no such thing as ''sin'''

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.....some people just prove to be jackasses..they can't discuss civilly--which proves they don't have an argument
hahahahhahah
 

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.....that's just it!!! we are programmed not to meet the ideal...trying to meet the ideal is ''anti-human''
what's the ideal?? not be human?
It is about being the best one can be. Why settle for being the worst?
 

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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
If you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.

Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
that's just it again!! belief is not facts
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
Believers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.

If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
 
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so
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?
 
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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
If you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.

Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
that's just it again!! belief is not facts
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
Believers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.

If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
hahahahahahha--but you are responding to it
 

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
Exactly.
 

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so
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
 

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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
If you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.

Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
that's just it again!! belief is not facts
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
Believers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.

If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
hahahahahahha--but you are responding to it
Well. now I know your angle. So don't be surprised if I stop.
 
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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
If you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.

Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
that's just it again!! belief is not facts
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
Believers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.

If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
hahahahahahha--but you are responding to it
Well. now I know your angle. So don't be surprised if I stop.
why do you sin? can you stop yourself from sinning? isn't it ''natural'' to sin?
 
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so
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
ok, then what's the difference?
 
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......of all people that should know not to ''sin'' = the priests = sin---against children
..why is this?
 

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
You left out a bunch.
Seven deadly sins list.
  1. Lust
  2. Gluttony
  3. Greed
  4. Sloth
  5. Wrath
  6. Envy
  7. Pride
 

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Sin has a Biblical definition. You believe some sins are CRIMES, but you're too damn stupid on the subject to even be able to define sin. Your opinion is less than worthless
 

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......of all people that should know not to ''sin'' = the priests = sin---against children
..why is this?
"The priests"? All priests molest children? Public school teachers molest children in far greater numbers. You agree it is a sin, so why do you say sin is ok?
 

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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
If you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.

Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
that's just it again!! belief is not facts
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
Believers believe that they are God's children. They can offend God.

If you're not a part of that household, you do not offend the Father. You started a meaningless thread.
hahahahahahha--but you are responding to it
Well. now I know your angle. So don't be surprised if I stop.
why do you sin? can you stop yourself from sinning? isn't it ''natural'' to sin?
Christians can sin; Irish Ram quoted a pertinent passage from 1 John. They can violate their own law, on which previously hung the entire law and prophets - to love God and love their neighbors (change in the priesthood - change in the law (Heb 7:12)). Is violating such a law so unnatural?

I am not one of the sinners that the epistles speak of, however. I don't worship idols; keeping the first of those two commands IOW, is very easy.
 
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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
You left out a bunch.
Seven deadly sins list.
  1. Lust
  2. Gluttony
  3. Greed
  4. Sloth
  5. Wrath
  6. Envy
  7. Pride
that's what I meant when I said ''on down the line''
 

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so
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
ok, then what's the difference?
If you don't believe in God why worry about a "hell"? Having said that, the truth is a truth whether anyone actually believes it or not.
You'll still go to hell but it will have been your choice.
 
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so
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
ok, then what's the difference?
If you don't believe in God why worry about a "hell"? Having said that, the truth is a truth whether anyone actually believes it or not.
You'll still go to hell but it will have been your choice.
1. I don't worry about hell....I don't think I implied that
2.so if I don't believe in sin, I will still sin and go to hell?
 

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so
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
so non-believers don't have to worry about going to hell if they sin?
Is that what I said? I's not what you asked.
ok, then what's the difference?
If you don't believe in God why worry about a "hell"? Having said that, the truth is a truth whether anyone actually believes it or not.
You'll still go to hell but it will have been your choice.
1. I don't worry about hell....I don't think I implied that
2.so if I don't believe in sin, I will still sin and go to hell?
Yup. Your disbelief does not save you from what God has ordained.
 

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
perhaps not during ones youth though at some point in a persons life they will make a decision to stop sinning or let that continue that defines the rest of their life - maybe there is not a time being to late to change and maybe there isn't.

the Everlasting is for the pure at heart and nothing less.
 

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