No food stamps for any family of a striking worker

[The T]

Not surprisingly, conservatives on this board are missing the point. Or, more likely, they just don't care. Here is the language from the bill:

If any member of a family that receives food stamps goes on strike, then the entire family suffers. And you cons really think that's fair?

If they are IN a Union? Then that means they are payed HIGHER than those that aren't...

And YOU think this is "FAIR"? And by the reckoning? WHAT are they doing on FOOD STAMPS?

 

[KissMy]

If there were no divisiveness there before, there would be no union there. Simple fact, corperate and businesses created unions out of their disregard for what is a fair wage, and purposeful lack of safety standards.

Bull-Shit! Then why is there a need for a government union? Government pay & benefits are double the private sector so there is absolutely no need for public sector unions.

Mr. Heinz of H.J. Heinz company (You know Sen. John Kerry's wife's company) prided himself on taking the best care of his employees & always hired double the people he needed to in a recession to help the country's unemployed. Even he was forced into unionization of H.J. Heinz company. He felt betrayed by his prized employees. Now he can't just hire a bunch of people in a recession & labor relations are always stressed.

Unions are job killing scum who protect unproductive trouble makers to extort earnings from productive citizens. They cast aside the eager, productive talent preferring loyal union trouble makers. They operate as terrorist.

 

[JBeukema]

Sounds good to me. Union members pay dues which should be used to compensate them during strikes (as long as the strikes are legal). There is no reason why taxpayers should be footing the bill for them to protest for more money.

If I were a non union employee and I wanted more money.....I would quit if they said no....

And go hungry?

 

[The T]

If there were no divisiveness there before, there would be no union there. Simple fact, corperate and businesses created unions out of their disregard for what is a fair wage, and purposeful lack of safety standards.

Bull-Shit! Then why is there a need for a government union? Government pay & benefits are double the private sector so there is absolutely no need for public sector unions.

Mr. Heinz of H.J. Heinz company (You know Sen. John Kerry's wife's company) prided himself on taking the best care of his employees & always hired double the people he needed to in a recession to help the country's unemployed. Even he was forced into unionization of H.J. Heinz company. He felt betrayed by his prized employees. Now he can't just hire a bunch of people in a recession & labor relations are always stressed.

Unions are job killing scum who protect unproductive trouble makers to extort earnings from productive citizens. They cast aside the eager, productive talent preferring loyal union trouble makers. They operate as terrorist.

"Thou must spread more REP around before giving it to KissMy Again..."

 

[The T]

Sounds good to me. Union members pay dues which should be used to compensate them during strikes (as long as the strikes are legal). There is no reason why taxpayers should be footing the bill for them to protest for more money.

If I were a non union employee and I wanted more money.....I would quit if they said no....

And go hungry?

*Personal Choice*.

 

[JBeukema]

Then dont join a union.

In some States, you might not have a choice but to pay dues/join if you want a job

 

[The Infidel]

Ah, tough love. That is why the average worker has seen a decline in real wages during the last 30 years, while the very wealthy have gained in multiples.

I think what you are saying is that it is tough to love those lumpen prole when they have the gall to ask for a living wage.

Unlike gov't workers whose wages have done nothing but "necessarily skyrocketed"

 

[The Infidel]

Then dont join a union.

In some States, you might not have a choice but to pay dues/join if you want a job

Then move ya shlubbz!

 

[SgtMeowenstein]

Not surprisingly, conservatives on this board are missing the point. Or, more likely, they just don't care. Here is the language from the bill:

If any member of a family that receives food stamps goes on strike, then the entire family suffers. And you cons really think that's fair?

If they are IN a Union? Then that means they are payed HIGHER than those that aren't...

And YOU think this is "FAIR"? And by the reckoning? WHAT are they doing on FOOD STAMPS?

Once again, you're missing the point. And you're pretty much lying as well. Union members don't necessarily make more than private workers. It really depends. You can't make a blanket statement like that. It's just not how things work.

But I'm guessing you're just playing the "If I can't have it, nobody can" card. You're pissed because you don't get the benefits that union members get. So you throw a fit, like a little kid, and break the toy rather than see another kid enjoy it.

Now, again, do you think it's fair for an entire family to have food stamps taken away if one member of that family goes on strike? You're okay with that? In America?

 

[JBeukema]

What happens when you guys take away all the good paying jobs? That is the part you guys don't seem to understand.
You do understand that the economy does better when we have a strong middle class. Food stamps are not destroying the middle class, but you can keep telling yourself that.

