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It is about being the best one can be. Why settle for being the worst?.....that's just it!!! we are programmed not to meet the ideal...trying to meet the ideal is ''anti-human''
what's the ideal?? not be human?
Believers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.that's just it again!! belief is not factsIf you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.it's not the law from god?Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.but god can't be proven = Torah can't be provenTorah. More or less.what law?Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
It exists.
Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
hahahahahahha--but you are responding to itBelievers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.that's just it again!! belief is not factsIf you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.it's not the law from god?Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.but god can't be proven = Torah can't be provenTorah. More or less.what law?Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
It exists.
Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
Exactly...everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
so
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
Well. now I know your angle. So don't be surprised if I stop.hahahahahahha--but you are responding to itBelievers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.that's just it again!! belief is not factsIf you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.it's not the law from god?Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.but god can't be proven = Torah can't be provenTorah. More or less.what law?Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
It exists.
Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
why do you sin? can you stop yourself from sinning? isn't it ''natural'' to sin?Well. now I know your angle. So don't be surprised if I stop.hahahahahahha--but you are responding to itBelievers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.that's just it again!! belief is not factsIf you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.it's not the law from god?Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.but god can't be proven = Torah can't be provenTorah. More or less.what law?Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
It exists.
Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
ok, then what's the difference?so
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
You left out a bunch...everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Sin has a Biblical definition. You believe some sins are CRIMES, but you're too damn stupid on the subject to even be able to define sin. Your opinion is less than worthless..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
"The priests"? All priests molest children? Public school teachers molest children in far greater numbers. You agree it is a sin, so why do you say sin is ok?......of all people that should know not to ''sin'' = the priests = sin---against children
..why is this?
Christians can sin; Irish Ram quoted a pertinent passage from 1 John. They can violate their own law, on which previously hung the entire law and prophets - to love God and love their neighbors (change in the priesthood - change in the law (Heb 7:12)). Is violating such a law so unnatural?why do you sin? can you stop yourself from sinning? isn't it ''natural'' to sin?Well. now I know your angle. So don't be surprised if I stop.hahahahahahha--but you are responding to itBelievers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.that's just it again!! belief is not factsIf you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.it's not the law from god?Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.but god can't be proven = Torah can't be provenTorah. More or less.what law?Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
It exists.
Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
that's what I meant when I said ''on down the line''You left out a bunch...everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Seven deadly sins list.
ok, then what's the difference?so
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
1. I don't worry about hell....I don't think I implied thatok, then what's the difference?so
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
If you don't believe in God why worry about a "hell"? Having said that, the truth is a truth whether anyone actually believes it or not.
You'll still go to hell but it will have been your choice.
1. I don't worry about hell....I don't think I implied thatok, then what's the difference?so
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
If you don't believe in God why worry about a "hell"? Having said that, the truth is a truth whether anyone actually believes it or not.
You'll still go to hell but it will have been your choice.
2.so if I don't believe in sin, I will still sin and go to hell?
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
perhaps not during ones youth though at some point in a persons life they will make a decision to stop sinning or let that continue that defines the rest of their life - maybe there is not a time being to late to change and maybe there isn't...everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''