Now Trump wants help from allies, allies fed up with Trump say "no"

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He's demanding that all the nations that use the oil that comes through the Strait of Hormuz step up and do something for it.

The US is NOT the world's big brother.






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We should literally shut all of our bases down in Europe and bring our stuff home. Let them spend billions on their own militaries. I don't see why we have to foot the bill for Europe's defense budget.
 
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He's demanding that all the nations that use the oil that comes through the Strait of Hormuz step up and do something for it.

The US is NOT the world's big brother.






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Trump should of thought there may be situations in the future where we wil need NATO's help before saying we don't need their help and insulting them. He also insulted the NATO soldiers who lost their lives in helping the USA after 9/11.
Trump uses insult and fear to get what he wants. His style and lack of planning it is hurting our war effort.
 
Dishonest framing. Trump is calling for an international peacekeeping force in the Strait of Hormuz. He's not asking them for help in toppling the regime. This is a lie.
I said help. That help is help opening the straits of Hormuz. That is help. He has said he does not need NATO help in the past. He is asking for other help also. He would like the support NATO gave us after 9/11.
His style is not Presidential, it is not the style of a respected leader. That is hurting the US in the execution of the Iran war.
 
I said help. That help is help opening the straits of Hormuz. That is help. He has said he does not need NATO help in the past. He is asking for other help also. He would like the support NATO gave us after 9/11.
His style is not Presidential, it is not the style of a respected leader. That is hurting the US in the execution of the Iran war.
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The Strait of Hormuz has not been "closed".




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Trump should of thought there may be situations in the future where we wil need NATO's help before saying we don't need their help and insulting them. He also insulted the NATO soldiers who lost their lives in helping the USA after 9/11.
Trump uses insult and fear to get what he wants. His style and lack of planning it is hurting our war effort.

If all it takes to shit can the alliance is some hurt feelings,

then what value was the alliance anyways?
 
Third pissy pants thread I have seen on this today.

Heaven forbid we ask Europe to help defend the oil going to them. I say we just escort any ship bringing oil to the US. The rest of you are on your own.
For success in Iran, standing up for Trump as opposed to standing up what needs to be done to finish the war will end up with more lives lost.
GET OFF THE TRUMP WAGON and GET ON THE USA WAGON.
 
Allies don’t want to join Trump because they know his insane war is unwarranted and illegal.
But when this is over, Iran is no longer a thorn in the world's side, and Trump's popularity is through the roof, Trump will remember who helped and who didn't. I hope Europe does nothing and gives Trump a great reason to exit NATO. They need us, we don't need them. Now, I know you are a neo-leftist and hate everything Trump and America, so let me preemptively tell you to **** off, and don't waste any time responding to this.
 
We should literally shut all of our bases down in Europe and bring our stuff home. Let them spend billions on their own militaries. I don't see why we have to foot the bill for Europe's defense budget.
Should we have gone to war with Iran?
 
We should literally shut all of our bases down in Europe and bring our stuff home. Let them spend billions on their own militaries. I don't see why we have to foot the bill for Europe's defense budget.
Why the hell should Europe worry about the Straits? And why the hell should Europe sacrifice blood and treasure to clean up Trump's mess? I mean Trump is the consummate spoiled ass brat. Rule three in this house, you broke it, you fix it.
 
But when this is over, Iran is no longer a thorn in the world's side, and Trump's popularity is through the roof, Trump will remember who helped and who didn't. I hope Europe does nothing and gives Trump a great reason to exit NATO. They need us, we don't need them. Now, I know you are a neo-leftist and hate everything Trump and America, so let me preemptively tell you to **** off, and don't waste any time responding to this.
More likely we will have a global depression that will make the 2008 recession look like a time of prosperity.
 
Why the hell should Europe worry about the Straits? And why the hell should Europe sacrifice blood and treasure to clean up Trump's mess? I mean Trump is the consummate spoiled ass brat. Rule three in this house, you broke it, you fix it.
Maybe they shouldn't. Why the hell should we care about Europe? We've done enough for them. End the aid and funding of their military. **** em'.
 
Oh come on. Europe gets about 3.8% of the oil that flows through the Strait, the US, about 2.5%. 85% goes to China, India, Japan, and South Korea.
It effects the price of oil worldwide. Educate yourself.
As of March 2026, global oil prices are primarily standardized through three major, highly volatile international benchmarks—Brent Crude, West Texas Intermediate (WTI), and Dubai/Oman Crude—which are currently trading around or above $100 per barrel due to geopolitical conflicts in the Middle East. While these benchmarks provide a standard reference price, actual transaction prices vary based on oil quality, location, and regional supply chain factors
 
Why the hell should Europe worry about the Straits? And why the hell should Europe sacrifice blood and treasure to clean up Trump's mess? I mean Trump is the consummate spoiled ass brat. Rule three in this house, you broke it, you fix it.


So, all that talk about the EUOPEAN leaders being "the adults", who know what needs done and get it done, without bluster or blah, blah, blah...

that was just shit talk?

Like I always knew it was.
 
Why the hell should Europe worry about the Straits? And why the hell should Europe sacrifice blood and treasure to clean up Trump's mess? I mean Trump is the consummate spoiled ass brat. Rule three in this house, you broke it, you fix it.
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Does the oil that Europe uses come to them through the Strait?






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Tariffs were clgoing to collapse the economy.
Of course, I never predicted that tariffs were going to "collapse the economy."

They do contribute to the ongoing inflation, as Americans pay 90% of trump's tariffs.

The blowhard had said, “Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods.”


Polls indicate that tariffs have a significant impact on inflation rates.


I'll never understand how such a repulsive personality attracted a cult and alienate them from most Americans.
 
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But when this is over, Iran is no longer a thorn in the world's side, and Trump's popularity is through the roof, Trump will remember who helped and who didn't. I hope Europe does nothing and gives Trump a great reason to exit NATO. They need us, we don't need them. Now, I know you are a neo-leftist and hate everything Trump and America, so let me preemptively tell you to **** off, and don't waste any time responding to this.
Delusional and ignorant thinking.
 
So, all that talk about the EUOPEAN leaders being "the adults", who know what needs done and get it done, without bluster or blah, blah, blah...

that was just shit talk?

Like I always knew it was.
They have been exposed. Europe has always been an enemy of the United States, its just until Trump they had been able to hide it due to US and European media papering over these divides. I mean, they literally consider us in the same category as countries like Russia and North Korea ffs. They've completely lost their minds.
 
Of course, I never predicted that tariffs were going to "collapse the economy."

They do contribute to the ongoing inflation, as Americans pay 90% of trump's tariffs.

The blowhard had said, “Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods.”


Polls indicate that tariffs have a significant impact on inflation rates.


I'll never understand how such a repulsive personality attracted a cult and alienate them from most Americans.
My guess is you’re no different from the dumb MAGAs. You’ve proven yourself a ridiculous D Party partisan.

I’m betting you’d support this dumb war for Israel if Genocide Joe or Kooky Kamala did it.
 

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