No Retreat On The Government Choosing Your Doctor

Flanders

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CLARIFICATION: I was not sure if I should post this thread in the Healthcare forum, the Congress forum, or the Race Relations forum. I chose the latter.

Democrats lied like hell to ram the ACA through. Democrats now have to top the original lies in order to save their disaster. Every lie in the new round of lies will be rooted in Schumer’s opening salvo: “Repeal the ACA will make America sick again.”


VIDEO

Make America Great Again vs Make America Sick Again

NOTE: If you watched the video did you notice that Typhoid Nancy looks a lot more haggard today than she looked when she was bubbling over with excitement:



Regardless of the lies coming down the pike the entire opposition to repeal comes down to Democrats never agreeing to Americans keeping their doctors. Repealing the ACA allows Americans to choose their own doctors. That is the one battle Democrats will fight to stop no matter what happens to their party. When black racists claim repealing the ACA will make America sick again they mean repeal will make them sick again:

In July 2009 Barack Taqiyya said this:​

If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.​

The entire pack of Democrat liars led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in Congress said the same thing, or they simply pooh-poohed the notion that Americans would lose their Right to choose their own doctors. I knew that Barack Taqiyya was lying when he first said it in doublespeak. He said you could “KEEP” your own doctor. He never said you could “CHOOSE” your own doctor when you change doctors, or choose a doctor for the first time. Nor did he say you could choose your own specialist if you need one.

Here is a sample of black racism Barack Taqiyya does not want to talk about:​

As far back 1993 then-first lady Hillary Clinton tried to turn healthcare into an affirmative action program. Indeed, she was labeled the smartest woman in the world for figuring out how to do it. Democrat healthcare proposals always encompassed a way to force white patients to go to black doctors.

The ACA (Affordable Care Act) succeeds in turning healthcare into a government-run HMO enforcing affirmative action. White Americans pick their doctor from a list supplied by the government or they go without treatment. Americans who can afford it cannot go around the system by paying their doctor of choice because doctors will be will held criminally liable if they accept patients outside the system. That’s affirmative action racism with a gun.

Now comes the good part:​

In a survey by a top research firm, six in 10 physicians said it is likely many doctors will retire earlier than planned in the next one to three years.

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. . . Dr. Jane Orient, was not surprised.

She told WND that doctors already have started leaving the profession through early retirement. Among those who remain, some will seek alternatives to what they see coming in the federal government’s takeover of health care.

“I think it’s a disaster for patients,” she said. “They may lose the doctor they relied on all their lives.”​

Obamacare has doctors planning exit
60% say many physicians will retire from medicine early within next 3 years
Published: 7/19/2013 at 8:08 pm
BOB UNRUH

Obamacare has doctors planning exit

Forcing white doctors out of medicine is exactly what Barack Taqiyya wants because it speeds up affirmative action. No matter that ill-trained, incompetent, blacks will be rushed through medical schools to fill the void. Forcing white Americans to see black doctors is all that matters.

Democrat compassion for the ill and the disfranchised is a myth. Know this about the ACA and black racism. Ambitious blacks joining limousine liberals at the public trough is the goal. Neither poor blacks, nor poor whites, will benefit from affirmative action under the ACA. Proof: The same number of Americans, or more, who were uninsured before the ACA will remain uninsured in addition to lowering the quality of patient care all Americans had before Democrats forced the ACA on the country. And that’s without getting into death panels.

Incidentally, blacks constitute approximately 13 percent of the population. Ambitious blacks feeding at the public trough constitute 3 or 4 percent of the 13 percent. In short: A very few blacks exercise an extraordinary amount of influence over America’s domestic and foreign policies, yet they never stop whining about white racism. I can understand a poor black’s position. I sure as hell will not believe a word ambitious race hustlers say.

