obama birth certificate: this one goes to eleven...

[Redfish]

Trump brought this up constantly from 2011-2015- he single handedly brought Birtherism into the National spotlight- and for 5 years promoted it

But it is amusing watching Trump and his supporters blame Clinton for Trump's own Birther idiocy.
No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

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Trump questioned it, as did millions of other people. But the fact remains that the whole issue was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008.

you can deny that until shit turns to water, but its the truth.

Bullshit. Find something earlier than ...

FR CONTEST: "Pin the Middle Name on the Obama"

I was told today that Obama swore in on a Koran for his Senate seat. I do not believe he did. Can someone clarify this for me? I am under the impression only a Congressman has so far sworn in on a Koran.

Also that Obama’s mother gave birth to him overseas and then immediately flew into Hawaii and registered his birth as having taken place in Hawaii.

Again, any clarifications on this? Defintely disqualifies him for Prez. There must be some trace of an airticket. While small babies are not charged air fare they do have a ticket issued for them.

Long time ago but there may be some residual information somewhere. Good ammo (if available and true) BEST USED AFTER he becomes PREZ (if that occurs) and it’s too late for Dems - except accept the VP.


391 posted on 3/1/2008, 459 AM by FARS​

Remember- Redfish is not allowed to post unless he lies, speculates or uses innuendo.

Like all good Birthers.

do you and faun fondle each other as you type? or is it a three way with jakey boi (or his sock rightwinger).

Do you lie as much as you do to compensate for your micro penis? (is that how you relate to Trump?)

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sorry dude, but 9" is not micro. As to Trump's, you will have to ask Melania or Ivana.

 

[Syriusly]

Trump brought this up constantly from 2011-2015- he single handedly brought Birtherism into the National spotlight- and for 5 years promoted it

But it is amusing watching Trump and his supporters blame Clinton for Trump's own Birther idiocy.
No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

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Trump questioned it, as did millions of other people. But the fact remains that the whole issue was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008..

The fact remains- the Clinton campaign didn't start the Birther campaign- as my link showed- but it is amusing watching Trump try to blame Clinton for his own idiocy

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Trump was not a candidate in 2008. Clinton's campaign staffers leaked the birther allegations. That is fact. You are FOS.

NOT that it matters what Donald ever claims....the Clinton campaign DID NOT START it, stop lying!

lot's to read beyond what I posted at the link....

No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

As we’ve previously reported, there were possibly two occasions when die-hard Clinton supporters might have circulated the rumor about where Obama was born. The first case came in April 2008 in the heat of the Democratic primary and the second after Clinton had dropped out of the race on June 3, 2008. There were press reports that in April 2008, a Clinton volunteer forwarded a birther email. The volunteer has never been identified and and some, such as grassroots Democratic blogger Joseph Cannon, question whether the email actually existed.


The later episode mainly played out in a few posts on the website of Clinton backers who ignored her call for party unity. (They operated under the acronym PUMA, which stood for Party Unity My Ass.) A Clinton supporter, Linda Starr, spread the rumor and joined in a lawsuit that ultimately was thrown out of court.


While some Clinton critics argue that anyone tied to the campaign is part of the campaign, that rings hollow when the perpetrator is unknown or if the actions took place after the campaign had been suspended.


Again, none of this adds up to the Clinton campaign or Clinton herself promoting the rumor. Furthermore, while disgruntled Clinton supporters played a role in spreading the birther theory, evidence suggests they didn’t create it, according to Georgia attorney Loren Collins, who’s been tracking the origins of birtherism for years.


(We should note that Collins is running for president as a write-in candidate, who says his only goal is to keep Donald Trump from becoming president. He describes himself as fiscally conservative with libertarian social views.)


The ‘founding father of birtherism’


As with any rumor, it’s difficult to state definitively where exactly false information began. Collins does, however, pinpoint the date birtherism really gained widespread attention: June 9, 2008, upon the publication of a National Review article and six days after Clinton conceded.


