul Alinsky Marxist way. I still crack up when the Liberal Press calls this President a "Uniter." He's anything but a "Uniter." Just read Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' and you will quickly see that confrontation & polarization are key elements in becoming a successful "Community Organizer." The Democrats will push for more confrontations with the American People and not less. Hopefully Americans will have some say in coming Elections and begin to put an end to this Socialist/Progressive Nightmare. 2010 could be the beginning of the end for this awful Nightmare. I guess we'll see though.
 
The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.

Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.

Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.

Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.

Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.

Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."

So little time, and so much to repeal.


Damn....It sucks being a Republican

There was a time you were the big dog in town. Bullying your way to force your agenda on the American Public. The public got tired of your act and sent you packing.

President Obama offered a seat at the table and was quickly rebuffed. The Republicans made it clear they wanted Obama to "FAIL" at everything he did. Every issue was to be a Waterloo for Obama.

Obama, thankfully wised up and decided he was going to get things done with, or without GOP support.
I wouldn't know, never having been one.

I can tell you however it will be even tougher being a democrat, they betrayed the public's trust.

I hope they enjoy unemployment, because that is the next stop after doing so.
 
please, for the love of God and truth, or whomever you may worship, read this one link, in full...and come back to me then, and tell me, I am still wrong.

it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone, with any kind of a brain and self respect, to read this article, and still support what xeno mistakenly thinks on this....

BOTH SIDES have been equally atrocious....those from the right wing and left wing have been prosecuted and convicted for their lawlessness...

please read this....maybe then, you and samson and xeno and others can actually admit the truth on this....

the article made me want to throw up, it made me sick inside....as sick as i am certain you all feel on some of the machinations done to get this bill passed.

I am NOT lying, my opinion on this is NOT without merit....which you will see by reading the article.

Poison pill: how Abramoff's cronies sold the Medicare drug bill. - Free Online Library

I couldn't get your linky to work, but I found this:

Its a January, 25 2006, conclusion to a letter to the then Speaker of the House, The Honorable J. Dennis Hastert, wherein Pelosi bitches about unfair practices, etc., etc...

The image and integrity of Congress have been called into serious question. To restore public faith in Congress, the institution must initiate a careful examination of how corrupt practices have influenced the legislative process. Understanding what went wrong is a prerequisite to accountability and reform.

For these reasons, we urge you to direct an immediate investigation into the legislative process that produced the Medicare Prescription Drug Act, the drafting of the pharmaceutical provisions in the pending budget reconciliation bill, and the role of the Alexander Strategy Group.

Sincerely,

Nancy Pelosi
Democratic Leader

Steny H. Hoyer
Democratic Whip

Henry A. Waxman
Ranking Minority Member

Committee on Government Reform

What was the outcome??

how could the link not work? it works fine...and has worked fine hundreds of times already...

when you read it, come back to me, and then we can debate what you want.

care

Ok it FINALLY downloaded, and, basically its a more ranting version of Pelosi's letter, the excerpt of which I gave, asking for an investigation into the activities surrounding the passage of the Medicare Prescription Drug Act.

Anyway, I didn't see anything to suggest MPDA was passed with anything coming close to the public outcry of the Healthcare Act.

Why don't you quote the passage you think is relevant?
 
The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.

Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.

Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.

Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.

Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.

Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."

So little time, and so much to repeal.

Plank #5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:

Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Check.
 
I must confess I'm getting really tired of entirely unrelated pieces of policy being bolted together for the sake of political expediency.

Well, from what I can tell, that's been happening since there was a congress.
 
Obama farted off a whole year seeking biipartisianship and was turned down by the GOP who is banking it's political fortune on not cooperating (and that was before healthcare and before the stimulus). So, what do you expect the POTUS to do? Spend his entire term trying to get people to cooperate who have already declared they will not cooperate??? I think not. Actually, I'm surprised he didn't use recess appointments for all of the vacant positions that are tied up in the senate; now THAT would have been confrontational.
 
The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.

Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.

Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.

Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.

Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.

Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."

So little time, and so much to repeal.

Plank #5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:

Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Check.

Abraham Lincoln killed the bankers stronghold on this country and he was murdered five days after he paid off the national debt.

The banker has been stripping the nation for far too long. I do hope everyone realizes that Judas was the banker. My hopes are that every subsidy banking program that strips the taxpayer and everyday citizen alike will be done away with. When a bank can make a loan for a half a million dollars, collect servicing fees for years, commit major fraud parlaying that same loan into a payment from the taxpayer coffers earning themselves double the loan amount we have a major problem in this country. This does not even take into account all of the erroneous 1099 filings that these banks have filed claiming losses on those same government guaranteed loan programs. The banker has been double dipping off the backs of the people with their creative accounting and the people have been misled to believe that the banks were doing them a great favor, bullshit!

The tax payer has also been subsidizing universities across the nation with these guaranteed loan programs along with all the grants that these same universities receive from the tax payer coffers. I don't see this as a bad thing. Would the people approve of paying these banking criminals money if they actually knew how many of these loans payments are irregular? I do not think they would.
 
The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.

Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.

Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.

Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.

Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.

Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."

So little time, and so much to repeal.

Plank #5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:

Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Check.