Finally, talking about racism is the rule of the day thanks to Barack Taqiyya who hinted at racism in the Zimmerman case. He had to hint because he had no proof. To compensate for a lack of proof he made yet another pathetic attempt to set himself up as the nation’s spiritual leader. He not only failed he looked silly for trying. Now, let’s try this bit of silliness:

Barack Taqiyya and a number of people in his administration are half white and half black. Did anyone ever consider this: Half breeds are stirring up hatred between blacks and whites for their own benefit. They certainly try to give the impression that they are fair and balanced judges of racism. Even though they are half white they always come out against white racism while never admitting that black racism exists. I can say that with certainty because whites rolled over for blacks countless times in the second half of the twentieth century, while black racism continues to grow more militant.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/race-relations-racism/304073-let-s-talk-aca-racism.html

I will close with a question about the funniest lie a Democrat ever told: Did the sister get a new set of false teeth after 6 years of Obamacare?

 
Flanders is merely posting the old pharma and health insurance industry "we have a right to get rich of sick people" mantra.

It was wrong in 2010, and it is wrong now.

Come on, Pubs, get a better program up and running that takes care of all Americans better than ACA.
 
Flanders is merely posting the old pharma and health insurance industry "we have a right to get rich of sick people" mantra.
To JakeStarkey: Double your daily dosage of asshole medication. It is the ACA that enriched insurance companies, big pharma —— AND WALL STREET —— beyond their wildest dreams.
 
Flanders is merely posting the old pharma and health insurance industry "we have a right to get rich of sick people" mantra.
To JakeStarkey: Double your daily dosage of asshole medication. It is the ACA that enriched insurance companies, big pharma —— AND WALL STREET —— beyond their wildest dreams.
The truth hurts, Flanders. You were told that the health insurance industry would not be harmed, when you and your dolts were saying "this will destroy the health insurance companies." Dolts.
 
You were told that the health insurance industry would not be harmed, when you and your dolts were saying "this will destroy the health insurance companies."
To JakeStarkey: Nice misdirection. The fact remains. Insurance companies raked in hundreds of billions of dollars in every year; billions they would not have received without the ACA not to mention the damage Obamacare did to the best healthcare system in the world.

And it is Democrats who refused to include insurance industry competition in their punishing law. Nutso Nancy said “We have to pass it to find out what is in it.” but she sure as hell knew that competition was not in it.

It is Trump & Company who will see that insurance companies compete across state lines.
 
The fact remains that the health insurance industry was not harmed.

You have a great point on bidding competition. Those few remaining conservative Democrats were in the insurance industry's pocket. So let's see if the Pubs can get competitive bidding. Many Pubs are going to fight against that, as you well know.

Let's see if the Pubs will go with inter-state competition over state lines. Once again, many Pubs will resist.
 
Flanders is merely posting the old pharma and health insurance industry "we have a right to get rich of sick people" mantra.
To JakeStarkey: Double your daily dosage of asshole medication. It is the ACA that enriched insurance companies, big pharma —— AND WALL STREET —— beyond their wildest dreams.
why such anger ned
 
The fact remains that the health insurance industry was not harmed.
To JakeStarkey: Only if you are an executive in an insurance company, or an absentee owner investing on Wall Street.
Insurance companies raked in hundreds of billions of dollars in every year; billions they would not have received without the ACA
You have a great point on bidding competition. Those few remaining conservative Democrats were in the insurance industry's pocket. So let's see if the Pubs can get competitive bidding. Many Pubs are going to fight against that, as you well know.
To JakeStarkey: Conservatives had no input in Hillarycare II when Democrats were in charge. Now Democrats are demanded that Trump repeal and REPLACE with a comprehensive BIPARTISAN law. Note that media mouths are pushing the same line. In fact, Republicans owe Democrats nothing. Conservatives should insist on one issue laws. Example: Competitive bidding across state lines should be written as a clear one-page law instead of another omnibus monstrosity.

Incidentally, Americans from both parties who post on Twitter and Facebook should send Schumer a question: What would Democrats have done to fix the ACA had Hillary Clinton won the election?

Let's see if the Pubs will go with inter-state competition over state lines. Once again, many Pubs will resist.
To JakeStarkey: You got that right if you are talking about Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

Ryan has already said the ACA will be "replaced" over two or three years. That will give Republicans and Democrats time to save it with different language.