Inaccurate references to Obama’s non-U.S. birthplace had sporadically appeared years before 2008, but these were often offhanded and didn’t allege conspiracy. Then in the spring of 2008, says Collins, birtherism began floating around in right-wing blogs, through the promotion of one man in particular.


Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."


Geraghty’s column was reposted by popular conservative blogger Michelle Malkin on June 10, and the Obama campaign released Obama’s short form birth certificate three days later. Still, the conspiracy theorists were not satisfied though "it was pretty much a right-wing phenomenon after October 2008," said Collins. "Then it sort of just festered."


Until Trump came along.

nice summary, and it confirms that the original birthers were Clinton staffers. Thanks for finally admitting what most americans already knew.

Yes, they were very clever and subtle about doing it. democrats are very good at deception and corruption. They are much better at it than republicans, that's why Obama won twice.

Another example of how Redfish lies actually easier than he breathes. What a true blue Birther!

From the article- which demonstrates that Birtherism didn't start with Clinton's campaign- But Redfish lies about

Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."

 

[Syriusly]

Trump brought this up constantly from 2011-2015- he single handedly brought Birtherism into the National spotlight- and for 5 years promoted it

But it is amusing watching Trump and his supporters blame Clinton for Trump's own Birther idiocy.
No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

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Trump questioned it, as did millions of other people. But the fact remains that the whole issue was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008..

The fact remains- the Clinton campaign didn't start the Birther campaign- as my link showed- but it is amusing watching Trump try to blame Clinton for his own idiocy

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Trump was not a candidate in 2008. Clinton's campaign staffers leaked the birther allegations. That is fact. You are FOS.

Trump was a candidate in 2012- and is a candidate now.

And from 2011-2016- Donald Trump himself- not his surrogates, not anonymous 'campaign volunteers', not his campaign- Donald Trump for 5 years was the chief Birther cheerleader. Trump single handedly brought Birtherism into national prominence. You must be proud.

The fact remains- the Clinton campaign didn't start the Birther campaign- as my link showed- but it is amusing watching Trump try to blame Clinton for his own idiocy

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It is true that Trump questioned obozo's birth place. So did millions of citizens and thousands of media people.
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Donald Trump single handedly raised Birtherism from the obscure depths of Orly Taitz's dentistry to national prominence and for 5 years promoted the Birther agenda- he used the Birther issue to appeal to Birther idiots- until he decided he needed rational voters.

Clinton- never questioned Obama's place of Birth
Trump- head Birther from 2011-2016

 

[Syriusly]

[Q
Now, who brought it up in the last few weeks? Do you know? Answer: not Trump.

No one has ever forced Trump to go Birther- and last Friday he brought it up again at a hotel opening

Seth Meyers Tears Donald Trump To Shreds Over Birther Issue | Huffington Post

On Friday, the Republican presidential nominee tried to end his many years of falsely claiming that President Barack Obama was not a natural born citizen of the United States by giving a brief statement at the end of a lengthy event where he promoted his newest hotel.

Seth Meyers Tears Donald Trump To Shreds Over Birther Issue
“You don’t get to peddle racist rhetoric for five years and decide when it’s over.”

 

[Redfish]

Trump questioned it, as did millions of other people. But the fact remains that the whole issue was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008..

The fact remains- the Clinton campaign didn't start the Birther campaign- as my link showed- but it is amusing watching Trump try to blame Clinton for his own idiocy

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Trump was not a candidate in 2008. Clinton's campaign staffers leaked the birther allegations. That is fact. You are FOS.

NOT that it matters what Donald ever claims....the Clinton campaign DID NOT START it, stop lying!

lot's to read beyond what I posted at the link....

No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

As we’ve previously reported, there were possibly two occasions when die-hard Clinton supporters might have circulated the rumor about where Obama was born. The first case came in April 2008 in the heat of the Democratic primary and the second after Clinton had dropped out of the race on June 3, 2008. There were press reports that in April 2008, a Clinton volunteer forwarded a birther email. The volunteer has never been identified and and some, such as grassroots Democratic blogger Joseph Cannon, question whether the email actually existed.


