"Not many people believe Trump is healthy enough, physically or mentally, to serve as president."

[Dante]

Many of "us" never thought Trump was fit to be President. Many thought the same about Biden, or Obama. "W." didn't look good, either, and proved to be terrible. The duopoly doesn't care about being fit, it cares about being able to manipulate situations so as to maintain its fatal stranglehold on control.

Lie: "Many thought the same about Biden, or Obama" during the races nobody was screaming about the mental instability of either.

 

[Papageorgio]

If Biden was healthy and fit, so is Trump. Pot meet kettle, tired of the double standard BS.

 

[citygator]

He looks fine to ... . me?

 

[citygator]

Wait.. he looks better here missing 3 putts 5 feet to the left... in his defense he's been taking 10ft gimmes for 50 years so its been a while since he putted.

 

[Seymour Flops]

2020 - who won?

Watch people being proposed/appointed by Trump being asked to testify to that in Congressional hearings


It's a laughfest


People on your side are afraid to answer simple questions, but will run with silliness of gender politics and otehr weird shit

btw, did you Believe FOX and Tucker when they lied to you while laughing at your gullibility and stupidness? Of course you did.

Now stop with attempts to play like this.

So you do understand that a majority of American voters in 2024 disagreed with whoever ABC and the NYT selected for their polls.

 

[there4eyeM]

Lie: "Many thought the same about Biden, or Obama" during the races nobody was screaming about the mental instability of either.

Obviously, since this was no lie, you simply don't understand who was "us".

 

[Dante]

So you do understand that a majority of American voters in 2024 disagreed with whoever ABC and the NYT selected for their polls.

Eligible voters every presidential election year:

2008: Popular vote 69,498,516 - 59,948,323 Turnout 61.6%
2012: Popular vote 65,915,795 - 60,933,504 Turnout 58.6%
2016: Popular vote 62,984,828 - 65,853,514 Turnout 60.1%
2020: Popular vote 81,283,501 - 74,223,975 Turnout 66.6%
2024: Popular vote 77,302,580 - 75,017,613 Turnout 64.1

Turnout was 66.6% of eligible voters

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please try and keep up

Trump wins 2024: - 312 - 226- popular vote 49.9% LOL


Biden wins 2020: - 306 - 232 - popular vote 51.3%

Trump wins 2016: - 304 - 227 - popular vote 46.1%

Obama wins 2012: - 332 - 206 - popular vote 51.1%

Obama wins 2008: - 365 - 173 - popular vote 52.9%

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[citygator]

Mentioned many times.

 

[dudmuck]

Prove it, Tin Foil Hat Boi.

In July 2025, the White House announced that President Donald Trump, then 79, was diagnosed with Chronic Venous Insufficiency (CVI), a common vascular condition causing mild lower leg swelling.

today he says he "loves salt"

 

[Seymour Flops]

Eligible voters every presidential election year:

2008: Popular vote 69,498,516 - 59,948,323 Turnout 61.6%
2012: Popular vote 65,915,795 - 60,933,504 Turnout 58.6%
2016: Popular vote 62,984,828 - 65,853,514 Turnout 60.1%
2020: Popular vote 81,283,501 - 74,223,975 Turnout 66.6%
2024: Popular vote 77,302,580 - 75,017,613 Turnout 64.1

Turnout was 66.6% of eligible voters

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please try and keep up

Trump wins 2024: - 312 - 226- popular vote 49.9% LOL


Biden wins 2020: - 306 - 232 - popular vote 51.3%

Trump wins 2016: - 304 - 227 - popular vote 46.1%

Obama wins 2012: - 332 - 206 - popular vote 51.1%

Obama wins 2008: - 365 - 173 - popular vote 52.9%

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Really?

All that to draw a distinction between people who are registered to vote and people who actually vote?

I specified voter, not people registered to vote. those who are registered to vote and choose not to vote choose to marginalize themselves just as people who choose to vote for a third party has some kind of silly protest marginalized themselves.

Again, the majority of voters disagreed with ABC and New York Times' carefully selected poll responders.

 

[Nostra]

In July 2025, the White House announced that President Donald Trump, then 79, was diagnosed with Chronic Venous Insufficiency (CVI), a common vascular condition causing mild lower leg swelling.

today he says he "loves salt"

I was talking about your claim they lied about him going to the dentist. WTF would I be concerned about some lower leg swelling, Simp?

 

[g5000]

I recommend that NYT interview of Tucker that dropped a day or two ago.

I watched that video the day it dropped.

When the reporter asked Carlson about negative things he said about Trump in the past, Carlson immediately denied he had said them, and this required the NYT to insert videos of Carlson saying those very things.

Tucker lies. And he lies some more. And he continues to lie, and will probably always lie.

He even had to admit in court that anyone who watches his show should know he lies.

 

[Dante]

Really?

All that to draw a distinction between people who are registered to vote and people who actually vote?

I specified voter, not people registered to vote. those who are registered to vote and choose not to vote choose to marginalize themselves just as people who choose to vote for a third party has some kind of silly protest marginalized themselves.

Again, the majority of voters disagreed with ABC and New York Times' carefully selected poll responders.

See?

Again, you have serious issues with reading and comprehension. The distinction laid out is not between "people who are registered to vote and people who actually vote," but between eligible voters and those who shop at the polls.

Class begins: "Why is that important?"

It's important because when people claim they have a mandate, or claim that a majority of Americans support them we need to look seriously at those claims. And what does a hard look show?

Obama won 2008 with 52.9% of the popular vote

Turnout	61.6%

Obama won 2012 with 51.1% of the popular vote

Turnout	58.6%

Trump won 2016 with 46.1% of the popular vote

Turnout	60.1%

Biden won 2020 with 51.3% of the popular vote

Turnout	66.6%

Trump won 2024 with 49.9% of the popular vote

Turnout	64.1%