Noble Lies

[JakeStarkey]

Son, a tu quoque equivalency justifies neither side.

Do you understand that? Yes, the left lies all the time, but here on this Board, the far right lies even when it does not need to. We can't have those such folks representing the GOP

I promise you, punk. I am not your 'son'.

Maybe your daddy, but not your son.

Now go clean the urinals again. This time, don't use your tongue. It turns off the customers

Punk son, your lies are not part of the GOP. We won't let it be.

 

[bendog]

I'll always appreciate Kruthammer's candor on iraq's womd.

And yeah, obama lied like a champ.

 

[francoHFW]

Obama/Dem promises that Pubs and insurers have blocked are not lies, hater dupes...You live on a bs planet and are the world's joke and horror...change the channel and read something...lol

You were ALREADY paying for the health care of the poor, just in the most destructive, humiliating, and expensive way possible.

you shouldn't take drugs

aside from that

the aca took away more hci than signed up, and b/c not enough people signed up, we are going to have to pay for it through taxes

not that you care people will die b/c they lost the ins they had, your team got the win.

My team is the human race, what's your's lol...Insurers cancelled them, not ACA- they could have just changed them, and now they'll get a better policy, with NO CUTOFFS or 300k bills, bankruptcy, and losing everything.

Remain calm, nobody's dying because of ACA, but MILLIONS are being helped...

 

[Edgetho]

"Everybody lies." Dr. Gregory House

Not only is it okay to lie, but society would instantly collapse if we didn't. For an excellent illustration of what would happen, watch the movie "The Invention of Lying." And they didn't even handle defense concerns if governments stopped lying. "All warfare is based upon deception." - Sun Tzu "The Art of War." Then there's all the interpersonal stuff which have us at each other's throats if we couldn't lie any more.

Some lies are malicious, but many aren't, some are vitally important to do. Would it be nice if we all told the truth? Not really no. If you think it would, you haven't thought it through.

So now you're equating politics, INTERNAL politics with War?

Is that right?

See, that's your guys' problem, you think of yourselves as all-knowing, all-seeing, always right, superior in every way and born to lead. Therefore, anybody that disagrees with you is not an opponent but an ENEMY.

To you, politics is war.

You're not all-knowing, all-seeing or even partly right part of the time. You're just dishonest douchebags. Delusional, dishonest, lying douchebags.

Politicians owe us the truth as much as they can present it. ALWAYS.

For you to deny that, to rationalize their lies through some fucked up story of 'History Of The World' bullshit just shows that I'm right about who and what your side is.

As usual.

 

[occupied]

The biggest lies are otherwise called "traditional values", as if these things were at some point true but have been tainted and attacked by a callous and traitorous political opposition. These are the lies that hurt America the most, not some passing issue that no one will care about next year or even next week. The lie of a Christian nation, the lie of trickle down, the huge lie of how the constitution was perfect at some point.

 

[WelfareQueen]

No Dems lie more. It started under Clinton and has accelerated. Obama lies so much it is really all he knows. To Dems, the ends justify the means. Lying has become standard operating procedure.

One word. Nixon.

Another word. Projection.

One word: Bullshit.

Another word: Sublimation.

 

[WelfareQueen]

"Everybody lies." Dr. Gregory House

Not only is it okay to lie, but society would instantly collapse if we didn't. For an excellent illustration of what would happen, watch the movie "The Invention of Lying." And they didn't even handle defense concerns if governments stopped lying. "All warfare is based upon deception." - Sun Tzu "The Art of War." Then there's all the interpersonal stuff which have us at each other's throats if we couldn't lie any more.

Some lies are malicious, but many aren't, some are vitally important to do. Would it be nice if we all told the truth? Not really no. If you think it would, you haven't thought it through.

Nice rationalization. There are lies....damn lies....and then there is Obama. Learn the difference.

 

[WelfareQueen]

The biggest lies are otherwise called "traditional values", as if these things were at some point true but have been tainted and attacked by a callous and traitorous political opposition. These are the lies that hurt America the most, not some passing issue that no one will care about next year or even next week. The lie of a Christian nation, the lie of trickle down, the huge lie of how the constitution was perfect at some point.

You are a deeply depressed dude.

 

[occupied]

The biggest lies are otherwise called "traditional values", as if these things were at some point true but have been tainted and attacked by a callous and traitorous political opposition. These are the lies that hurt America the most, not some passing issue that no one will care about next year or even next week. The lie of a Christian nation, the lie of trickle down, the huge lie of how the constitution was perfect at some point.

You are a deeply depressed dude.

Living in a country full of unaware serfs who are obedient to the tired old patriotic/religious line of bullshit that will make a poor person love the callous rich and send their children off to die in useless wars will do that to a person.