So do you support the Federal Reserve, a private business as a big part in our country's monetary policy, and if you do not, then how would you picture our government running things monetarily, without them?

And it is not CHECK, not even close, at least not yet btw! ;)

Why can't private businesses laon to students without government welfare to help them?

There is nothing stopping the banks from creating their own student loans without the government giving them corporate welfare to do them, is there????

no.

So what is preventing the private market from not doing such?
 
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

PolitiFact | Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation's 50 votes

We know from our previous reporting that Grayson is also correct that reconciliation was used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts were also passed by reconciliation. These were more controversial, because at this point the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had started, and later the same year Congress passed a Medicare prescription drug benefit. The vote in the Senate was 51-50, with vice president Dick Cheney breaking the tie. (The vice president is technically the president of the Senate and can break ties.) In this vote, only two Democrats joined the Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts included a number of measures, but the most significant reductions were taxes on dividends and capital gains taxes. Typically, these taxes are on investment income, and those cuts tend to give a bigger break to taxpayers with higher incomes.

Pretty sure this Health Care Bill passed with more votes than that. :eusa_whistle:
 
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

PolitiFact | Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation's 50 votes

We know from our previous reporting that Grayson is also correct that reconciliation was used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts were also passed by reconciliation. These were more controversial, because at this point the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had started, and later the same year Congress passed a Medicare prescription drug benefit. The vote in the Senate was 51-50, with vice president Dick Cheney breaking the tie. (The vice president is technically the president of the Senate and can break ties.) In this vote, only two Democrats joined the Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts included a number of measures, but the most significant reductions were taxes on dividends and capital gains taxes. Typically, these taxes are on investment income, and those cuts tend to give a bigger break to taxpayers with higher incomes.

Pretty sure this Health Care Bill passed with more votes than that. :eusa_whistle:

The 2001 tax cuts passed 58-33. All the Republican senators (with the exception of John McCain, R-Ariz.) were joined by 12 Democrats to pass the measure.
 
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

PolitiFact | Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation's 50 votes

We know from our previous reporting that Grayson is also correct that reconciliation was used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts were also passed by reconciliation. These were more controversial, because at this point the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had started, and later the same year Congress passed a Medicare prescription drug benefit. The vote in the Senate was 51-50, with vice president Dick Cheney breaking the tie. (The vice president is technically the president of the Senate and can break ties.) In this vote, only two Democrats joined the Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts included a number of measures, but the most significant reductions were taxes on dividends and capital gains taxes. Typically, these taxes are on investment income, and those cuts tend to give a bigger break to taxpayers with higher incomes.

Pretty sure this Health Care Bill passed with more votes than that. :eusa_whistle:

The 2001 tax cuts passed 58-33. All the Republican senators (with the exception of John McCain, R-Ariz.) were joined by 12 Democrats to pass the measure.




fucktard.
 
The 2001 tax cuts passed 58-33. All the Republican senators (with the exception of John McCain, R-Ariz.) were joined by 12 Democrats to pass the measure.




fucktard.

Okay? The 2001 Tax Cuts is not the 2003 Tax Cuts. And they still used the measure.

Fucktard.
 
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

PolitiFact | Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation's 50 votes

We know from our previous reporting that Grayson is also correct that reconciliation was used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts were also passed by reconciliation. These were more controversial, because at this point the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had started, and later the same year Congress passed a Medicare prescription drug benefit. The vote in the Senate was 51-50, with vice president Dick Cheney breaking the tie. (The vice president is technically the president of the Senate and can break ties.) In this vote, only two Democrats joined the Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts included a number of measures, but the most significant reductions were taxes on dividends and capital gains taxes. Typically, these taxes are on investment income, and those cuts tend to give a bigger break to taxpayers with higher incomes.

Pretty sure this Health Care Bill passed with more votes than that. :eusa_whistle:

Pretty sure that not a single state took BushCo to court for it afterwords either... :eusa_whistle:

Just sayin'....
 
Obama farted off a whole year seeking biipartisianship and was turned down by the GOP who is banking it's political fortune on not cooperating (and that was before healthcare and before the stimulus). So, what do you expect the POTUS to do? Spend his entire term trying to get people to cooperate who have already declared they will not cooperate??? I think not. Actually, I'm surprised he didn't use recess appointments for all of the vacant positions that are tied up in the senate; now THAT would have been confrontational.

Why the Hell should we cooperate with people that think they should be in control of every aspect of life? Why should we cooperate with people who's sole aim is to destroy free enterprise, and sell future generations into servitude to the Government to pay off their folly, their DEBT which should have bnever happened, and they pile on more?

Is that what you mean? Indeed not only the Republicans, but the people have become the parties of HELL NO to Obama and the Statists.

And by they way? *WE* expect him and the Congress to listen. Didn't happen, did it?
 
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The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.

Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.

Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.

Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.

Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.

Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."

So little time, and so much to repeal.

It's funny how republican opinions differed when it was W who was praised by the right for doing very similar when republicans had the majority.

Now that the republicans are in the minority they get together on threads like this and engage in a circle jerk of pitty as they try so desperately with this new talking point issue of the moment to attack and tear down obama for doing what his REPUBLICAN predecessor did.
 

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