No one white today owned slaves but most whites today benefitted from the 100 years after slavery.

[Unkotare]

If the majority of students of a university are white they are not being discriminated against in admissions.

All it takes is 50.1% whites, even though whites are more than 50.1% of the population? LOL!

To make an honest assessment, you'd have to look at white applicants at a certain test score, black applicants at the same score and compare acceptance rates of those equivalent students.

Wrong. Test scores have been shown to be inaccurate indicators of college qualification. That's why any colleges are now saying tests are optional.

What should be used?
GPA?

Go read the studies. The claim of anti white discrimination is bogus.

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their actual test scores, who loses that college slot?

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

This is illogical.

 

[Unkotare]

...

I know plenty of brothers who have degrees too. I see one every morning when I look in the mirror when I brush my teeth.

Standing right behind you? You gotta get a bigger place.

You might want to not do this again considering you got called a racial slur elsewhere and now you do the same things they do.

What have I done?

 

[IM2]

Wrong. Test scores have been shown to be inaccurate indicators of college qualification. That's why any colleges are now saying tests are optional.

What should be used?
GPA?

Go read the studies. The claim of anti white discrimination is bogus.

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their actual test scores, who loses that college slot?

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

 

[IM2]

Wrong. Test scores have been shown to be inaccurate indicators of college qualification. That's why any colleges are now saying tests are optional.

What should be used?
GPA?

Go read the studies. The claim of anti white discrimination is bogus.

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their actual test scores, who loses that college slot?

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

This is illogical.

No it is not. But what you and the other whites don't seem to get is that the white skin carries preferences that add up for them they never have to consider.

 

[IM2]

...

I know plenty of brothers who have degrees too. I see one every morning when I look in the mirror when I brush my teeth.

Standing right behind you? You gotta get a bigger place.

You might want to not do this again considering you got called a racial slur elsewhere and now you do the same things they do.

What have I done?

Don't play dumb.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What should be used?
GPA?

Go read the studies. The claim of anti white discrimination is bogus.

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their actual test scores, who loses that college slot?

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

 

[IM2]

Go read the studies. The claim of anti white discrimination is bogus.

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their actual test scores, who loses that college slot?

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

 

[Montrovant]

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

You've said this a few times. Is there specific research you are referencing when you say it? I apologize if you previously mentioned the research and I missed it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their actual test scores, who loses that college slot?

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

None of this is true.

Perhaps you can post proof it's untrue?

Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There are plenty of smart minorities who get good grades and high test scores.
It's the ones who don't, and get in anyway, that cause concern.

 

[Mudda]

...

I know plenty of brothers who have degrees too. I see one every morning when I look in the mirror when I brush my teeth.

Standing right behind you? You gotta get a bigger place.

You might want to not do this again considering you got called a racial slur elsewhere and now you do the same things they do.

What have I done?

Don't play dumb.

He can't help it.

 

[Mudda]

US blacks are LUCKY that slavery happened, otherwise they'd all still be in Africa.

 

[IM2]

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There are plenty of smart minorities who get good grades and high test scores.
It's the ones who don't, and get in anyway, that cause concern.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

And for how many years did white men who were not smart enough and could not get good test scores got allowed into colleges while non whites couldn't? Do you not think that impacts how things are now? Or is it that most of todays CEOS and our President don't exist.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their actual test scores, who loses that college slot?

If blacks are getting a huge bump added to their test scores then its apparent whites already had the points before the test was taken..

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

None of this is true.

Perhaps you can post proof it's untrue?

 

[Mudda]

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There are plenty of smart minorities who get good grades and high test scores.
It's the ones who don't, and get in anyway, that cause concern.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

And for how many years did white men who were not smart enough and could not get good test scores got allowed into colleges while non whites couldn't? Do you not think that impacts how things are now? Or is it that most of todays CEOS and our President don't exist.

Quit you're whining, we gave you affirmative action to get into universities that white people built. And you had a dark president for the past 8 years as well. And still not satisfied. Sheesh!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, whites have much higher scores.

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There are plenty of smart minorities who get good grades and high test scores.
It's the ones who don't, and get in anyway, that cause concern.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

And for how many years did white men who were not smart enough and could not get good test scores got allowed into colleges while non whites couldn't? Do you not think that impacts how things are now? Or is it that most of todays CEOS and our President don't exist.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

They do exist.

 

[IM2]

US blacks are LUCKY that slavery happened, otherwise they'd all still be in Africa.

This thread is not about slavery. I reported your post and from this point on will report every post you make like this which is not on topic or attempting to discuss the thread topic to the administrators.

