Now, Trump wants to charge 14-year-olds as criminals

[Luckyone]

you are a retard the murders happened before the crackdown DC is the 4th highest murder rate of US Cities. The statement is not just about the current situation. You retards will try any lie to pretend to make a point.

You are a hypocrite and a Trump retarded supporter that believes a liar and that is calling others retards. and you being the prime example of one:

Is DC crime ‘totally out of control,' as Trump said? What the numbers show​

But Metropolitan Police Department data shows crime in D.C. is down. Violent crime dropped 26% this year so far, compared to the same period last year. Homicide dropped 12% and assaults with a dangerous weapon dropped 20%. These include non-fatal shootings and stabbings.

 

[Luckyone]

You are talking to me, not trump

Are you aware that adult criminals seek 14-year olds to engage in crime because they are not tried as adults?

Of course I am aware of that, but that happens everywhere in the U.S., not just in Washington DC, which is what Trump was talking about.

and by the way, it is the adult criminals that should be prosecuted even more severely than the teens, given that they know what they are doing is wrong, but teens are not yet fully aware of the laws and what is right or wrong. That is why they are called "teens" and not ADULTS!

Also, are you aware of this fact (which Trump ignored)?

 

[Luckyone]

So, you can't back up your claim? The best you've got is cartoons?

I already did back it up but you are to blind-by-choice to see.

Here is what I put out on another post earlier in this OP:

AI Overview

The legal system treats teens differently than adults when it comes to violent crimes, with a focus on rehabilitation rather than solely punishment. Federal and state laws have established juvenile justice systems with unique procedures and protections for minors. The Supreme Court has also recognized developmental differences between youth and adults, influencing legal interpretations and sentencing.

Federal Laws and the Constitution:

• Juvenile Delinquency Act (JDA):
  .
  The JDA governs federal juvenile justice. It defines a "juvenile" as someone who commits a federal crime before 18 and hasn't turned 21 yet.
  
  
• Juvenile vs. Adult Prosecution:
  .
  The JDA generally requires delinquency proceedings for juveniles, not adult criminal prosecution. However, in certain cases, federal courts can transfer juveniles to adult court, especially for serious offenses.
  
  
• Constitutional Rights:
  .
  The Supreme Court has extended some constitutional protections to juveniles in delinquency proceedings, including the right to counsel, notice of charges, and the right to confront witnesses.

 

[Mac-7]

Of course I am aware of that, but that happens everywhere in the U.S., not just in Washington DC, which is what Trump was talking about.

and by the way, it is the adult criminals that should be prosecuted even more severely than the teens, given that they know what they are doing is wrong, but teens are not yet fully aware of the laws and what is right or wrong. That is why they are called "teens" and not ADULTS!

Also, are you aware of this fact (which Trump ignored)?

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You are NOT doing young criminals or their victims any favors by letting them off with a slap on the wrist

Sooner or later they will kill someone

 

[Independent thinker]

I already did back it up but you are to blind-by-choice to see.

Here is what I put out on another post earlier in this OP:

AI Overview

The legal system treats teens differently than adults when it comes to violent crimes, with a focus on rehabilitation rather than solely punishment. Federal and state laws have established juvenile justice systems with unique procedures and protections for minors. The Supreme Court has also recognized developmental differences between youth and adults, influencing legal interpretations and sentencing.

Federal Laws and the Constitution:

• Juvenile Delinquency Act (JDA):
  .
  The JDA governs federal juvenile justice. It defines a "juvenile" as someone who commits a federal crime before 18 and hasn't turned 21 yet.
  
  
• Juvenile vs. Adult Prosecution:
  .
  The JDA generally requires delinquency proceedings for juveniles, not adult criminal prosecution. However, in certain cases, federal courts can transfer juveniles to adult court, especially for serious offenses.
  
  
• Constitutional Rights:
  .
  The Supreme Court has extended some constitutional protections to juveniles in delinquency proceedings, including the right to counsel, notice of charges, and the right to confront witnesses.

I still don't see a link to any 14 year old who Trump arrested for hitting their neighbor's son and stealing his wallet. Do you have one or not?

 

[Luckyone]

You are doing young criminals or their victims any favors by letting them off with a slap on the wrist

Sooner or later they will kill someone

"I" am NOT doing that, it is the Constitution and the laws that are doing that. If you believe differently, don't talk to me about it, but go and try to change the laws

AI Overview

The legal system treats teens differently than adults when it comes to violent crimes, with a focus on rehabilitation rather than solely punishment. Federal and state laws have established juvenile justice systems with unique procedures and protections for minors. The Supreme Court has also recognized developmental differences between youth and adults, influencing legal interpretations and sentencing.

