Obama Admits Administration Failure: Says Overestimated Iraq Army, Underestimated I S I S

[Kondor3]

Obama: "We greatly underestimated ISIS".

The American People: "No shit, Sherlock."

 

[tinydancer]

I'd like to know how Obama missed this.

You've gotta love it! Barry chose to believe his own view of the Middle East as opposed to what his military and intelligence advisers were telling him...then he turns around and blames the intelligence community for dropping the ball on ISIS and says the military didn't have any plans in place to deal with ISIS.

This is the kind of leadership that inspires those that work for a President!!! They know that Barack Obama will claim any successes as "his" and that any failures will be blamed on "them".

that's actually the opposite of what he said.

so, let's pretend that they hadn't been underestimated.
what do you think we would have done differently?

For starters I'd have recommended that Obama stop his assinine regime change program in the Middle East.

It didn't work in Egypt when he handed the country over to the MB. Libya is a dogs breakfast with militias having pool parties at the US Embassy in Tripoli AND his obsession with deposing Assad has given the world ISIS.

Obama is so crazy wild to get Assad gone he's still talking about arming and training freaking moderate rebels more than he already has.

Idiocy. Pure folly. There are no moderate rebels.

 

[ogibillm]

I'd like to know how Obama missed this.

You've gotta love it! Barry chose to believe his own view of the Middle East as opposed to what his military and intelligence advisers were telling him...then he turns around and blames the intelligence community for dropping the ball on ISIS and says the military didn't have any plans in place to deal with ISIS.

This is the kind of leadership that inspires those that work for a President!!! They know that Barack Obama will claim any successes as "his" and that any failures will be blamed on "them".

that's actually the opposite of what he said.

so, let's pretend that they hadn't been underestimated.
what do you think we would have done differently?

For starters I'd have recommended that Obama stop his assinine regime change program in the Middle East.

It didn't work in Egypt when he handed the country over to the MB. Libya is a dogs breakfast with militias having pool parties at the US Embassy in Tripoli AND his obsession with deposing Assad has given the world ISIS.

Obama is so crazy wild to get Assad gone he's still talking about arming and training freaking moderate rebels more than he already has.

Idiocy. Pure folly. There are no moderate rebels.

so you support the rule of dictators over the popular revolt of the citizenry?

 

[candycorn]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Blah, blah blah blah blah blah.....just like Lucy on Charlie Brown.....this is what it's going to sound like to the public. You people lied, you libs backed the lies up, and now your house of cards is coming down. The American people have been awakened......it's going to be a hard fall....

who lied about what?

The OP about ever being in Iraq.

 

[tinydancer]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Really now. If the Administration didn't understand the enormous dangers of ISIS why would they have placed such a high bounty on Baghdadi's head?

10 Million buckolas. Second only to Zawahiri.

How would they have not realized that ISIS had taken over major oil fields in Syria?

How would they not have realized that ISIS was governing Raqaa and turning it into the Caliphate?

It was all in the news.



Get the message to the Administration to try freaking GOOGLE like tinydancer does every morning.

 

[Plasmaball]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

Do we have a full video of the interview? I'd like to see context.
Since we didn't know maliki would pull this shit with the Iraqi army, obama doesn't get full blame.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

Coming from the "If you like your plan you can keep it. Period" POTUS

Yeah.

we're ready to believe you

 

[tinydancer]

There was never an

I'd like to know how Obama missed this.

You've gotta love it! Barry chose to believe his own view of the Middle East as opposed to what his military and intelligence advisers were telling him...then he turns around and blames the intelligence community for dropping the ball on ISIS and says the military didn't have any plans in place to deal with ISIS.

This is the kind of leadership that inspires those that work for a President!!! They know that Barack Obama will claim any successes as "his" and that any failures will be blamed on "them".

that's actually the opposite of what he said.

so, let's pretend that they hadn't been underestimated.
what do you think we would have done differently?

For starters I'd have recommended that Obama stop his assinine regime change program in the Middle East.

It didn't work in Egypt when he handed the country over to the MB. Libya is a dogs breakfast with militias having pool parties at the US Embassy in Tripoli AND his obsession with deposing Assad has given the world ISIS.

Obama is so crazy wild to get Assad gone he's still talking about arming and training freaking moderate rebels more than he already has.