The later episode mainly played out in a few posts on the website of Clinton backers who ignored her call for party unity. (They operated under the acronym PUMA, which stood for Party Unity My Ass.) A Clinton supporter, Linda Starr, spread the rumor and joined in a lawsuit that ultimately was thrown out of court.


While some Clinton critics argue that anyone tied to the campaign is part of the campaign, that rings hollow when the perpetrator is unknown or if the actions took place after the campaign had been suspended.


Again, none of this adds up to the Clinton campaign or Clinton herself promoting the rumor. Furthermore, while disgruntled Clinton supporters played a role in spreading the birther theory, evidence suggests they didn’t create it, according to Georgia attorney Loren Collins, who’s been tracking the origins of birtherism for years.


(We should note that Collins is running for president as a write-in candidate, who says his only goal is to keep Donald Trump from becoming president. He describes himself as fiscally conservative with libertarian social views.)


The ‘founding father of birtherism’


As with any rumor, it’s difficult to state definitively where exactly false information began. Collins does, however, pinpoint the date birtherism really gained widespread attention: June 9, 2008, upon the publication of a National Review article and six days after Clinton conceded.


Inaccurate references to Obama’s non-U.S. birthplace had sporadically appeared years before 2008, but these were often offhanded and didn’t allege conspiracy. Then in the spring of 2008, says Collins, birtherism began floating around in right-wing blogs, through the promotion of one man in particular.


Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."


Geraghty’s column was reposted by popular conservative blogger Michelle Malkin on June 10, and the Obama campaign released Obama’s short form birth certificate three days later. Still, the conspiracy theorists were not satisfied though "it was pretty much a right-wing phenomenon after October 2008," said Collins. "Then it sort of just festered."


Until Trump came along.

nice summary, and it confirms that the original birthers were Clinton staffers. Thanks for finally admitting what most americans already knew.

Yes, they were very clever and subtle about doing it. democrats are very good at deception and corruption. They are much better at it than republicans, that's why Obama won twice.

Another example of how Redfish lies actually easier than he breathes. What a true blue Birther!

From the article- which demonstrates that Birtherism didn't start with Clinton's campaign- But Redfish lies about

Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."

the Clinton campaign used it, did not deny it, and let the rumors stand because they thought it might help the hildebeast in 08, it didn't. and bringing it back up now wont help the hildebitch in 2016.

personally I don't give a shit about Obama or where he was delivered. His terrible time in office is almost over, that's all that matters.

 

[edthecynic]

Trump did not bring this back up, the Clinton campaign did in a failed attempt to take the attention away from her serious failing health and her tanking in the polls. If you cant see that then you are more stupid than I thought you were.

Trump brought this up constantly from 2011-2015- he single handedly brought Birtherism into the National spotlight- and for 5 years promoted it

But it is amusing watching Trump and his supporters blame Clinton for Trump's own Birther idiocy.
No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

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Trump questioned it, as did millions of other people. But the fact remains that the whole issue was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008..

The fact remains- the Clinton campaign didn't start the Birther campaign- as my link showed- but it is amusing watching Trump try to blame Clinton for his own idiocy

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Trump was not a candidate in 2008. Clinton's campaign staffers leaked the birther allegations. That is fact. You are FOS.

NOT that it matters what Donald ever claims....the Clinton campaign DID NOT START it, stop lying!

lot's to read beyond what I posted at the link....

No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

As we’ve previously reported, there were possibly two occasions when die-hard Clinton supporters might have circulated the rumor about where Obama was born. The first case came in April 2008 in the heat of the Democratic primary and the second after Clinton had dropped out of the race on June 3, 2008. There were press reports that in April 2008, a Clinton volunteer forwarded a birther email. The volunteer has never been identified and and some, such as grassroots Democratic blogger Joseph Cannon, question whether the email actually existed.


The later episode mainly played out in a few posts on the website of Clinton backers who ignored her call for party unity. (They operated under the acronym PUMA, which stood for Party Unity My Ass.) A Clinton supporter, Linda Starr, spread the rumor and joined in a lawsuit that ultimately was thrown out of court.