Federal Laws and the Constitution:

• Juvenile Delinquency Act (JDA):
  .
  The JDA governs federal juvenile justice. It defines a "juvenile" as someone who commits a federal crime before 18 and hasn't turned 21 yet.
  
  
• Juvenile vs. Adult Prosecution:
  .
  The JDA generally requires delinquency proceedings for juveniles, not adult criminal prosecution. However, in certain cases, federal courts can transfer juveniles to adult court, especially for serious offenses.
  
  
• Constitutional Rights:
  .
  The Supreme Court has extended some constitutional protections to juveniles in delinquency proceedings, including the right to counsel, notice of charges, and the right to confront witnesses.

 

[jknowgood]

Trump posted the following message on Truth Social:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Crime in Washington, D.C., is totally out of control. Local “youths” and gang members, some only 14, 15, and 16-years-old, are randomly attacking, mugging, maiming, and shooting innocent Citizens, at the same time knowing that they will be almost immediately released. They are not afraid of Law Enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them, but it’s going to happen now! The Law in D.C. must be changed to prosecute these “minors” as adults, and lock them up for a long time, starting at age 14. The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. Washington, D.C., must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans and, importantly, for the World to see. If D.C. doesn’t get its act together, and quickly, we will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore. Perhaps it should have been done a long time ago, then this incredible young man, and so many others, would not have had to go through the horrors of Violent Crime. If this continues, I am going to exert my powers, and FEDERALIZE this City. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

This suggests that not only will anyone that doesn't see (and agree) with Trump "or wants to complain" about his way of thinking, should be put in Jail, including minors.

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Hey, you loons think 8 year olds are mature enough to change their sex. So why not jail?

 

[Mac-7]

"I" am NOT doing that, it is the Constitution and the laws that are doing that. If you believe differently, don't talk to me about it, but go and try to change the laws

The constitution does not set the age for trying young criminals as adults

An unelected bleeding heart lib judge made that decision

 

[Luckyone]

I still don't see a link to any 14 year old who Trump arrested for hitting their neighbor's son and stealing his wallet. Do you have one or not?

That is not what the OP is about. It is about Trump "STATING" the following

I (trump) will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore.

He has not done it "YET", but he has put out the threat that he does not have the legal/Constitutional power to do. A lot of Dictator-type words.

 

[Hector12]

Trump posted the following message on Truth Social:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Crime in Washington, D.C., is totally out of control. Local “youths” and gang members, some only 14, 15, and 16-years-old, are randomly attacking, mugging, maiming, and shooting innocent Citizens, at the same time knowing that they will be almost immediately released. They are not afraid of Law Enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them, but it’s going to happen now! The Law in D.C. must be changed to prosecute these “minors” as adults, and lock them up for a long time, starting at age 14. The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. Washington, D.C., must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans and, importantly, for the World to see. If D.C. doesn’t get its act together, and quickly, we will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore. Perhaps it should have been done a long time ago, then this incredible young man, and so many others, would not have had to go through the horrors of Violent Crime. If this continues, I am going to exert my powers, and FEDERALIZE this City. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

This suggests that not only will anyone that doesn't see (and agree) with Trump "or wants to complain" about his way of thinking, should be put in Jail, including minors.

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I will wait and see if Trump's policies reduce crime in Washington, DC before I will pass judgment on them. If they are effective, I hope they are adopted in other cities.

 

[Independent thinker]

That is not what the OP is about. It is about Trump "STATING" the following

I (trump) will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore.

He has not done it "YET", but he has put out the threat that he does not have the legal/Constitutional power to do. A lot of Dictator-type words.

So, you admit you have no examples of a 14 year old being arrested by Trump for hitting their neighbor's son and taking his wallet.

 

[Luckyone]

I will wait and see if Trump's policies reduce crime in Washington, DC before I will pass judgment on them. If they are effective, I hope they are adopted in other cities.

I don't agree with you. Success does not mean that prosecuting teens the same as adults (except in some few cases) is ever the right thing to do. The definition of "teen" and "adult" has been around since time began and should be there until the end of time. There is an age difference that has been clearly determined in every way possible as being physically and emotionally different and that is never going to change.

What you are saying, and it gets done, it will ultimately mean that at some time in the future, even babies could be put in jail if they commit a crime.