Idiocy. Pure folly. There are no moderate rebels.

so you support the rule of dictators over the popular revolt of the citizenry?

There was never a popular revolt. This bullshit was just another attempt to depose another ruler in the ME. Plain and simple. No revolt of the citizenry.

That's a lie. Just like it was in Libya.

Obama along with Harper/Cameron et al have been aiding and abetting Qatar/Syria/Turkey in their attempts to overthrow Assad from the get go.

Think about it. What could possibly go wrong funneling multi millions of dollars and weaponry to paid mercenaries in Syria errrrrrrr rebels vetted by the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood?

Surely the money and the weaponry wouldn't fall into the wrong hands.

 

[Iceweasel]

He should have known that any army trained by Bush would cut and run.

That's really over the line. You are as clueless as anyone could be.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama still not ready for Prime Time

 

[tinydancer]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

He should have known that any army trained by Bush would cut and run.

Why don't you explain to the classroom how ISIS became so well armed and financed that they could invade Iraq lickety split from Syria?

Everyone but the No-Information Right knows that Bush's best buddies, the House of Saud, are behind ISIL!!!!!

Thank God for the Saudis ISIS Iraq and the Lessons of Blowback - The Atlantic

The Free Syrian Army (FSA), the “moderate” armed opposition in the country, receives a lot of attention. But two of the most successful factions fighting Assad’s forces are Islamist extremist groups: Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the latter of which is now amassing territory in Iraq and threatening to further destabilize the entire region. And that success is in part due to the support they have received from two Persian Gulf countries: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Qatar’s military and economic largesse has made its way to Jabhat al-Nusra, to the point that a senior Qatari official told me he can identify al-Nusra commanders by the blocks they control in various Syrian cities. But ISIS is another matter. As one senior Qatari official stated, “ISIS has been a Saudi project.”

ISIS, in fact, may have been a major part of Bandar’s covert-ops strategy in Syria.

I have no idea why the print is so big.

Obama's best buddies in Saudi Arabia and Obama's best buddies in Qatar and Obama's best buddies in Turkey.

He owns this shit. I can nuke you on this. Are you sure you want to play?

 

[Billy000]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Really now. If the Administration didn't understand the enormous dangers of ISIS why would they have placed such a high bounty on Baghdadi's head?

10 Million buckolas. Second only to Zawahiri.

How would they have not realized that ISIS had taken over major oil fields in Syria?

How would they not have realized that ISIS was governing Raqaa and turning it into the Caliphate?

It was all in the news.



Get the message to the Administration to try freaking GOOGLE like tinydancer does every morning.

For Christ sakes, just because they have made a name for themselves it doesn't mean our intel couldn't have underestimated them. I know you cons have trouble with nuance but try and keep up will you?

This thread is proof that you people look for reasons to bitch about Obama.

 

[tinydancer]

Here you go Ed. Bush is not involved in this one. And Qatar are knee deep in this bullshit.

It's out there. It has been out there. Obama owns this. Along with other western nations aiding and abetting the freaking Gulf states to try to get rid of Assad.

Check the date. Check the source. Obama is in complete cahoots with SA and others.

C.I.A. Said to Aid in Steering Arms to Syrian Opposition
By ERIC SCHMITT
Published: June 21, 2012 314 Comments

WASHINGTON — A small number of C.I.A. officers are operating secretly in southern Turkey, helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms to fight the Syrian government, according to American officials and Arab intelligence officers.

The weapons, including automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, ammunition and some antitank weapons, are being funneled mostly across the Turkish border by way of a shadowy network of intermediaries including Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood and paid for by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the officials said.

The C.I.A. officers have been in southern Turkey for several weeks, in part to help keep weapons out of the hands of fighters allied with Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, one senior American official said. The Obama administration has said it is not providing arms to the rebels, but it has also acknowledged that Syria’s neighbors would do so.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/w...ms-to-syrian-rebels.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/w...xpands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/w...xpands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

and.....


West training Syrian rebels in Jordan
Exclusive: UK and French instructors involved in US-led effort to strengthen secular elements in Syria's opposition, say sources

West training Syrian rebels in Jordan World news theguardian.com

 

[tinydancer]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Really now. If the Administration didn't understand the enormous dangers of ISIS why would they have placed such a high bounty on Baghdadi's head?