While some Clinton critics argue that anyone tied to the campaign is part of the campaign, that rings hollow when the perpetrator is unknown or if the actions took place after the campaign had been suspended.


Again, none of this adds up to the Clinton campaign or Clinton herself promoting the rumor. Furthermore, while disgruntled Clinton supporters played a role in spreading the birther theory, evidence suggests they didn’t create it, according to Georgia attorney Loren Collins, who’s been tracking the origins of birtherism for years.


(We should note that Collins is running for president as a write-in candidate, who says his only goal is to keep Donald Trump from becoming president. He describes himself as fiscally conservative with libertarian social views.)


The ‘founding father of birtherism’


As with any rumor, it’s difficult to state definitively where exactly false information began. Collins does, however, pinpoint the date birtherism really gained widespread attention: June 9, 2008, upon the publication of a National Review article and six days after Clinton conceded.


Inaccurate references to Obama’s non-U.S. birthplace had sporadically appeared years before 2008, but these were often offhanded and didn’t allege conspiracy. Then in the spring of 2008, says Collins, birtherism began floating around in right-wing blogs, through the promotion of one man in particular.


Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."


Geraghty’s column was reposted by popular conservative blogger Michelle Malkin on June 10, and the Obama campaign released Obama’s short form birth certificate three days later. Still, the conspiracy theorists were not satisfied though "it was pretty much a right-wing phenomenon after October 2008," said Collins. "Then it sort of just festered."


Until Trump came along.

I wouldn't be surprised if Alan Peters was just another Trump alias, like John Miller or John Baron.

 

[Syriusly]

The fact remains- the Clinton campaign didn't start the Birther campaign- as my link showed- but it is amusing watching Trump try to blame Clinton for his own idiocy

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Trump was not a candidate in 2008. Clinton's campaign staffers leaked the birther allegations. That is fact. You are FOS.

NOT that it matters what Donald ever claims....the Clinton campaign DID NOT START it, stop lying!

lot's to read beyond what I posted at the link....

No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

As we’ve previously reported, there were possibly two occasions when die-hard Clinton supporters might have circulated the rumor about where Obama was born. The first case came in April 2008 in the heat of the Democratic primary and the second after Clinton had dropped out of the race on June 3, 2008. There were press reports that in April 2008, a Clinton volunteer forwarded a birther email. The volunteer has never been identified and and some, such as grassroots Democratic blogger Joseph Cannon, question whether the email actually existed.


The later episode mainly played out in a few posts on the website of Clinton backers who ignored her call for party unity. (They operated under the acronym PUMA, which stood for Party Unity My Ass.) A Clinton supporter, Linda Starr, spread the rumor and joined in a lawsuit that ultimately was thrown out of court.


While some Clinton critics argue that anyone tied to the campaign is part of the campaign, that rings hollow when the perpetrator is unknown or if the actions took place after the campaign had been suspended.


Again, none of this adds up to the Clinton campaign or Clinton herself promoting the rumor. Furthermore, while disgruntled Clinton supporters played a role in spreading the birther theory, evidence suggests they didn’t create it, according to Georgia attorney Loren Collins, who’s been tracking the origins of birtherism for years.


(We should note that Collins is running for president as a write-in candidate, who says his only goal is to keep Donald Trump from becoming president. He describes himself as fiscally conservative with libertarian social views.)


The ‘founding father of birtherism’


As with any rumor, it’s difficult to state definitively where exactly false information began. Collins does, however, pinpoint the date birtherism really gained widespread attention: June 9, 2008, upon the publication of a National Review article and six days after Clinton conceded.


Inaccurate references to Obama’s non-U.S. birthplace had sporadically appeared years before 2008, but these were often offhanded and didn’t allege conspiracy. Then in the spring of 2008, says Collins, birtherism began floating around in right-wing blogs, through the promotion of one man in particular.


Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."