 

[Luckyone]

So, you admit you have no examples of a 14 year old being arrested by Trump for hitting their neighbor's son and taking his wallet.

You really are a stupid and ignorant person that has no ability to understand what it said.

One LAST TIME.

The OP is not about something being DONE but about a man (Trump) trying to skirt the Constitution and the laws by saying he might do it.

This is what this is all about

AI Overview

Threatening someone can lead to serious legal consequences, potentially resulting in criminal charges, jail time, fines, and even civil lawsuits. The specific consequences depend on the nature and severity of the threat, the jurisdiction, and whether the threat involves a public official or a deadly weapon.

Trump is threatening to do something that will hurt someone who legally (with the existing laws and Constitutional rights) should not suffer what Trump is threatening to do.

What is even worse is that his person (Trump) is the president of the United States and he should know better as he vowed to protect the Constitution and the laws of the U.S.

Now go back and join the rest of your friends

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You dopes support harsh punishment for criminals, unless his name is Donald Trump....How stupid can one be not to see the vindictive hypocrisy of yer so-called morals?

Lying about someone committing a crime is not the same as actually committing a crime.

 

[Independent thinker]

You really are a stupid and ignorant person that has no ability to understand what it said.

One LAST TIME.

The OP is not about something being DONE but about a man (Trump) trying to skirt the Constitution and the laws by saying he might do it.

This is what this is all about

AI Overview

Threatening someone can lead to serious legal consequences, potentially resulting in criminal charges, jail time, fines, and even civil lawsuits. The specific consequences depend on the nature and severity of the threat, the jurisdiction, and whether the threat involves a public official or a deadly weapon.

Trump is threatening to do something that will hurt someone who legally (with the existing laws and Constitutional rights) should not suffer what Trump is threatening to do.

What is even worse is that his person (Trump) is the president of the United States and he should know better as he vowed to protect the Constitution and the laws of the U.S.

Now go back and join the rest of your friends

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You posted a cartoon saying that Trump would arrest a 14 year old for hitting their neighbor's son and taking his wallet. All I asked for was proof that Trump ever did that and, apparently, you can't provide any proof. Are you now willing to retract that cartoon for being fake news?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I don't agree with you. Success does not mean that prosecuting teens the same as adults (except in some few cases) is ever the right thing to do. The definition of "teen" and "adult" has been around since time began and should be there until the end of time. There is an age difference that has been clearly determined in every way possible as being physically and emotionally different and that is never going to change.

What you are saying, and it gets done, it will ultimately mean that at some time in the future, even babies could be put in jail if they commit a crime.

Babies are routinely killed, by the thousands, by the millions for the crime of having been conceived. Now you want to get all teary-eyed because some killer is really facing serious punishment for a life of crime short though it has been. Sympathy for the children.

He got a gun when he was twelve. Shot and paralyzed a woman when he was 14. After a short search he was found held on a charge of attempted murder having stabbed someone else. This is what you want running the streets.

 

[irosie91]

Trump posted the following message on Truth Social:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Crime in Washington, D.C., is totally out of control. Local “youths” and gang members, some only 14, 15, and 16-years-old, are randomly attacking, mugging, maiming, and shooting innocent Citizens, at the same time knowing that they will be almost immediately released. They are not afraid of Law Enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them, but it’s going to happen now! The Law in D.C. must be changed to prosecute these “minors” as adults, and lock them up for a long time, starting at age 14. The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. Washington, D.C., must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans and, importantly, for the World to see. If D.C. doesn’t get its act together, and quickly, we will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore. Perhaps it should have been done a long time ago, then this incredible young man, and so many others, would not have had to go through the horrors of Violent Crime. If this continues, I am going to exert my powers, and FEDERALIZE this City. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

This suggests that not only will anyone that doesn't see (and agree) with Trump "or wants to complain" about his way of thinking, should be put in Jail, including minors.

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seems to me that Trump cited VIOLENT CRIMINALS ---not "dissidents"

 

[deannalw]

You are a Trump puppet

You are wrong.

 

[Papageorgio]

No, it doesn't but it doesn't mean "jail". Usually what is done is "rehabilitation within the Juvenile Justice system". Totally different to what Trump is suggesting.

Give me examples please because recidivism rates for youth are quite high, I do believe that some minors be treated as minors but some minors need to be treated like adults. The violence is most concerning for me.

 

[Luckyone]

You are wrong.

that is the "impression" given by your posts