Obama ISIS Inaction-Similar to Clinton & Rwanda

[Kondor3]

Op-Ed pieces, speculating over circumstantial evidence, just won't cut it.

What do you know about O-I-L that John Abizaid, Alan Greenspan, and Chuck Hagel don't?
"Oil was not the only goal of the Iraq War, but it was certainly the central one, as top U.S. military and political figures have attested to in the years following the invasion.

"'Of course it's about oil; we can't really deny that,' said Gen. John Abizaid, former head of U.S. Central Command and Military Operations in Iraq, in 2007.

"Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan agreed, writing in his memoir, 'I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.'

"Then-Sen. and now Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the same in 2007: 'People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are.'"

Why the war in Iraq was fought for Big Oil - CNN.com

More opinion, by a general, and an ex-DOD chief, and a money-controller.

What are those opinions based upon?

Have any of these folks cited substantive evidence to back up their opinions?

I'm only too happy to concede that such folk are in a position of superior observation capability.

But that's a far cry from substantiation.

For that, we don't necessarily need an incontrovertible smoking gun.

But we do need a lot more than personal opinion - from biased op-ed -blogging activists on CNN, or quotations from officials not privy to the original decision-making process.

It's a lot more believable that we were finishing Daddy Bush's War and eliminating a perceived threat, and establishing a long-term military presence in the region, as the primary casus belli, with advantages to oil companies as a secondary rationale and speculative future benefit that might not even materialize.

I have no problem with believing that oil was ONE of the reasons why we pounced on Iraq - I simply doubt that it was the MAIN reason.

Why? The nation would spend far too much on the war, to warrant the modest return-on-investment and the drain on the treasury.

 

[georgephillip]

More opinion, by a general, and an ex-DOD chief, and a money-controller.

What are those opinions based upon?

Have any of these folks cited substantive evidence to back up their opinions?

What examples of substantive evidence would you find credible?

 

[Kondor3]

More opinion, by a general, and an ex-DOD chief, and a money-controller.

What are those opinions based upon?

Have any of these folks cited substantive evidence to back up their opinions?

What examples of substantive evidence would you find credible?

Government documents utilized in the planning-of and justification-for the Iraq War?

Testimony from decision-makers or those attending the decision-makers, during the planning-of and justification-for the Iraq War?

Things linking Iraqi Oil - beyond a reasonable doubt - as the primary motivation for the Iraq War.

Otherwise, Oil simply becomes one more - in a fairly long list - of reasons (valid or not) for us going to war with Iraq, rather than the primary.

 

[georgephillip]

Government documents utilized in the planning-of and justification-for the Iraq War?

Testimony from decision-makers or those attending the decision-makers, during the planning-of and justification-for the Iraq War?

It seems unrealistic to expect those who earned large amounts of money from the US invasion of Iraq to provide evidence of their responsibility for war crimes, at least as long as their pacemakers hold out.

"On May 9, 2005, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled that the Vice President's Energy Task Force did not have to comply with FACA.[5]

Cheney v. United States District Court - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[elektra]

A fraction of the role our premature withdrawal played.

Had we not illegally invaded Iraq in 2003 our withdrawal would never have been required. There has been a concerted US movement toward regime change in the Middle East since the end of the Cold War, at least. Until the US stops killing/maiming/ displacing millions of innocent Muslim civilians in order to topple their governments, radical Islam will continue winning converts around the globe, and eventually those chickens will come home to roost.

Illegal?

Moslems? You mean the people that sell 6 year old girls as brides?

The U.S. is not the problem in the world, its people like you. What more can be said about your shallow ignorant thinking.