10 Million buckolas. Second only to Zawahiri.

How would they have not realized that ISIS had taken over major oil fields in Syria?

How would they not have realized that ISIS was governing Raqaa and turning it into the Caliphate?

It was all in the news.



Get the message to the Administration to try freaking GOOGLE like tinydancer does every morning.

For Christ sakes, just because they have made a name for themselves it doesn't mean our intel couldn't have underestimated them. I know you cons have trouble with nuance but try and keep up will you?

This thread is proof that you people look for reasons to bitch about Obama.

I've been really freaking bipartisan in my bitching. There's a whole lot of blame to go around.

Your intel was hands on trying to depose Assad. They knew every step of the way that ISIS was becoming the most wealthy and the most powerful terror group evah!

They've know that the so called moderates the FSA have been playing kissy face with al Nusra.

But it didn't matter to those who wanted regime change in Syria.

It's really truly been in the news. For crying out loud I've got the media links.

I know billy. You email the White House and tell them tinydancer uses google and she can fill them in on what they've missed for the past two freaking years.

I've got my shit bookmarked and I don't mind sharing.

 

[Billy000]

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Really now. If the Administration didn't understand the enormous dangers of ISIS why would they have placed such a high bounty on Baghdadi's head?

10 Million buckolas. Second only to Zawahiri.

How would they have not realized that ISIS had taken over major oil fields in Syria?

How would they not have realized that ISIS was governing Raqaa and turning it into the Caliphate?

It was all in the news.



Get the message to the Administration to try freaking GOOGLE like tinydancer does every morning.

For Christ sakes, just because they have made a name for themselves it doesn't mean our intel couldn't have underestimated them. I know you cons have trouble with nuance but try and keep up will you?

This thread is proof that you people look for reasons to bitch about Obama.

I've been really freaking bipartisan in my bitching. There's a whole lot of blame to go around.

Your intel was hands on trying to depose Assad. They knew every step of the way that ISIS was becoming the most wealthy and the most powerful terror group evah!

They've know that the so called moderates the FSA have been playing kissy face with al Nusra.

But it didn't matter to those who wanted regime change in Syria.

It's really truly been in the news. For crying out loud I've got the media links.

I know billy. You email the White House and tell them tinydancer uses google and she can fill them in on what they've missed for the past two freaking years.

I've got my shit bookmarked and I don't mind sharing.

So basically you are saying the CIA is useless? They don't know how to use Google. Where's your google search that the CIA disagreed with Obama from the start?

 

[EconChick]

Obama's trying to hang ISIS missteps on the intelligence community, but the IC warned Obama about ISIS a year ago.

Now he's on 60 Minutes admitting his Administration's failure.....after all, Director Clapper is part of HIS Administration..... about a number of missteps including underestimating ISIS and overestimating the Iraqi Army.

But the IC isn't going to put up with allowing Obama to hang that lie around their necks. It was his stupidity, not theirs.



Eye Opener President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS - Videos - CBS News


Eye Opener: President Obama admits he underestimated ISIS

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Blah, blah blah blah blah blah.....just like Lucy on Charlie Brown.....this is what it's going to sound like to the public. You people lied, you libs backed the lies up, and now your house of cards is coming down. The American people have been awakened......it's going to be a hard fall....

who lied about what?

Look dumb ass. No one takes you seriously on any of these national security topics. You're a pure apologist, lying, POS, hack. Facts are of no interest to you.

You're part of the Deny and Deflect Brigade. We all know that. Have a good day spinning ......

 

[EconChick]

Obama: "We greatly underestimated ISIS".

The American People: "No shit, Sherlock."

Great quote, Kondor! LOL

 

[tinydancer]

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Really now. If the Administration didn't understand the enormous dangers of ISIS why would they have placed such a high bounty on Baghdadi's head?

10 Million buckolas. Second only to Zawahiri.

How would they have not realized that ISIS had taken over major oil fields in Syria?

How would they not have realized that ISIS was governing Raqaa and turning it into the Caliphate?

It was all in the news.



Get the message to the Administration to try freaking GOOGLE like tinydancer does every morning.