Geraghty’s column was reposted by popular conservative blogger Michelle Malkin on June 10, and the Obama campaign released Obama’s short form birth certificate three days later. Still, the conspiracy theorists were not satisfied though "it was pretty much a right-wing phenomenon after October 2008," said Collins. "Then it sort of just festered."


Until Trump came along.

nice summary, and it confirms that the original birthers were Clinton staffers. Thanks for finally admitting what most americans already knew.

Yes, they were very clever and subtle about doing it. democrats are very good at deception and corruption. They are much better at it than republicans, that's why Obama won twice.

Another example of how Redfish lies actually easier than he breathes. What a true blue Birther!

From the article- which demonstrates that Birtherism didn't start with Clinton's campaign- But Redfish lies about

Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."

the Clinton campaign used it, s.

Nope- why do you keep lying?

1. The Birther movement started with right wing bloggers
2. The only candidate running for office that is a Birther and has been a Birther is Donald Trump

Birther in Chief 2011-2016

 

[Faun]

Approximately thr same number of folks who were polled when Reagan was president.

And which president is paying Gallup to perform job approval polls?

so you don't know and don't care--------got it.

It was about the same as Reagan's and the results were about the same. If Obama is the worst then Reagan is right there with him.

since you hate Reagan, that should make you happy.

Can ya get more retarded? I don't think so.

I voted for Reagan, ya moron. Why do you think I hate him?

And I voted for Obama. Two presidents with about the same job approval rating at this same point in their respective presidencies.

About twice as high as Bush's was at this point ... did you vote for that loser?

I voted against Gore and Kerry. Bush was the much better choice both times.

I don't know who they poll to get these approval ratings, but I suspect that most of them come from our inner city ghettos.

I have never been polled, have you? No one I know has ever been polled on that question, do you know anyone who has been?

Do ya think that just maybe the government and the complicit media are lying to us? Think about it.

Who cares what excuses you make up? You voted for Bush.

Twice!

And Bush's job approval rating was half of what Obama's is now at this point in his presidency; while Obama's is inline with Reagan.

As far as knowing anyone who's participated in such a poll, I do. Me. I was called by Pew.

 

[Faun]

Trump brought this up constantly from 2011-2015- he single handedly brought Birtherism into the National spotlight- and for 5 years promoted it

But it is amusing watching Trump and his supporters blame Clinton for Trump's own Birther idiocy.
No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

View attachment 90529

Trump questioned it, as did millions of other people. But the fact remains that the whole issue was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008..

The fact remains- the Clinton campaign didn't start the Birther campaign- as my link showed- but it is amusing watching Trump try to blame Clinton for his own idiocy

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Trump was not a candidate in 2008. Clinton's campaign staffers leaked the birther allegations. That is fact. You are FOS.

NOT that it matters what Donald ever claims....the Clinton campaign DID NOT START it, stop lying!

lot's to read beyond what I posted at the link....

No, Hillary Clinton didn't feed the birther movement

As we’ve previously reported, there were possibly two occasions when die-hard Clinton supporters might have circulated the rumor about where Obama was born. The first case came in April 2008 in the heat of the Democratic primary and the second after Clinton had dropped out of the race on June 3, 2008. There were press reports that in April 2008, a Clinton volunteer forwarded a birther email. The volunteer has never been identified and and some, such as grassroots Democratic blogger Joseph Cannon, question whether the email actually existed.


The later episode mainly played out in a few posts on the website of Clinton backers who ignored her call for party unity. (They operated under the acronym PUMA, which stood for Party Unity My Ass.) A Clinton supporter, Linda Starr, spread the rumor and joined in a lawsuit that ultimately was thrown out of court.


While some Clinton critics argue that anyone tied to the campaign is part of the campaign, that rings hollow when the perpetrator is unknown or if the actions took place after the campaign had been suspended.


Again, none of this adds up to the Clinton campaign or Clinton herself promoting the rumor. Furthermore, while disgruntled Clinton supporters played a role in spreading the birther theory, evidence suggests they didn’t create it, according to Georgia attorney Loren Collins, who’s been tracking the origins of birtherism for years.


