no such thing as ''sin'''

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
 

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Sin equates to missing the ideal, something we are all prone to do. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to meet the ideal in whatever it is we are doing.
 

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God begs to differ:
1 John 1:8-10 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
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Sin equates to missing the ideal, something we are all prone to do. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to meet the ideal in whatever it is we are doing.
.....that's just it!!! we are programmed not to meet the ideal...trying to meet the ideal is ''anti-human''
what's the ideal?? not be human?
 
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God begs to differ:
1 John 1:8-10 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
so you quote the bible?!!
yes or no--we all ''sin''?
we lost and need/love food?
 

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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
 

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
FFS youre an idiot,,,



gluttony is to over eat not just eat,,,and it goes far beyond just food,,,
 

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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
If you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.

Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
 
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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
FFS youre an idiot,,,



gluttony is to over eat not just eat,,,and it goes far beyond just food,,,
AGAIN!! you prove 'my point!! ...you can't even discuss civilly/politely = you
just SINNED
Definition of wrath
(Entry 1 of 2)
1: strong vengeful anger or indignation
 

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
FFS youre an idiot,,,



gluttony is to over eat not just eat,,,and it goes far beyond just food,,,
AGAIN!! you prove 'my point!! ...you can't even discuss civilly/politely = you
just SINNED
Definition of wrath
(Entry 1 of 2)
1: strong vengeful anger or indignation
at least I was correct,,,you not so much,,,
 
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Sin is a violation of the law. It's idolatry.
what law?
Torah. More or less.

The command in the Garden not to eat the fruit of another was also law, though not Torah.
but god can't be proven = Torah can't be proven
Actually, Torah is in black and white. People have been reading it for centuries.

It exists.
it's not the law from god?
If you're not a believer, you're outside the bounds of the playing field.

Sin doesn't concern you, and we will never resolve this discussion.
that's just it again!! belief is not facts
I know it doesn't concern me--I don't sin....neither does anyone else
..but I thought religious teachings say anyone who sins will go to hell, etc??
 
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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
FFS youre an idiot,,,



gluttony is to over eat not just eat,,,and it goes far beyond just food,,,
great input to the discussion
 

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..everyone '''sins'''..it's natural ..it's natural for humans to do
it's not wrong to '''sin''
1. Lust---if you don't lust as a man, you're not a man..this is so natural to do
2. Gluttony--if we don't eat--we die ..one of the biggest subjects/pastimes/etc is food:
Superbowl games = FOOD
Thanksgiving and Christmas = FOOD
food festivals/etc
etc on down the line--''''sinning'' is what humans do naturally
Depends on whether one is asking from a secular or Christian standpoint.
 

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