NO Deal!! Iran Won't Give Up Their Nuclear Weapons

[CrusaderFrank]

I dont know how its possible now but I think the only way is through US/ISraeli/ or some other player intelligence... who could take out more of their top leadership and their generals and possibly support a coup by Irans regular armed forces

Already tried that

What next, close Hormuz?

 

[ChristisKing]

Iran will capitulate and sign the agreement ..

When? When Hell freezes over?

 

[ChristisKing]

This is why I still admire JD.

JD Vance Rips Critics Who Say You ‘Can’t Trust’ Iran — After Trump Does Exactly That

"Second, people who say you can't trust a word said by the IRGC who apparently believe anonymously sourced social media posts."

www.mediaite.com

 

[jacksonlamb]

^^^ see what I mean? A Democrat who ignores that we’re dealing with lying Islamic savages.

If Trump were dealing with normal humans, there would have been a deal already.

Where am I ignoring that? I support the bombing of the enrichment sites. However, we do not have the means or the willpower as a people to go beyond that. That's reality.

 

[toobfreak]

Iran will capitulate and sign the agreement ..

They must, sooner or later, they will either sign and acquiesce to world demand at some point or the USA with its partners is just going to be forced to go in there and TAKE the country by unmitigated force, and stomp them until there is nothing left alive. Then Iran gets zip.

The equation is simple: Either Iran concedes to US demand, drops its nuclear bomb/aggression principles, respects the international waters of the Strait, perhaps respects human rights violations for mass-brutality and slaughter, or the entire world gives up on nearly a quarter of its total oil supply, demands and needs on which all their economies and survival depend.

Now guess which one wins? The entire world or tiny Iran, the size of Alaska, severely weakened, and hardly without a friend now?

 

[toobfreak]

Especially since we’ve already demolished so much of their nuke-building apparatus that we’ve set them back 10 years as it is. I agree….there’s no rush.

We have destroyed not only their factories for making nukes, but for all of their larger missiles and bombs. Unless they completely rebuild those factories (rather hard to do with the USA watching and bombing any efforts to repair), but under hyperinflation where their money is now worthless.

So, every time Iran fires off some missile or something, that is one less in their inventory and their inventory is already 80% depleted. All they have left is some small help the Russians and Chinese have been trying to sneak in.

 

[toobfreak]

^^^ see what I mean? A Democrat who ignores that we’re dealing with lying Islamic savages.

More like a total dumbshit troll apologist likely paid to keep trying to ignore everything else but to continually always just try to steer every issue back onto Trump.

And we all know who best stands to gain by accusing Trump as the cause and fault of everything--- Deadhead Democrats working for America's enemies.

Yep, Trump is the cause of this Iran War--- and he started it back when he was only 32 years old.

 

[toobfreak]

"Operation Cremation" right around the corner for Iran?

Alternate title: 'Operation Big Blender.'

 

[toobfreak]

Trump lies to us all the time.

Right, and here you guys have been just so damned HONEST with him!

 

[jackflash]

Trump is going through the "drill" expected by the rest of the (USA hating) World.
We offer to talk and make a deal so that when Iran declines we can say we tried, then back to business as usual.
Trump is an experienced deal maker, if those he deals with want to make deals.
Iran envisions itself as the leader of Global Islamic Jihad, out to convert the whole world to Islam and Sharia. Making a deal to be peaceful, give up any weapons advantage, and stick with it isn't going to happen.
Unless it's deception typical to taqiyyah.

Force is all the islmos know.

 

[shimon]

People need to think seriously about consequences and taking their eye off the ball… I am not here to debate but point out a few points…. Number one Iran has extended their ballistic missile capability to around 4000 kilometres give or take.. It is not inconceivable that they can double or triple this range given time and the desire to do so which would put most if not all of the continental United States in their range certainly most of the east coast where most of the population lives.. Seeing the size of the ballistic missiles they have been using on Israel they can conceivably carry huge payloads plus their use of cluster munitions shows they may have if not already the ability to launch missiles with multiple warheads… Now Iran or the leaders of the country have an apocalyptic view of Islam it is their belief that they must in order to bring the Mahdi cause incredible mayhem and destruction to do so… So they are not bound by normal peramiters or conventions….Now it is true that at nuclear plants such as Fordow and Netanz they have been upgrading their plutonium to weapons grade which would give them conservatively enough material to conceivably build 11 nuclear bombs… Thisisthd materialeveryone is talking about and it would be a great thing if we can get it removed from Iran however there is a much greater issue and one that is not talked about in great detail… This problem is much more serious and that is the Busher Nuclear reactor which has been running for quite some time and producing plutonium that was supposed to be removed by the Russians but never was… The material is around 200 tons? which can produce conservately some 200 bombs.. This material is highly radioactive so bombing it would create a catastrophe but fanatics being what fanatics are I am sure there would be people willing to help refine it even if they give their lives in doing so….. If Iran was run by normal people I would not be bothered to much but they are not and sometimes sacrifices must be made now in order that things don’t get much much worse in the future…But hey kicking the can down the road has always been a great art form why would we change that policy now..