(We should note that Collins is running for president as a write-in candidate, who says his only goal is to keep Donald Trump from becoming president. He describes himself as fiscally conservative with libertarian social views.)


The ‘founding father of birtherism’


As with any rumor, it’s difficult to state definitively where exactly false information began. Collins does, however, pinpoint the date birtherism really gained widespread attention: June 9, 2008, upon the publication of a National Review article and six days after Clinton conceded.


Inaccurate references to Obama’s non-U.S. birthplace had sporadically appeared years before 2008, but these were often offhanded and didn’t allege conspiracy. Then in the spring of 2008, says Collins, birtherism began floating around in right-wing blogs, through the promotion of one man in particular.


Collins traced it all back to a prolific anti-Muslim blogger and the "founding father of birtherism," who used the pseudonym Alan Peters. (Collins believes Peters’ actual identity is Ali Pahlavan, a Sante Ana resident who died in 2014.)


It’s likely Peters got the idea from a comment on the popular law blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, said Collins. In a discussion about Sen. John McCain being born in Panama, a reader posed Obama’s Kenyan birthplace as a hypothetical on Feb. 29, 2008. A day later, a commentator whom Collins strongly suspects is also Peters floated it as a fact on the right-wing forum Free Republic.


Then in early March, Peters wrote in a blog post stressing Obama’s "Arab affiliations" that Obama’s mother "allegedly had Obama in Kenya." A month later, Peters penned a note on his other blogs alleging that Obama’s mother "gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered as being in Hawaii."


This began to spread across several conservative forums and blogs (more examples here, here, here and here) until it reached a Snopes discussion board and the eyes of National Review columnist Jim Geraghty.


Geraghty, who previously debunked a rumor about Michelle Obama, encouraged the Obama campaign to release Barack’s birth certificate to squash all the conspiracy theories once and for all.


Though Geraghty’s June 9, 2008, piece notes that the rumor around Obama being born in Kenya is unlikely, Geraghty may have unwittingly shined a national spotlight on a fringe internet theory, according to Collins. (Back then, the fuss was all about Obama being a secret Muslim.)


"The rumor just got so little traction before June. Virtually every instance of it I could find before June (amounted to) a couple dozen," Collins said. "After the National Review piece, you had hundreds of hits within days."


Geraghty’s column was reposted by popular conservative blogger Michelle Malkin on June 10, and the Obama campaign released Obama’s short form birth certificate three days later. Still, the conspiracy theorists were not satisfied though "it was pretty much a right-wing phenomenon after October 2008," said Collins. "Then it sort of just festered."


Until Trump came along.

nice summary, and it confirms that the original birthers were Clinton staffers. Thanks for finally admitting what most americans already knew.

Yes, they were very clever and subtle about doing it. democrats are very good at deception and corruption. They are much better at it than republicans, that's why Obama won twice.

You're nuts to think that confirms Clinton staffers started it. It shows how it started on a rightwing blog in March, 2008.

 

[Faun]

Trump questioned it, as did millions of other people. But the fact remains that the whole issue was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008.

you can deny that until shit turns to water, but its the truth.

Bullshit. Find something earlier than ...

FR CONTEST: "Pin the Middle Name on the Obama"

I was told today that Obama swore in on a Koran for his Senate seat. I do not believe he did. Can someone clarify this for me? I am under the impression only a Congressman has so far sworn in on a Koran.

Also that Obama’s mother gave birth to him overseas and then immediately flew into Hawaii and registered his birth as having taken place in Hawaii.

Again, any clarifications on this? Defintely disqualifies him for Prez. There must be some trace of an airticket. While small babies are not charged air fare they do have a ticket issued for them.

Long time ago but there may be some residual information somewhere. Good ammo (if available and true) BEST USED AFTER he becomes PREZ (if that occurs) and it’s too late for Dems - except accept the VP.


391 posted on 3/1/2008, 459 AM by FARS​

Remember- Redfish is not allowed to post unless he lies, speculates or uses innuendo.

