No food stamps for any family of a striking worker

[The T]

GM moved to Mexico. and Detroit is a slum.

And it won't recover until the Liberal Statists are removed, and the damage can be repaired.

 

[kaz]

So a single Mom can have her food stamps taken away for trying to strike for enough pay to get off of food stamps

Give me an example of a union strike where this is a likely scenario, a woman is working, a member of the union and on food stamps

 

[The T]

Poor people aren't slaves. If they don't like the job they have, they can quit.

And starve to death...

I'd like to see your source proving that The Poor in the U.S. are starving to death.

The overwhelming evidence is that they are OBESE.

Just ask Obama and his bethroed Michelle...

 

[Avatar4321]

Sounds good to me. Union members pay dues which should be used to compensate them during strikes (as long as the strikes are legal). There is no reason why taxpayers should be footing the bill for them to protest for more money.

If I were a non union employee and I wanted more money.....I would quit if they said no....

And go hungry?

no, and find or create another job.

 

[SgtMeowenstein]

If they are IN a Union? Then that means they are payed HIGHER than those that aren't...

And YOU think this is "FAIR"? And by the reckoning? WHAT are they doing on FOOD STAMPS?

Once again, you're missing the point. And you're pretty much lying as well. Union members don't necessarily make more than private workers. It really depends. You can't make a blanket statement like that. It's just not how things work.

um yes you can make a blanket statement. Every study ever done shows that union workers make More than non union workers in the same industry.

DUH!

And I'm sure you have links to back up your claim that every union member makes more than their private sector counterparts?

 

[JBeukema]

The jobs that are going overseas are the ones that can be done with cheaper labor. Those are not by definition good-paying jobs, by American standards. Low-skill manufacturing is leaving this country unless people here start accepting third-world living standards. That's the function of a global free market.

1) We don't have a free labour market. See: immigration control

2) You assume we can't or shouldn't make it less profitable to exploit the poor around the world

1) Immigration/Immigrants should take jobs available to them without taking them from equally qualified AMERICANS

Protectionism. You don't believe in a free labour market, as you weant to exclude certain people from competing on level ground based on their nationality.

Thing One: There is no such thing as a free market
Thing Three: Most people in rich countries are paid more than they should be

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2) Why on Earth would you exploit the 'POOR'? (Unless you're Statist Democrat looking for VOTES)?

Ask the United Fruit Company or any other capitalist. One word: profit

 

[The T]

To deliberately strike in these tough economic times is NOT sacrificing for the common good of Americans.

Times were no easier when the Wobblies first began organizing the strikes that helped bring about the minimum wage and end child labour. I'd go so far as to say they were much harder.

So you are insomuch admitting that there are now LAWS against it that the Unions helped bring about.

*GOOD*

Why are there still UNIONS except as a money laundering coercion thing for POWER that favour Statist Democrats?

 

[JBeukema]

If I were a non union employee and I wanted more money.....I would quit if they said no....

And go hungry?

no, and find or create another job.

And when no other capitalist is any more eager than the last to give into your demands for the wage you desire and you don't have the capital to start a business that can compete?

 

[The T]

Once again, you're missing the point. And you're pretty much lying as well. Union members don't necessarily make more than private workers. It really depends. You can't make a blanket statement like that. It's just not how things work.

um yes you can make a blanket statement. Every study ever done shows that union workers make More than non union workers in the same industry.

DUH!

And I'm sure you have links to back up your claim that every union member makes more than their private sector counterparts?

And that...YOU have links to stake your claim?

 

[JBeukema]

you live in a fantasy world if you think Deregulation has even been tried.

The markets weren't very regulated in the first place. Hence the need for the Clean Air and Water Acts and other regulations.

 

[SgtMeowenstein]

Not surprisingly, conservatives on this board are missing the point. Or, more likely, they just don't care. Here is the language from the bill:

If any member of a family that receives food stamps goes on strike, then the entire family suffers. And you cons really think that's fair?

I think that is perfectly fair..You wanna work.Work.You wanna walk off the job and strike.Fine.Let the union take care of it's membership,dip into the union dues...

You wanna strike and collect benefits as well....Please,enuf already.

So, you're ok with an entire family being punished for the actions of one family member? I guess you won't mind paying a fine for your stupid cousin's latest DUI.

 

[SgtMeowenstein]

um yes you can make a blanket statement. Every study ever done shows that union workers make More than non union workers in the same industry.

