Non US citizens have a say! Why?

[Asclepias]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

So...do I take it you are on record as claiming they’ve been doing it wrong since 1790?

Ok, show us the wording from 1790, and subsequent census law where non citizens are counted for the purpose of representative apportionment.

Why dont you show us where it says only citizens are counted?

 

[my2¢]

Why? I haven't paid it much matter but would think it is because the Constitution hasn't changed since the days when immigrants were arriving in the country left and right. Perhaps this may be one of those issues where conservatives take a liberal stance on the Constitution being a living document while liberals take a conservative stance?

Pursuant to this power, Congress in 1790 passed the first naturalization law for the United States, the Naturalization Act of 1790. The law enabled those who had resided in the country for two years and had kept their current state of residence for a year to apply for citizenship. However it restricted naturalization to "free white persons" of "good moral character".

The Naturalization Act of 1795 increased the residency requirement to five years residence and added a requirement to give a three years notice of intention to apply for citizenship, and the Naturalization Act of 1798 further increased the residency requirement to 14 years and required five years notice of intent to apply for citizenship.

History of laws concerning immigration and naturalization in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[Asclepias]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

Who told you that? Show us in the constitution where it says this.

Show us where illegals are citizens.

Answer my question and stop stalling.

See post 44 Asslips. Stop stalling. Where are illegals citizens?

I asked first. Answer my question and stop stalling.

 

[lantern2814]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

So...do I take it you are on record as claiming they’ve been doing it wrong since 1790?

Don’t you ever think you can speak for me asshole. Your bullshit comparison means nothing to real Americans. Illegals are not citizens and have no say. Period. You are on record as a dumbass and a liar.

Just trying to figure out what your thesis is here, maestro...clearly not in the realm of history and likely not reality either.

Like an uneducated Obozo/Xiden shill knows anything about history. Reality is where we real Americans live. Not that libtard fantasy land you inhabit. Illegals have no say. Period. And compared to you my 3 year old is Einstein.

Your competency is declining with every word you type. You seem to think that our founders were completely wrong in how the census is counted...what makes you more knowledgeable?

See post 44 to have your fantasy crushed. I will never be less competent than a liar like you. I am far more knowledgeable than you’ll ever be. Not that that’s difficult

 

[WEATHER53]

Now non US citizens will be counted for apportioning congressional representatives. Amazing. Am I reading this correctly and how does no one have issues with this?

Executive Order on Ensuring a Lawful and Accurate Enumeration and Apportionment Pursuant to the Decennial Census | The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Background. We have long guaranteed all of the Nation’s inhabitants representation in the House of Representatives. This tradition is foundational to...

www.whitehouse.gov

Because that's what the COTUS says

Constitution confers no constitutional benefits to non citizens. Laws protect them from assault and the like but there is Zero in constitution about, for example, non citizens much less illegals receiving welfare just becauseUS Citizens do

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

Who told you that? Show us in the constitution where it says this.

I don't think the COTUS says it, but it makes sense. Since the census determines the apportionment of Representatives who will be voted on, and only American citizens can vote in federal elections (as far as I know), it makes sense.

The census has nothing to do with voting. Its for determining the allocation of resources for people in a given area.

I am sure you know that it has everything to do with apportionment of representatives, don't you?

Only citizens can vote for representatives.

So, it has quite a bit to do with voting.

That district you vote in - the size of that district has been determined by the most recent census.

You know this, don't you?

So, what is your point? It makes no sense to me. The census to a very large extent dtermines whom you will be able to vote for in the House of Representatives.

 

[lantern2814]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

Who told you that? Show us in the constitution where it says this.

Show us where illegals are citizens.

Answer my question and stop stalling.

See post 44 Asslips. Stop stalling. Where are illegals citizens?

I asked first. Answer my question and stop stalling.

SEE POST 44. Stop stalling and answer where illegals are citizens.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Now non US citizens will be counted for apportioning congressional representatives. Amazing. Am I reading this correctly and how does no one have issues with this?