 

[IM2]

Then why I sall the fcus always on black

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There are plenty of smart minorities who get good grades and high test scores.
It's the ones who don't, and get in anyway, that cause concern.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

And for how many years did white men who were not smart enough and could not get good test scores got allowed into colleges while non whites couldn't? Do you not think that impacts how things are now? Or is it that most of todays CEOS and our President don't exist.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

They do exist.

Then why do you guys always want to talk about blacks who are not qualified like there are no whites not qualified admitted into college over better qualified blacks or other people of color?

 

[IM2]

No they do not. .

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There are plenty of smart minorities who get good grades and high test scores.
It's the ones who don't, and get in anyway, that cause concern.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

And for how many years did white men who were not smart enough and could not get good test scores got allowed into colleges while non whites couldn't? Do you not think that impacts how things are now? Or is it that most of todays CEOS and our President don't exist.

Quit you're whining, we gave you affirmative action to get into universities that white people built. And you had a dark president for the past 8 years as well. And still not satisfied. Sheesh!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Then why I sall the fcus always on black

Look, if there are 500 test takers and 450 of them are white who will have the majority of higher scores?

The average white scores will be higher than the average black scores.

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

Of course. People noticed blacks with much lower scores were getting in to places where whites with much higher scores were getting rejected.
AA is easier when you can hide what you're doing.

None of this is true.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings

Seven years ago, Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she believed that she was denied acceptance, not because everyone in her graduating class was smarter than her, not because they busted their butts harder than her, but because she was white. Fisher claimed that she knew people who were accepted that were less qualified than her but were accepted just because they had different skin color. That lawsuit was upheld in 2009 by a federal district court who rejected it. After that Fisher appealed to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which agreed with the prior ruling.

For just one second, let’s forget that the University of Texas’ admission rate is 40 percent and that it’s on record only 5 people of color with grades worse than her were accepted and 42 white people with grades worse than her were accepted from her class that year. Let’s forget that there were 168 Black and Latino students who got the same grades or even better grades than her but were denied admission. Let’s forget all of that and look at the real issue and problem with the case: Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There’s always been this rhetoric that people of color who are accepted into these schools are accepted because of their skin color due to Affirmative Action. They didn’t study for their ACTs, they didn’t get 4.0s, they weren’t involved in their high schools. They just applied and the admissions people looked at what race they were and said “She’s brown, let’s get that acceptance letter to her.” But the reality of the situation is if that spot was really yours, you would have gotten it.

Danielle Templeton, a freshman at the University of Northern Iowa graduated from high school with a 3.7 GPA and a 29 on her ACT. Her hard work was rewarded with a full-ride scholarship, to which her white classmates responded asking her if she got the scholarship because she was Indian. The high scores and finishing in the top of her class can’t possibly be the reason she was accepted right? Wrong. It’s that amount of entitlement that has led to a misunderstanding of Affirmative Action is and who it really benefits.

Blame Your Own Mediocrity, Not People of Color, For Your College Admission Shortcomings | HuffPost

What you believe is a lie. A race baited lie at that. Stop believing it.

Fisher and others refusing to believe that people of color can be smarter than them and can earn admission solely on their brain and not their skin color.

There are plenty of smart minorities who get good grades and high test scores.
It's the ones who don't, and get in anyway, that cause concern.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

And for how many years did white men who were not smart enough and could not get good test scores got allowed into colleges while non whites couldn't? Do you not think that impacts how things are now? Or is it that most of todays CEOS and our President don't exist.

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

They do exist.

Then why do you guys always want to talk about blacks who are not qualified like there are no whites not qualified admitted into college over better qualified blacks or other people of color?

How about the whites who don't and get in? Don't they exist?

Sorry, I misread. No, whites who don't have good grades and high test scores don't get in.

Then why do you guys always want to talk about blacks who are not qualified

Because adding 230 SAT points to let an unqualified person in is wrong when it keeps out a better qualified person.

like there are no whites not qualified admitted into college over better qualified blacks or other people of color?

Why would less qualified whites get in over better qualified coloreds?

 

[IM2]

But all this is a moot argument given that test scores have been invalidated as any kind of standard for student success or entry into college.

You've said this a few times. Is there specific research you are referencing when you say it? I apologize if you previously mentioned the research and I missed it.

I don't make things up.

Do ACT and SAT scores really matter? New study says they shouldn’t

A study published Tuesday that probed the success of “test-optional” admissions policies in 33 public and private universities calls into question the need for such testing.

Former Dean of Admissions for Bates College William Hiss led the study which tracked the grades and graduation rates of students who submitted their test results against those who did not over several years.

Hiss’ data showed that there was a negligible difference in college performance between the two groups. Only .05 percent of a GPA point set “submitters” and “non-submitters” apart, and the difference in their graduation rates was just .6 percent.

Do ACT and SAT scores really matter? New study says they shouldn't