 

[Kruska]

People need to think seriously about consequences and taking their eye off the ball… I am not here to debate but point out a few points…. Number one Iran has extended their ballistic missile capability to around 4000 kilometres give or take.. It is not inconceivable that they can double or triple this range given time and the desire to do so which would put most if not all of the continental United States in their range certainly most of the east coast where most of the population lives.. Seeing the size of the ballistic missiles they have been using on Israel they can conceivably carry huge payloads plus their use of cluster munitions shows they may have if not already the ability to launch missiles with multiple warheads… Now Iran or the leaders of the country have an apocalyptic view of Islam it is their belief that they must in order to bring the Mahdi cause incredible mayhem and destruction to do so… So they are not bound by normal peramiters or conventions….Now it is true that at nuclear plants such as Fordow and Netanz they have been upgrading their plutonium to weapons grade which would give them conservatively enough material to conceivably build 11 nuclear bombs… Thisisthd materialeveryone is talking about and it would be a great thing if we can get it removed from Iran however there is a much greater issue and one that is not talked about in great detail… This problem is much more serious and that is the Busher Nuclear reactor which has been running for quite some time and producing plutonium that was supposed to be removed by the Russians but never was… The material is around 200 tons? which can produce conservately some 200 bombs.. This material is highly radioactive so bombing it would create a catastrophe but fanatics being what fanatics are I am sure there would be people willing to help refine it even if they give their lives in doing so….. If Iran was run by normal people I would not be bothered to much but they are not and sometimes sacrifices must be made now in order that things don’t get much much worse in the future…But hey kicking the can down the road has always been a great art form why would we change that policy now..

Give back the Palestinians houses and lands, send back those European immigrants to somewhere else (I would prefer the USA) let them create all their chaos and genocide there - instead of writing soooo much garbage about Iran.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Give back the Palestinians houses and lands, send back those European immigrants to somewhere else (I would prefer the USA) let them create all their chaos and genocide there - instead of writing soooo much garbage about Iran.

Israel is going nowhere, and the Jews are staying put.

Iran will die with many millions if it keeps trying to produce a weapon to take out Tel Aviv.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

I hate to say that I told you guys so,... BUT I told you guys so. In other news, water is wet.

Middle East crisis live: Iran says Lebanon is part of deal with US but nuclear programme is not

Iran’s foreign minister says end to war on all fronts includes Lebanon but Tehran won’t give up nuclear programme; US president has reportedly talked to Netanyahu

www.theguardian.com

Yet another doomer fail aged badly.

Hardly breaking news.

 

[Kruska]

Israel is going nowhere, and the Jews are staying put.

Yes off course - and the killing will also go on.

Iran will die with many millions if it keeps trying to produce a weapon to take out Tel Aviv.

They will produce obtain a nuclear capability - they don't and won't use it - just Israel knowing that Iran has them will hopefully make them far more agreeable to stop their genocidal actions and finalize a satisfactory Palestinian solution - otherwise Iran will simply intensify their proxy activities against Israel - which Israel won't be able to hold off forever.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Yes off course - and the killing will also go on.

They will produce obtain a nuclear capability - they don't and won't use it - just Israel knowing that Iran has them will hopefully make them far more agreeable to stop their genocidal actions and finalize a satisfactory Palestinian solution - otherwise Iran will simply intensify their proxy activities against Israel - which Israel won't be able to hold off forever.

All sentient humans know the mad Mullahs will use it if the get it. That will not be allowed to happen, Kruska.

 

[shimon]

Give back the Palestinians houses and lands, send back those European immigrants to somewhere else (I would prefer the USA) let them create all their chaos and genocide there - instead of writing soooo much garbage about Iran.

You are being deceptive… The so called Palestinians have huge areas of land inside and outside of Israel today… There are over two million palestians living in the state of Israel with homes and land that they live on… There are many millions more living in the state of Jordan where they are the majority of over 75 per cent of the population and on and on….Israel has a pittance of the land but it was never about the land was it on the Muslim part… By the way a vast majority of the Jewish people residing in the state of Israel are refugees and their offspring who were forcibly displaced from their ancestral homes and lands in Muslim countries.. When you say European you are being deceptive and using Taqiyya and where is this genocide you are speaking of since the Palestinians population has expanded by leaps and bounds over the last 70 plus years you really are being delusional or just using lies over and over again so that some naive people eventually swallow your lies and deceptions… The topic was Iran and their nuclear ambitions not Israel but somehow you brought them into the mix because you and many others are suffering from IDS . Israel Derangement Syndrome,,, You should get that checked out by a professional before it gets worse and you suffer some sort of breakdown…

 

[jacksonlamb]

The Jews will remain and Greater Israel will live on and on.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

The Jews will remain and Greater Israel will live on and on.

Not a big Israel guy, but I don't see Jews ruining this country pooping in the streets, assailing cops and other civilians and trying to introduce communist ideas into the political zeitgeist.

So no harm no foul.

As far as I'm concerned.

 

[Kruska]

You are being deceptive… The so called Palestinians have huge areas of land inside and outside of Israel today… There are over two million palestians living in the state of Israel with homes and land that they live on… There are many millions more living in the state of Jordan where they are the majority of over 75 per cent of the population and on and on….Israel has a pittance of the land but it was never about the land was it on the Muslim part… By the way a vast majority of the Jewish people residing in the state of Israel are refugees and their offspring who were forcibly displaced from their ancestral homes and lands in Muslim countries.. When you say European you are being deceptive and using Taqiyya and where is this genocide you are speaking of since the Palestinians population has expanded by leaps and bounds over the last 70 plus years you really are being delusional or just using lies over and over again so that some naive people eventually swallow your lies and deceptions… The topic was Iran and their nuclear ambitions not Israel but somehow you brought them into the mix because you and many others are suffering from IDS . Israel Derangement Syndrome,,, You should get that checked out by a professional before it gets worse and you suffer some sort of breakdown…

Those Bedouins and Palestinians don't have the same rights as Jews - you been to Israel? then you would know that's a fact.
That Jews got kicked out of Muslim countries AFTER foreigners forced a million Palestinians to flee their homeland - is new to you?
Jordan isn't and has never been Palestinian lands - so why bring it up?

I didn't bring up Israel - but someone who erroneously propagates that Iran would use nuclear weapons to attack Israel.

Denying the genocide in Gaza and the murderous Israel policy towards the West-Bank - shows your inherent radical Zionist nature.
Read my signature.