Like all good Birthers.

do you and faun fondle each other as you type? or is it a three way with jakey boi (or his sock rightwinger).

Do you lie as much as you do to compensate for your micro penis? (is that how you relate to Trump?)

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sorry dude, but 9" is not micro. As to Trump's, you will have to ask Melania or Ivana.

Dreams the forum's most prolific liar.

 

[edthecynic]

1. The Birther movement started with right wing bloggers
2. The only candidate running for office that is a Birther and has been a Birther is Donald Trump

Birther in Chief 2011-2016

And Trump is STILL the Grand Dragon of Birthers to the Birthers, they know he only said what he was told to say for election purposes only. Birther second in command Sheriff Joe Arpaio points out he's not bothered by Trump's statement and notes that Trump never said the long form birth certificate Obama released in 2011 wasn't forgery.

 

[Syriusly]

1. The Birther movement started with right wing bloggers
2. The only candidate running for office that is a Birther and has been a Birther is Donald Trump

Birther in Chief 2011-2016

And Trump is STILL the Grand Dragon of Birthers to the Birthers, they know he only said what he was told to say for election purposes only. Birther second in command Sheriff Joe Arpaio points out he's not bothered by Trump's statement and notes that Trump never said the long form birth certificate Obama released in 2011 wasn't forgery.

Yep- Trump knows he still has the gullible Birther vote regardless of what he says and does- so he is now 'pivoting' to try to attract some rational voters. Hilariously trying to blame Clinton for his own Birther idiocy.

 

[Syriusly]

Bullshit. Find something earlier than ...

FR CONTEST: "Pin the Middle Name on the Obama"

I was told today that Obama swore in on a Koran for his Senate seat. I do not believe he did. Can someone clarify this for me? I am under the impression only a Congressman has so far sworn in on a Koran.

Also that Obama’s mother gave birth to him overseas and then immediately flew into Hawaii and registered his birth as having taken place in Hawaii.

Again, any clarifications on this? Defintely disqualifies him for Prez. There must be some trace of an airticket. While small babies are not charged air fare they do have a ticket issued for them.

Long time ago but there may be some residual information somewhere. Good ammo (if available and true) BEST USED AFTER he becomes PREZ (if that occurs) and it’s too late for Dems - except accept the VP.


391 posted on 3/1/2008, 459 AM by FARS​

Remember- Redfish is not allowed to post unless he lies, speculates or uses innuendo.

Like all good Birthers.

do you and faun fondle each other as you type? or is it a three way with jakey boi (or his sock rightwinger).

Do you lie as much as you do to compensate for your micro penis? (is that how you relate to Trump?)

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sorry dude, but 9" is not micro. As to Trump's, you will have to ask Melania or Ivana.

Dreams the forum's most prolific liar.

Is it Redfish or Kaz?

They both kaz so much its a tough call.

 

[Faun]

Remember- Redfish is not allowed to post unless he lies, speculates or uses innuendo.

Like all good Birthers.

do you and faun fondle each other as you type? or is it a three way with jakey boi (or his sock rightwinger).

Do you lie as much as you do to compensate for your micro penis? (is that how you relate to Trump?)

View attachment 90624

sorry dude, but 9" is not micro. As to Trump's, you will have to ask Melania or Ivana.

Dreams the forum's most prolific liar.

Is it Redfish or Kaz?

They both kaz so much its a tough call.

I think Redfish is actually a bigger kazzer than kaz.

 

[Redfish]

do you and faun fondle each other as you type? or is it a three way with jakey boi (or his sock rightwinger).

Do you lie as much as you do to compensate for your micro penis? (is that how you relate to Trump?)

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sorry dude, but 9" is not micro. As to Trump's, you will have to ask Melania or Ivana.

Dreams the forum's most prolific liar.

Is it Redfish or Kaz?

They both kaz so much its a tough call.

I think Redfish is actually a bigger kazzer than kaz.