For Christ sakes, just because they have made a name for themselves it doesn't mean our intel couldn't have underestimated them. I know you cons have trouble with nuance but try and keep up will you?

This thread is proof that you people look for reasons to bitch about Obama.

I've been really freaking bipartisan in my bitching. There's a whole lot of blame to go around.

Your intel was hands on trying to depose Assad. They knew every step of the way that ISIS was becoming the most wealthy and the most powerful terror group evah!

They've know that the so called moderates the FSA have been playing kissy face with al Nusra.

But it didn't matter to those who wanted regime change in Syria.

It's really truly been in the news. For crying out loud I've got the media links.

I know billy. You email the White House and tell them tinydancer uses google and she can fill them in on what they've missed for the past two freaking years.

I've got my shit bookmarked and I don't mind sharing.

So basically you are saying the CIA is useless? They don't know how to use Google. Where's your google search that the CIA disagreed with Obama from the start?

Obama's the one blaming his intelligence community. I'm just a good citizen of the planet offering to help the Administration out.

 

[EconChick]

You realize of course that Obama got this false information from American Intel right? He listened to experts.

I thought Obama got all his information from the media. You know like when he found out about the IRS. Like when he found out about the VA scandal.

How did he miss this? Someone needs get Obama a freaking newspaper so he can stay in the loop. Or better yet a television in his bloody golf cart.

Check the date Obamabot. Oh and apologies in advance. I have no idea how the copy and paste makes the print so big.

They took it over March 2013. al Nusra was in the lead, ISIS tag teamed. Now ISIS is the greater.



The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa, Syria’s Kandahar

A child looks at child look at stand selling military fatigue in the northern rebel-held Syrian city of Raqqa on October 1, 2013 as violence continues to rage in flashpoints around the country. (Photo: AFP - Mohamed Abdul Aziz)

The Euphrates overflows with blood, and the crows caw over the corpses that the Syrian city of Raqqa sacrifices every day to the princes of death in the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and al-Nusra Front, ever since the two al-Qaeda affiliates turned the city into the first official province of their Islamic emirate. The tyranny that people rose up against has now returned, more morbid than before. Today, Raqqa is Syria’s answer to Kandahar – the birthplace of the Taliban.

The opposition Syrian National Coalition has no presence in Raqqa. All mainstream opposition forces left the city months ago because of clashes between the various brigades of the armed opposition. Raqqa is today without a state, and its people grapple with death every day, with no hope in sight for a normal life.

Though activists called for peaceful protests to reject violence, their efforts did not pan out, especially as many activists were arrested. Now, revolutionary action has returned to secrecy and false names, operating mainly through social media.


Eight months have passed since the armed opposition brigades and al-Nusra Front entered Raqqa, at dawn on 2 March 2013.

Since the armed opposition offensive, only three Syrian army bases in the entire governorate have survived: the 17th division, stationed around 1 km north of Raqqa; Tabaqa military airport, 50 km west of the city, along the Raqqa-Aleppo expressway; and the 93rd brigade, stationed 55 km from Raqqa near the town of Ain Issa.

More at link:

The Mysterious Fall of Raqqa Syria s Kandahar Al Akhbar English

I don't see how this contradicts what Obama said. Them having known successes does not equate to the group we know them as now. Everyone underestimated them. Not just Obama, who again, listened to experts. It's not like he lead the intel initiative. That's not what presidents do

Blah, blah blah blah blah blah.....just like Lucy on Charlie Brown.....this is what it's going to sound like to the public. You people lied, you libs backed the lies up, and now your house of cards is coming down. The American people have been awakened......it's going to be a hard fall....

who lied about what?

The OP about ever being in Iraq.

LOL, there's the Deny and Deflect Brigade ....

...and then there's the FLAKE Brigade. LOL

 

[tinydancer]

BTW I don't believe for one second that the intelligence community wasn't aware of the MEGA threat of ISIS.

I do believe Obama chose not to back off his clear goal of deposing Assad and consequently dismissed the intelligence reports because he didn't give a damn nor did others who took out Assad.

As long as the goal of regime change in Syria was a done deal. Just like Libya.

Obama is lying thru this teeth. I truly feel sorry for those individuals in the intelligence community who have to deal with this inept administration.