Executive Order on Ensuring a Lawful and Accurate Enumeration and Apportionment Pursuant to the Decennial Census | The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Background. We have long guaranteed all of the Nation’s inhabitants representation in the House of Representatives. This tradition is foundational to...

www.whitehouse.gov

Hey dumbass...the Constitution mandates that the census be carried out...and does NOT specify that it counts only citizens.

Go check the wording

When it was written do you assume that the founding fathers thought non citizens would be part of the count? In your honest opinion. See if you can give one, Herr Lesh.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

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So we should count illegals too? They are inhabitants.

For the purpose of an accurate census...yes.
Isn't that what the Constitution calls for?

Tourists are inhabitants too. Do we count them?

Tourists, by definition, are not.

So why are illegals and non residents when they too could be temporary?

They reside here. Tourists, by definition, only visit Short term.

So do non residents sometimes. Slippery slope when you start counting non citizens. I can see green card members

 

[ranfunck]

Because it shows how much we care and love everybody no matter what disadvantages they bring to us to deal with

Except babies.

 

[HappyJoy]

Now non US citizens will be counted for apportioning congressional representatives. Amazing. Am I reading this correctly and how does no one have issues with this?

Executive Order on Ensuring a Lawful and Accurate Enumeration and Apportionment Pursuant to the Decennial Census | The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Background. We have long guaranteed all of the Nation’s inhabitants representation in the House of Representatives. This tradition is foundational to...

www.whitehouse.gov

Because that's what the COTUS says

Constitution confers no constitutional benefits to non citizens. Laws protect them from assault and the like but there is Zero in constitution about, for example, non citizens much less illegals receiving welfare just becauseUS Citizens do

The Constitution protects everyone in the country from things like illegal search and seizure, fair trial, freedom to associate. You know...all that stuff you guys only care about when some idiot gets shot storming the capitol.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So we should count illegals too? They are inhabitants.

For the purpose of an accurate census...yes.
Isn't that what the Constitution calls for?

Tourists are inhabitants too. Do we count them?

It's generally assumed that tourists are not residents.

Why can’t non citizens be as well? Their stay is also unpredictable

Because they are residents. Should we also stop counting people over the age of 80?

Tourists are residents. Albeit short term.

 

[HappyJoy]

So we should count illegals too? They are inhabitants.

For the purpose of an accurate census...yes.
Isn't that what the Constitution calls for?

Tourists are inhabitants too. Do we count them?

It's generally assumed that tourists are not residents.

Why can’t non citizens be as well? Their stay is also unpredictable

Because they are residents. Should we also stop counting people over the age of 80?

Tourists are residents. Albeit short term.

Nope, not even a little.

 

[Care4all]

Now non US citizens will be counted for apportioning congressional representatives. Amazing. Am I reading this correctly and how does no one have issues with this?

Executive Order on Ensuring a Lawful and Accurate Enumeration and Apportionment Pursuant to the Decennial Census | The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Background. We have long guaranteed all of the Nation’s inhabitants representation in the House of Representatives. This tradition is foundational to...

www.whitehouse.gov

It's always been the case.... ALL PERSONS residing here are counted in the census every ten years for appropriation distribution.

If you are human, and live here, you are counted.

Pres Trump was trying to change such....but could not, due to our constitution.... didn't stop him from trying....

 

[Asclepias]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

Who told you that? Show us in the constitution where it says this.

I don't think the COTUS says it, but it makes sense. Since the census determines the apportionment of Representatives who will be voted on, and only American citizens can vote in federal elections (as far as I know), it makes sense.

The census has nothing to do with voting. Its for determining the allocation of resources for people in a given area.

I am sure you know that it has everything to do with apportionment of representatives, don't you?

Only citizens can vote for representatives.

So, it has quite a bit to do with voting.

That district you vote in - the size of that district has been determined by the most recent census.

You know this, don't you?

So, what is your point? It makes no sense to me. The census to a very large extent dtermines whom you will be able to vote for in the House of Representatives.

You cant vote if you are not a citizen. Apportionment of representatives depends on the population of people not citizens. Here. Let me help you guys out.