The truth really scares you libfools doesn't it? No matter, your opinions are of no more vaule than the slime a slug leaves on a sidewalk.

Liberalism is a failed ideology. But while on that subject can you explain why libs love gays and love muslims when muslims want gays executed?

 

[candycorn]

Do you lie as much as you do to compensate for your micro penis? (is that how you relate to Trump?)

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sorry dude, but 9" is not micro. As to Trump's, you will have to ask Melania or Ivana.

Dreams the forum's most prolific liar.

Is it Redfish or Kaz?

They both kaz so much its a tough call.

I think Redfish is actually a bigger kazzer than kaz.

The truth really scares you libfools doesn't it? No matter, your opinions are of no more vaule than the slime a slug leaves on a sidewalk.

Liberalism is a failed ideology. But while on that subject can you explain why libs love gays and love muslims when muslims want gays executed?

332-206.
Wish you could “fail” that way…huh loser boy?

 

[rdean]

these are eleven Trumpisms about obama's birth certificate. theses are all plausible still in the timeline of the birther story. i think it's smart not to talk about it till obama's gone from office. then, who knows. it will all come out someday.

i'd bet the farm that it will be back in the spotlight before the election, cause it's still a political hot potato.

11 of Donald Trump's most outrageous 'birther' claims - CNNPolitics.com

1. "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."
- April 7, 2011, on NBC's "Today" show
2. "Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."
- March 23, 2011, on "The View"
3. "His grandmother in Kenya said, 'Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.' She's on tape. I think that tape's going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting."
- April 7, 2011, on MSNBC's "Morning Joe"
4. "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."

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- August 6, 2012, in a tweet more than a year after Obama released his longform birth certificate
5. "How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama's 'birth certificate' died in plane crash today. All others lived."

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How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s “birth certificate” died in plane crash today. All others lived

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- December 12, 2013, in tweet about the death of Loretta Fuddy.
6. "He's spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I'll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country."
- March 28, 2011, on Fox News
7. "He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."
- March 30, 2011, on The Laura Ingraham Show
8. "He didn't know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said ... He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia ... Now they're saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, 'Oh, I mean Hawaii.' Give me a break."
- May 24, 2012, interview with The Daily Beast's Lloyd Grove, responding to an erroneous report about Obama
9. "A lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. ... Many people do not think it was authentic. His mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that came out. And frankly if you would report it accurately I think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting."
- May 29, 2012, to CNN's Wolf Blitzer
10 "Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows."
- August 2013, to ABC News
11. "Who knows about Obama? ... Who knows, who knows? Who cares right now?... I have my own theory on Obama. Someday I will write a book, I will do another book, and it will do very successfully."

The GOP Nation of Tardation.

 

[washamericom]

do you and faun fondle each other as you type? or is it a three way with jakey boi (or his sock rightwinger).

Do you lie as much as you do to compensate for your micro penis? (is that how you relate to Trump?)

View attachment 90624

sorry dude, but 9" is not micro. As to Trump's, you will have to ask Melania or Ivana.

Dreams the forum's most prolific liar.

Is it Redfish or Kaz?

They both kaz so much its a tough call.

I think Redfish is actually a bigger kazzer than kaz.

what are you guys 5 ?

 

[washamericom]

well, there's no doubt now that the democrat party led by obama clinton and wasserman have seemed so truthful in the past.
obama did say he would be transparent, truth in advertising. just in time for halloween too.

maybe dreams from my father is a half baked half transparent truth too.

 

[washamericom]

Hillary Tells Obama To ‘Call Off FBI’ Or She Will Reveal His True Kenyan Birth Certificate!!! - Nevo News

Hillary Clinton might finally expose the facts about President Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. She is also threatening to expose Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate is bogus as well as his college transcripts reflecting that he attended different colleges as a foreign national.

During a heated exchange between President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton a fierce exchange of words ignited a fire between the two Democratic politicians.

According to an unnamed White House intern, the former Secretary of State demanded that Obama “call off the FBI!”, while Obama demanded Clinton “Terminate