 

[OKTexas]

politicians from both parties lie and lie more than they tell the truth.

The 2 party system is the problem.

People believe they actually have choice but then again the choice between death by hanging or death by lethal injection isn't really much of a choice either now is it?

No the problem is allowing politicians to raise money on lies, that's fraud plain and simple and they should be prosecuted for it.

 

[Antares]

Obama/Dem promises that Pubs and insurers have blocked are not lies, hater dupes...You live on a bs planet and are the world's joke and horror...change the channel and read something...lol

You were ALREADY paying for the health care of the poor, just in the most destructive, humiliating, and expensive way possible.

you shouldn't take drugs

aside from that

the aca took away more hci than signed up, and b/c not enough people signed up, we are going to have to pay for it through taxes

not that you care people will die b/c they lost the ins they had, your team got the win.

My team is the human race, what's your's lol...Insurers cancelled them, not ACA- they could have just changed them, and now they'll get a better policy, with NO CUTOFFS or 300k bills, bankruptcy, and losing everything.

Remain calm, nobody's dying because of ACA, but MILLIONS are being helped...

Profound stupidity as to how the system works.....and no, they are not getting better insurance....nor is it less expensive.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Edgetho and the other foaming far righters believe they are ". . . all-knowing, all-seeing, always right, superior in every way and born to lead. " They sound as silly as the far left.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Obama/Dem promises that Pubs and insurers have blocked are not lies, hater dupes...You live on a bs planet and are the world's joke and horror...change the channel and read something...lol

You were ALREADY paying for the health care of the poor, just in the most destructive, humiliating, and expensive way possible.

you shouldn't take drugs

aside from that

the aca took away more hci than signed up, and b/c not enough people signed up, we are going to have to pay for it through taxes

not that you care people will die b/c they lost the ins they had, your team got the win.

My team is the human race, what's your's lol...Insurers cancelled them, not ACA- they could have just changed them, and now they'll get a better policy, with NO CUTOFFS or 300k bills, bankruptcy, and losing everything.

Remain calm, nobody's dying because of ACA, but MILLIONS are being helped...

Speaking of lying.

goddamn francis, get off the crack long enough to do some simple research.

 

[JakeStarkey]

franco is telling the truth in that "Insurers cancelled them, not ACA- they could have just changed them," and Two Thumbs again is lying through his butt.

 

[Antares]

franco is telling the truth in that "Insurers cancelled them, not ACA- they could have just changed them," and Two Thumbs again is lying through his butt.

So I was right, you ARE related to franco.

You are at least just as stupid as he is.

Tell us how they could have "just changed them".

 

[francoHFW]

36-They could have improved them to conform, dumbass insurer scumbag drone lol. Give me a Dem lie- ANYONE. Here's a Pub lie, repeated endlessly- ''Dems had total control his first 2 years'', or ''Obama's policies have ruined the economy for five years''- when Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/2010- jobs act, infrastructure bills etc etc- just phony scandals and crises- 0.6 growth cut every time...Pub dupes...a world joke and horror...

 

[whitehall]

Good point. You have to consider that the federal government doesn't have the power to promote "noble lies" or any other lies. The only way governments, including Nazi regimes and Stalinist empires, get to engage in "noble lies" is when the media cooperates in the sham. NBC's Dan Rather should be doing time in federal prison for trying to influence a presidential election with fake documents but he is making about 50k in speaking engagements.

 

[Antares]

36-They could have improved them to conform, dumbass insurer scumbag drone lol. Give me a Dem lie- ANYONE. Here's a Pub lie, repeated endlessly- ''Dems had total control his first 2 years'', or ''Obama's policies have ruined the economy for five years''- when Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/2010- jobs act, infrastructure bills etc etc- just phony scandals and crises- 0.6 growth cut every time...Pub dupes...a world joke and horror...

Do tell franco...what is the procedure for an insurer to get permission to sell a plan in any given state?

 

[francoHFW]

Rather's story was true, nonetheless....lol. It's amazing the power of the RW propaganda machine, while they get away with murder, lying and bs spin nonstop. The power of big money and pure scumbags...

 

[francoHFW]

36-They could have improved them to conform, dumbass insurer scumbag drone lol. Give me a Dem lie- ANYONE. Here's a Pub lie, repeated endlessly- ''Dems had total control his first 2 years'', or ''Obama's policies have ruined the economy for five years''- when Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/2010- jobs act, infrastructure bills etc etc- just phony scandals and crises- 0.6 growth cut every time...Pub dupes...a world joke and horror...

Do tell franco...what is the procedure for an insurer to get permission to sell a plan in any given state?

Those poor insurers, have no choice but to screw everyone possible, at great profit, of course...It can be done, according to everyone but scumbag insurers and Pubs, and their idiot dupes. Their reign of terror in health care is about over...