What you don't seem to understand is that it's your policies and desires for overregulation and artificial labor and cost increases that are driving away all the good paying jobs.

The jobs that are going overseas are the ones that can be done with cheaper labor. Those are not by definition good-paying jobs, by American standards. Low-skill manufacturing is leaving this country unless people here start accepting third-world living standards. That's the function of a global free market.

1) We don't have a free labour market. See: immigration control

2) You assume we can't or shouldn't make it less profitable to exploit the poor around the world

 

[Charles_Main]

If food stamps are legal to dispense then how is it legal to take them from someone because they participate in a union action?

Because brainiac, they are choosing to participate in an activity that means they are not working.

Why should union workers be treated any different than you or me. If I refuse to work, I do not qualify for food stamps. In fact to qualify you usually have to do some classes about looking for work. lol

Why in gods name should tax payers subsidize Union workers so they can keep eating and strike?

 

[The T]

Then dont join a union.

In some States, you might not have a choice but to pay dues/join if you want a job

Then move ya shlubbz!

That answer is too easy. And I'll tell you...many *ARE* and they're moving South...because they can't take the Statism any longer where they are.

 

[Charles_Main]

Not surprisingly, conservatives on this board are missing the point. Or, more likely, they just don't care. Here is the language from the bill:

If any member of a family that receives food stamps goes on strike, then the entire family suffers. And you cons really think that's fair?

If they are IN a Union? Then that means they are payed HIGHER than those that aren't...

And YOU think this is "FAIR"? And by the reckoning? WHAT are they doing on FOOD STAMPS?

Once again, you're missing the point. And you're pretty much lying as well. Union members don't necessarily make more than private workers. It really depends. You can't make a blanket statement like that. It's just not how things work.

um yes you can make a blanket statement. Every study ever done shows that union workers make More than non union workers in the same industry.

DUH!

 

[Charles_Main]

In some States, you might not have a choice but to pay dues/join if you want a job

Then move ya shlubbz!

That answer is too easy. And I'll tell you...many *ARE* and they're moving South...because they can't take the Statism any longer where they are.

Exactly even as these unions make noise around the country, People and JOBS continue to move to right to work states.

You would think they might figure it out sooner or later. lol

 

[JBeukema]

So let people strike to force their employer to pay them enough to get off welfare.


What is in this bill is a plan to trap poor people into submitting to anything their employer wants

Poor people aren't slaves. If they don't like the job they have, they can quit.

And starve to death...

 

[WillowTree]

GM moved to Mexico. and Detroit is a slum.

 

[Rozman]

Not surprisingly, conservatives on this board are missing the point. Or, more likely, they just don't care. Here is the language from the bill:

If any member of a family that receives food stamps goes on strike, then the entire family suffers. And you cons really think that's fair?

I think that is perfectly fair..You wanna work.Work.You wanna walk off the job and strike.Fine.Let the union take care of it's membership,dip into the union dues...

You wanna strike and collect benefits as well....Please,enuf already.

 

[The T]

What you don't seem to understand is that it's your policies and desires for overregulation and artificial labor and cost increases that are driving away all the good paying jobs.

The jobs that are going overseas are the ones that can be done with cheaper labor. Those are not by definition good-paying jobs, by American standards. Low-skill manufacturing is leaving this country unless people here start accepting third-world living standards. That's the function of a global free market.

1) We don't have a free labour market. See: immigration control

2) You assume we can't or shouldn't make it less profitable to exploit the poor around the world

1) Immigration/Immigrants should take jobs available to them without taking them from equally qualified AMERICANS...especially ILLEGALS...so your argument is BOGUS here...

2) Why on Earth would you exploit the 'POOR'? (Unless you're Statist Democrat looking for VOTES)?

*DEBUNKED*

*THANK ME*

 

[JBeukema]

To deliberately strike in these tough economic times is NOT sacrificing for the common good of Americans.

Times were no easier when the Wobblies first began organizing the strikes that helped bring about the minimum wage and end child labour. I'd go so far as to say they were much harder.

 

[boedicca]

So let people strike to force their employer to pay them enough to get off welfare.


What is in this bill is a plan to trap poor people into submitting to anything their employer wants

Poor people aren't slaves. If they don't like the job they have, they can quit.

And starve to death...

I'd like to see your source proving that The Poor in the U.S. are starving to death.

The overwhelming evidence is that they are OBESE.