Why We Conduct the Decennial Census of Population and Housing

The information the census collects helps to determine how more than $400 billion dollars of federal funding each year is spent on infrastructure and services.

www.census.gov

 

[Coyote]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

So...do I take it you are on record as claiming they’ve been doing it wrong since 1790?

Don’t you ever think you can speak for me asshole. Your bullshit comparison means nothing to real Americans. Illegals are not citizens and have no say. Period. You are on record as a dumbass and a liar.

Just trying to figure out what your thesis is here, maestro...clearly not in the realm of history and likely not reality either.

Like an uneducated Obozo/Xiden shill knows anything about history. Reality is where we real Americans live. Not that libtard fantasy land you inhabit. Illegals have no say. Period. And compared to you my 3 year old is Einstein.

Your competency is declining with every word you type. You seem to think that our founders were completely wrong in how the census is counted...what makes you more knowledgeable?

See post 44 to have your fantasy crushed. I will never be less competent than a liar like you. I am far more knowledgeable than you’ll ever be. Not that that’s difficult

Since you are so knowledgeable, far more than I, tell us: what does post #44 have to do with the first census?

 

[j-mac]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

So...do I take it you are on record as claiming they’ve been doing it wrong since 1790?

Ok, show us the wording from 1790, and subsequent census law where non citizens are counted for the purpose of representative apportionment.

Why dont you show us where it says only citizens are counted?

Because I'm not the one making the claim..

 

[Care4all]

So we should count illegals too? They are inhabitants.

For the purpose of an accurate census...yes.
Isn't that what the Constitution calls for?

Tourists are inhabitants too. Do we count them?

It's generally assumed that tourists are not residents.

Why can’t non citizens be as well? Their stay is also unpredictable

Because they are residents. Should we also stop counting people over the age of 80?

Tourists are residents. Albeit short term.

Not certain about vacationers from abroad or Canada or Mexico etc...

You have to reside in a state permanently.... vacationers/tourists are not counted.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So we should count illegals too? They are inhabitants.

For the purpose of an accurate census...yes.
Isn't that what the Constitution calls for?

Tourists are inhabitants too. Do we count them?

It's generally assumed that tourists are not residents.

Why can’t non citizens be as well? Their stay is also unpredictable

Because they are residents. Should we also stop counting people over the age of 80?

Tourists are residents. Albeit short term.

Nope, not even a little.

A person coming into a place with intention to establish his domicil or permanent residence, and who in consequence actually remains there. Time is not so essential as the intent, executed by making or beginning an actual establishment, though it be abandoned in a longer, or shorter period.

Not all non residents come with the intention of establishing permanent residence here. Sorry.

 

[Asclepias]

The census is supposed to aid in determining representation in Congress based on number of CITIZENS. Illegals are not citizens and thus legally should not be counted. There’s no gray area here. More bullshit from Xiden. Well on his way to Obozo and Carter depths of incompetence.

Where did you pull that out of? Are you you trying to claim they’ve been doing it all wrong since 1790?

Like I care what a proven lying asshole like you thinks. Representation is based on citizens. Illegals get ZERO say and not counted. Of course a dumbfuck like you has no problem with stuffing illegals into everything.

So...do I take it you are on record as claiming they’ve been doing it wrong since 1790?

Don’t you ever think you can speak for me asshole. Your bullshit comparison means nothing to real Americans. Illegals are not citizens and have no say. Period. You are on record as a dumbass and a liar.

Just trying to figure out what your thesis is here, maestro...clearly not in the realm of history and likely not reality either.

Like an uneducated Obozo/Xiden shill knows anything about history. Reality is where we real Americans live. Not that libtard fantasy land you inhabit. Illegals have no say. Period. And compared to you my 3 year old is Einstein.

Your competency is declining with every word you type. You seem to think that our founders were completely wrong in how the census is counted...what makes you more knowledgeable?

See post 44 to have your fantasy crushed. I will never be less competent than a liar like you. I am far more knowledgeable than you’ll ever be. Not that that’s difficult

Since you are so knowledgeable, far more than I, tell us: what does post #44 have to do with the first census?

These clowns are hopelessly undereducated. Youre not going to get a sane answer.