CrusaderFrank
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It's happening right in front of your face, tovarich.
The problem, Dude, is that his face is in Obama's lap
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It's happening right in front of your face, tovarich.
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.
The voters will decide which it is.
simply put, what you are saying, is NOT TRUE....
and THIS shows your flawed thinking on matters imo xeno.
BOTH SIDES have done things like this, to the SAME DEPTH.....me thinks you need to take those rosey colored glasses off, and see the truth about republicans in congress and the DEPTH OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE previously, when they had the majority....
no knowledgeable person on politics could honestly make that statement of yours....
your ''side'' that you choose to honor, is as slimy as the rest of the bunch!
this is why i think arguing about these measures is fruitless....and yes, sad at that!
care
(bolding mine)
Have to disagree there... I don't believe 14+ states ever went to court to counter the passage of one of Bush's bills...
No way is it the SAME DEPTH....
It's happening right in front of your face, tovarich.
The problem, Dude, is that his face is in Obama's lap
simply put, what you are saying, is NOT TRUE....
and THIS shows your flawed thinking on matters imo xeno.
BOTH SIDES have done things like this, to the SAME DEPTH.....me thinks you need to take those rosey colored glasses off, and see the truth about republicans in congress and the DEPTH OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE previously, when they had the majority....
no knowledgeable person on politics could honestly make that statement of yours....
your ''side'' that you choose to honor, is as slimy as the rest of the bunch!
this is why i think arguing about these measures is fruitless....and yes, sad at that!
care
(bolding mine)
Have to disagree there... I don't believe 14+ states ever went to court to counter the passage of one of Bush's bills...
No way is it the SAME DEPTH....
Ditto.
If evidence to "see the truth about republicans in congress and the DEPTH OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE previously, when they had the majority," exists, then why not present it?
Acts of congress are generally public record
Care4all's imagination, sadly, is not.
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.
Its called circumventing the system.
Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.
The voters will decide which it is.
No, it's not about control, nope, not at all.
The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.
Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com
Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.
Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.
Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.
On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.
Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.
Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."
So little time, and so much to repeal.
Plank #5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:
Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Check.
The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.
Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com
So little time, and so much to repeal.Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.
Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.
Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.
On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.
Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.
Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."
Plank #5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:
Check.Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Yep. And the sore losers, on either side, always cry about it.Its called circumventing the system.
Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?
Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.
The voters will decide which it is.
Just more bullshit. The Repukes used reconcilliation 14 times in the last twenty years, the Dems have used it 9 times. We still have 5 to go to even the score
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.
The voters will decide which it is.
Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.
PolitiFact | Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation's 50 votes
We know from our previous reporting that Grayson is also correct that reconciliation was used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans.
The 2003 tax cuts were also passed by reconciliation. These were more controversial, because at this point the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had started, and later the same year Congress passed a Medicare prescription drug benefit. The vote in the Senate was 51-50, with vice president Dick Cheney breaking the tie. (The vice president is technically the president of the Senate and can break ties.) In this vote, only two Democrats joined the Republicans.
The 2003 tax cuts included a number of measures, but the most significant reductions were taxes on dividends and capital gains taxes. Typically, these taxes are on investment income, and those cuts tend to give a bigger break to taxpayers with higher incomes.
Pretty sure this Health Care Bill passed with more votes than that.
Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?
Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.
The voters will decide which it is.
Just more bullshit. The Repukes used reconcilliation 14 times in the last twenty years, the Dems have used it 9 times. We still have 5 to go to even the score
So little time, and so much to repeal.
Actually after the dems lose congress, Barak Hussein will then rule by executive orders.