Obama Care Plans Are Worse.

[The Professor]

My health insurance would not meet the requirements set by Obamacare and I wouldn't trade my plan for his even if his were free. Fortunately, because I am also covered by the VA system my private health insurance will not be affected. If you're a qualified vet, you should have received notice from the VA about your private health insurance coverage. If you didn't, you need to check it out.

 

[The Rabbi]

It will achieve Progressive nirvana. Progressives are big on equality. This will make everyone equally poor and miserable. Success!

And yet for this socialist crap to work, people who are reduced to being poor and miserable are still expected to put forth effort to keep it going. Of course, few will continue to try so the whole thing fails. For those who are hoping to continue getting a free ride, it's their fault we are in this mess. If people had resisted becoming government dependents and voting for those who would keep catering to them, we'd still be a prosperous country.

Actually as far as prosperity you may want to take a peek at financial markets and what globalization is doing. Obama, Bush, et al are irrelevant to root cause.

Globalization increases markets and makes products better and cheaper.
What was your point exactly?

 

[editec]

My health insurance would not meet the requirements set by Obamacare and I wouldn't trade my plan for his even if his were free. Fortunately, because I am also covered by the VA system my private health insurance will not be affected. If you're a qualified vet, you should have received notice from the VA about your private health insurance coverage. If you didn't, you need to check it out.

The ongoing complaints about ACA, and the fact that I was called a liar for pointing this out about the VA system gives us a fairly good idea of how many people here are claiming to be VETS who are not.

 

[Clementine]

It will achieve Progressive nirvana. Progressives are big on equality. This will make everyone equally poor and miserable. Success!

And yet for this socialist crap to work, people who are reduced to being poor and miserable are still expected to put forth effort to keep it going. Of course, few will continue to try so the whole thing fails. For those who are hoping to continue getting a free ride, it's their fault we are in this mess. If people had resisted becoming government dependents and voting for those who would keep catering to them, we'd still be a prosperous country.

Actually as far as prosperity you may want to take a peek at financial markets and what globalization is doing. Obama, Bush, et al are irrelevant to root cause.

What is happening under Obama is the top percent are doing better than ever while the middle class is quickly disappearing. A prosperous middle class is the ticket, not increasing welfare recipients on the bottom and more wealth at the very top. Seems that it's all talk when Obama and the liberals claim they will make the wealthy pay their fair share. It's a lie because they cater to the wealthy to ensure that campaign money continues to pour in. What they always do is punish the middle class with all their policies. Right now, most that lost their health insurance plans are middle class and millions cannot afford the plans that the dictator says they are allowed to have.

Obamacare, with 29 new taxes, and more unreasonable regulations are strangling the middle class. Is that intended? I would say so since they know what is happening and they aren't pulling back on any of their harmful policies.

I don't care how wealthy people are as long as they became that way honestly. They should pay the same percent of their wages that we all do and government is the one that needs to adjust to fit their allotted budget.

I don't begrudge any person the right to enjoy the fruits of their own labor and it should always be that way. I just don't appreciate it when liberals lie their asses off and tell their dependents that they will go after the wealthy to help the poor, then turn around and kick the middle class in the teeth. It's always the same thing. And most of the ignorant dependents don't know the difference. They seem to believe that anyone who has a dollar more than they have is wealthy.

Government is always handing billions to countries that hate us, they just spent over a billion to create and attempt to fix the Obamacare site. Billions are spent each year on illegal aliens. Yet, government whines because we aren't handing over enough of our earnings. Fuck 'em. There is a big spending problem and not merely a revenue problem like bat shit crazy Pelosi claims.

The Obamacare plans are less services for more money. Adding maternity coverage for men is not really offering them more in the way of healthcare. It's merely forcing them to cover other people. It's wealth and health redistribution, which means most Americans will be forced to sacrifice for the few. Only 7 or 8 million people who wanted insurance were without health insurance and to fix that liberals came up with this plan that will leave 100 million without insurance, even though they were previously insured. The government will confiscate more of our money than ever before with virtually nothing to show for it. A wealthier and more powerful government and ten times the number of uninsured people in this country is the end result. And they have given themselves power to do much more to us in the future. Home visits where it's up to the discretion of a dishonest IRS leader to decide who, what and how they will take action as a result of those visits. They can deny life saving treatment to anyone and they will know party affiliation of those whose fate they are deciding. They can tell the elderly that pain pills will replace life saving surgery. They will deny certain cancer treatment simply because of cost. No more of this deciding how much you are willing to spend to keep your life. They decide, and quite frankly, they don't seem to place the same value on the lives of the people that we do.

Still think it's about our health care?

When liberals call 8 million people uninsured a 'crisis' that requires a massive takeover by government, yet calls over 100 million people losing their health insurance a mere 'glitch', you know they are full of shit. All they see is the unlimited power they have grabbed and no way in hell will they give it up. The lives of Americans is considered a fair price for their newfound utopia.