 
Flanders generally does not get it, and many like him deliberately don't get most of it.

But your last sentences are correct. The government program will continue under another name.
 
Flanders generally does not get it, and many like him deliberately don't get most of it.
To JakeStarkey: You and people like you are too stupid to get it. I, and people like me, know enough not to believe the parasite bullshit you spout.
But your last sentences are correct. The government program will continue under another name.
To JakeStarkey: You are too stupid to get the difference between conservatives and Republicans. You obviously want Democrats to salvage as much of Hillarycare II as they can sneak into bipartisan legislation. The question is: Do you get this? If Democrats were truthful the placard would say: Make American stay sick:

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Flanders continues to flop around. :lol:

The political dynamic now requires a bi-partisan restructuring of ACA.

No, government programs as such are not going to go away.
 
The political dynamic now requires a bi-partisan restructuring of ACA.
Democrats are demanding that Trump repeal and REPLACE with a comprehensive BIPARTISAN law. Note that media mouths are pushing the same line.
To JakeStarkey: Do not double your daily dosage of asshole medication. TRIPLE IT! You will need it when congressional Republicans and Democrats feel the blowback.

Repealing ObamaCare’s taxes would mean that there is far less money available to pay for a plan. Republicans are considering keeping some taxes in place, though that idea is drawing blowback from conservatives who want to repeal the whole law.​

GOP won't promise ObamaCare fix will cover all
By Peter Sullivan - 01/05/17 05:44 PM EST

GOP won't promise ObamaCare fix will cover all

In English that even you can understand. Productive Americans do not want to feed the parasite class with tax dollars —— least of all satiate parasites with socialized medicine that punishes everybody else.
 
Your type, Flanders, is a very small and unimportant political group in America.

20mm have ACA coverage. Take that away and watch the wreckage in the next election.

The freedom caucus will oppose any restructuring tooth and nail, thus Ryan will go to Pelosi and play "Let's Make A Deal."

Inevitable.
 
Your type, Flanders, is a very small and unimportant political group in America.
To JakeStarkey: Did anyone tell you that conservatism’s ideology creamed Hillary Clinton?
20mm have ACA coverage. Take that away and watch the wreckage in the next election.
To JakeStarkey: There is not a chance the American people will go back to the Democrat party so they can complete the country’s destruction.

According to a new Gallup poll, Americans everywhere are still not too fond of the government reaching sizes more untrustworthy than it already is. This number isn’t small, either. Gallup says that big government is the number one fear for 67 percent of Americans.

As businessman Donald Trump prepares to become the nation’s 45th president, Americans continue to express more concern about the threat big government poses to the U.S. than big business or big labor. Two in three Americans (67%) identify big government as the country’s biggest threat. That is below the record high of 72% in 2013 but still on the higher end of the range since the mid-1960s.

It’s peak in 2013 was due to the passage of laws such as the Affordable Care Act.​

Majority of Americans still consider big government our number one threat
Brandon Morse Jan 5, 2017 6:20 pm

Majority of Americans still consider big government our number one threat

Regardless of Gallup, establishment Republicans do have one choice. Appease Democrat parasites who will not vote for Republicans under any circumstance, or lose conservatives in the 2014 nominating process. In short: Failure to repeal Hillarycare II next month gives conservatives time to replace establishment Republicans with conservatives in 2014 without losing either chamber.
The freedom caucus will oppose any restructuring tooth and nail, thus Ryan will go to Pelosi and play "Let's Make A Deal."
To JakeStarkey: Republicans and Democrats making backroom deals transcends the ACA. Less than 60 days ago American voters demonstrated they want a deal of their making. Democrats have nothing to lose, but woe to Ryan/McConnell Republicans who fail to heed the message.
 
Flanders, ultra conservatism did nothing.

Trump won because the white working class of the upper Midwest felt it was not getting its fair share of the American pie, not because of ideology.

Make the ACA replacement more affordable, and the American public will be happy indeed.

Only a matter of time before single payer becomes the reality.
 

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