ICE Refuses to Release US Citizen.

[Meathead]

The Taliban were created and recruited by the CIA in 1979, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
They are US allies, and we betrayed them.

BS, Carter supported the Mujaheddin in the late 70s. Pakistan's ISI supported and trained the group, mullah Omar among them, in the 80s.

 

[scruffy]

Wrong.
Yucatan Mayans are natives, while we Europeans are not.
It is we Europeans who rely on citizenship due to birth right.
The natives do not.
The Mayans used to live in North American, so they have natural citizenship rights if principles were followed.
Without anchor babies, then none of us from Europe would have any citizenship rights.

Oh please.

 

[Mac-7]

So, Trump doesn't have to obey any laws written INTO THE CONSTITUTION or made by Congress, if he doesn't like them?

That is the very definition of "Phucking Dictator"

What’s it too you?

This is an issue for Americans to decide

Brits like you should stay out of it

 

[struth]

WRONG.
The only legal way anyone can be put on "detention" is if a judge agrees there is probably cause.
There was not any probably cause or hearing in this case.
Therefore the ICE agents were guilty of the felony of kidnapping.

And YES, state courts most certainly do have authority over Federal Agents who are breaking the law. Can local authorities charge and imprison Federal Agents for rape or kidnapping?
Of course they can.
Releasing their hold does not alter the previous crime of illegally kidnapping a US citizen.

What the f are you talking about? Garcia had a full hearing, he was found to be here illegal and deportable

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Wrong.
Yucatan Mayans are natives, while we Europeans are not.
It is we Europeans who rely on citizenship due to birth right.
The natives do not.
The Mayans used to live in North American, so they have natural citizenship rights if principles were followed.
Without anchor babies, then none of us from Europe would have any citizenship rights.

My family has been here for over 200 years. What is the cut off for being considered a native. If you believe the current migration theories the Mayans are not natives either.

 

[struth]

The Taliban were created and recruited by the CIA in 1979, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
They are US allies, and we betrayed them.

Wrong, we did arm them, but they were already in existence

And then once we helped free them, they turned on us…sad really

 

[Rigby5]

No, those are quasi-indigenous. There was no America then.
I was born here in America and have lived my entire life in America, making me a true Native American.

Wrong.
The name "America" refers to the same continents regardless of time.
Being born here only gives you "birth right citizenship", which is what Trump is trying to stop.
So if he succeeds, then you and Trump both will no longer be citizens.
You can never be a true native because your ancestors can here illegally and illegally took the land without paying the previous real owners.

 

[Rigby5]

'His culture?" There is no such thing. You don't understand what you are even talking about. There is only ONE 'culture' in the U.S. and it is the AMERICAN culture that contains divergent ethnic groups that wish to ASSIMILATE which means learn American English, study American history and seek to become a citizen.

Wrong.
The only "native culture" is one of the Indian dialects like Eskimo-Aleut, Algonquian- (Algonkian-) Wakashan, Na-Dené, Penutian, Hokan-Siouan, and Aztec-Tanoan.
The British culture that speaks English is an illegal invader and totally invalid.

 

[Rigby5]

My family has been here for over 200 years. What is the cut off for being considered a native. If you believe the current migration theories the Mayans are not natives either.

Time has nothing to do with it.
What matters is that your ancestors invalidated their stay by committing crimes like attempted genocide.
Not only did our ancestors constantly violate treaties, but also attempted to murder women and children with things like smallpox and wiping out food sources like the buffalo.

Current migration theories have Mayans as indigenous. They walked across the Bering Straits and did not try to massacre any predecessors.

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong, we did arm them, but they were already in existence

And then once we helped free them, they turned on us…sad really

Wrong.
They NEVER "turned on us" as you claim.
All they asked for was probable cause for arresting Osama bin Laden, and we refused to provide anything.
We also refused their offer to extradite Osama bin Laden to a Moslem country, like Saudi Arabi.

 

[struth]

Wrong.
The only "native culture" is one of the Indian dialects like Eskimo-Aleut, Algonquian- (Algonkian-) Wakashan, Na-Dené, Penutian, Hokan-Siouan, and Aztec-Tanoan.
The British culture that speaks English is an illegal invader and totally invalid.

Good point, it’s Europes fault

Can we sue them?

 

[struth]

Wrong.
They NEVER "turned on us" as you claim.
All they asked for was probable cause for arresting Osama bin Laden, and we refused to provide anything.
We also refused their offer to extradite Osama bin Laden to a Moslem country, like Saudi Arabi.

Well he killed Americans

He bragged about it

 

[Rigby5]

BS, Carter supported the Mujaheddin in the late 70s. Pakistan's ISI supported and trained the group, mullah Omar among them, in the 80s.

Supporting the Mujaheddin is not the problem.
The problem is that the US illegally attacked Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and Egypt.
The Mujaheddin did not violate any treaties, we did.

 

[Rigby5]

Good point, it’s Europes fault

Can we sue them?

But our only separation from Europe is birth right.
So if Trump stops birth rights, then we would all have to go back to Europe.

 

[Rigby5]

Well he killed Americans

He bragged about it

There was no proof of Osama being involved in any terrorist attack until long after we illegally attacked Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc.
And the Taliban were separate from Osama bin Laden.
So our attacks on Afghanistan were criminal.

 

[struth]

There was no proof of Osama being involved in any terrorist attack until long after we illegally attacked Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc.
And the Taliban were separate from Osama bin Laden.
So our attacks on Afghanistan were criminal.

Ok…weird

Go f yourself, cause you are a liar and a pathetic son of a b

 

[struth]

Supporting the Mujaheddin is not the problem.
The problem is that the US illegally attacked Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and Egypt.
The Mujaheddin did not violate any treaties, we did.illefalt

Illegal? What law?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Time has nothing to do with it.
What matters is that your ancestors invalidated their stay by committing crimes like attempted genocide.
Not only did our ancestors constantly violate treaties, but also attempted to murder women and children with things like smallpox and wiping out food sources like the buffalo.

Current migration theories have Mayans as indigenous. They walked across the Bering Straits and did not try to massacre any predecessors.

People like yourself should be the first to self deport back to whatever country your ancestors came from, but I bet you won't because you are full of shit.

Every culture in history has been displaced by others you should know this historical fact but you can't really be blamed for your ignorance the education system in this country is crap. You proved this because the Mayan civilization occupied Southeastern Mexico and northern Central America from 2000 BC–1697 AD. If you believe the Bering Strait theory those people came here 15,000 years ago.

 

[BackAgain]

in our country we have three co-equal branches.

An amazingly retarded post from another libturd. Dumfuk is unwilling to post on topic.

Do you have anything based on verifiable facts and logical thinking which addresses the claim of the thread OP?

Surprise us all.

 

[AZrailwhale]

No, the mother speaks English, it is her son who does not.
This is about the son being illegally held because he does not speak English.
But I live in New Mexico, and at least a fourth of the population does not speak English, like on the Reservations.

There is no way any Native American living on the rez doesn’t speak fluent American English. It is taught in all the schools, their native language would be taught as a second language. To qualify for citizenship an applicant must be fluent in English with a couple of exceptions