DUH!

And I'm sure you have links to back up your claim that every union member makes more than their private sector counterparts?

And that...YOU have links to stake your claim?

I didn't make the claim. Do you know how this works? Apparently not. Your buddy made a claim. It's on him to prove it. Maybe you can do it for him, since you're so quick to jump to his defense.

 

[kaz]

Not surprisingly, conservatives on this board are missing the point. Or, more likely, they just don't care. Here is the language from the bill:

If any member of a family that receives food stamps goes on strike, then the entire family suffers. And you cons really think that's fair?

I think that is perfectly fair..You wanna work.Work.You wanna walk off the job and strike.Fine.Let the union take care of it's membership,dip into the union dues...

You wanna strike and collect benefits as well....Please,enuf already.

So, you're ok with an entire family being punished for the actions of one family member? I guess you won't mind paying a fine for your stupid cousin's latest DUI.

You're cousin's not in your family unit, dumb ass

 

[The T]

And go hungry?

no, and find or create another job.

And when no other capitalist is any more eager than the last to give into your demands for the wage you desire and you don't have the capital to start a business that can compete?

Then you take a RISK by taking out a LOAN as so many have done...OOPS! That's right...Obama and the Statists have so fucked up the economy that not many are willing to lend and take the risk because of what Obama and the Statists are doing TO the economy by their mandates....

YOU don't think these things out, do you?

 

[boedicca]

Not surprisingly, conservatives on this board are missing the point. Or, more likely, they just don't care. Here is the language from the bill:

If any member of a family that receives food stamps goes on strike, then the entire family suffers. And you cons really think that's fair?

I think that is perfectly fair..You wanna work.Work.You wanna walk off the job and strike.Fine.Let the union take care of it's membership,dip into the union dues...

You wanna strike and collect benefits as well....Please,enuf already.

So, you're ok with an entire family being punished for the actions of one family member? I guess you won't mind paying a fine for your stupid cousin's latest DUI.

No. What we're okay with is parents taking responsibility for their children and other dependents and not expecting the rest of us to foot the bill when they decide to give up income just to support the DNC.

 

[KissMy]

Then move ya shlubbz!

That answer is too easy. And I'll tell you...many *ARE* and they're moving South...because they can't take the Statism any longer where they are.

Exactly even as these unions make noise around the country, People and JOBS continue to move to right to work states.

You would think they might figure it out sooner or later. lol

They don't care to figure it out. They just want what others have. According to the US Census Unions have caused jobs & 25% of the population of Detroit to leave in less than 10 years.

 

[The T]

And I'm sure you have links to back up your claim that every union member makes more than their private sector counterparts?

And that...YOU have links to stake your claim?

I didn't make the claim. Do you know how this works? Apparently not. Your buddy made a claim. It's on him to prove it. Maybe you can do it for him, since you're so quick to jump to his defense.

Your little SNIPPET DID make a claim...

*TRY AGAIN*

 

[SgtMeowenstein]

I think that is perfectly fair..You wanna work.Work.You wanna walk off the job and strike.Fine.Let the union take care of it's membership,dip into the union dues...

You wanna strike and collect benefits as well....Please,enuf already.

So, you're ok with an entire family being punished for the actions of one family member? I guess you won't mind paying a fine for your stupid cousin's latest DUI.

You're cousin's not in your family unit, dumb ass

I'm guessing yours is your wife, cock-stain.

Yet another con who can't answer the question. Go ahead and deflect. It's what ass-hats like you do best.

 

[SgtMeowenstein]

And that...YOU have links to stake your claim?

I didn't make the claim. Do you know how this works? Apparently not. Your buddy made a claim. It's on him to prove it. Maybe you can do it for him, since you're so quick to jump to his defense.

Your little SNIPPET DID make a claim...

*TRY AGAIN*

Where is it?

 

[The T]

I think that is perfectly fair..You wanna work.Work.You wanna walk off the job and strike.Fine.Let the union take care of it's membership,dip into the union dues...

You wanna strike and collect benefits as well....Please,enuf already.

So, you're ok with an entire family being punished for the actions of one family member? I guess you won't mind paying a fine for your stupid cousin's latest DUI.

No. What we're okay with is parents taking responsibility for their children and other dependents and not expecting the rest of us to foot the bill when they decide to give up income just to support the DNC.

And it's akin to loping off their arms so they can't work and MUST be supported by the public...(Metephorically...)