NC has responded to the Feds

[TNHarley]

Because a male is a male is a male, what they "identify" as , is irrelevant.

Here, let me prove it to you.

Could a 6'5" 270 lb black male get a nip and tuck, claim they identify as a woman and join the UCONN women's basketball team? Why , or why not?[/QUOTE ]
Also false the tempest in a tea pot is over gender identification not sex.
The "anti trans" among other things is to blur that line and that's what pop is attempting.
By misrepresentation and pseudo intellectual bullshit.

It's not false .

The entire argument of these people is "I identify as a female now" (of course some go the other way as well, but for ease of conversation we'll stick with one)

And the letter the DoJ sent NC says that these people should be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

Which is ridiculous , because in no other area in life are people allowed to say "I was born a male but now I identify as a female" and partake of things associated with a specific gender.

Take my example, for example. Would that player be allowed to join the women's team? Of course you know the answer is no, so you pretend it is irrelevant damn well knowing that it is very relevant.

Actually that would depend on the team's attitude on the subject.
It's the same lame argument that people in pro baseball and golf use.
Your example fails the smell test.

No it wouldn't depend on the team's attitude. Jesus Christ, every thread I see you in you post the dumbest shit ever.

Educate yourself man.

Here's the NCAA rule

– A transgender male student athlete who has a medical exception for testosterone hormone therapy may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing the team status to a mixed team.


– A transgender female student athlete who has taken medication to suppress testosterone for a year may compete on a women’s team.


– Under the new policy, transgender student athletes who are not undergoing hormone therapy remain eligible to play on teams based on the gender of their birth sex and may socially transition by dressing and using the appropriate pronouns that match their gender identity.

NCAA’s New Rules Ensure Trans Athletes Won’t Play For The Wrong Team / Queerty


Don't even bother commenting on topics you refuse to educate yourself on.

those rules are not written in stone,part of your problem is thinking everything is.

 

[daws101]

The first public toilets were installed at The Crystal Palace Exhibition of 1851 by George Jennings, which set off a storm of public facilities building in conjunction with the contemporary development of sewers, indoor plumbing and water sanitation facilities in general. So basically we have the Victorians to blame for the current state of modesty emphasis.

Some of the first public toilets were squatters, but there were penny costing sitters with attendants aimed at the upper classes (with mahogany seats, no less). So that goes a way toward explaining the development of the modesty-preserving stall set up. Greed further points out that many Gents of the time, in addition to bushes as immemorial, would have been able to use pubs and clubs for this purpose (where ladies weren't allowed, natch). It does not seem an unreasonable inference that the contemporary layout of such facilities influenced the development of public men's rooms. Or in other words, dude were used to using the what was basically a trench with a drain at one end, because that's what they used at the bar. While there hadn't been any such thing as a public toilet for chicks until the mid-Victorian era, so unsurprisingly the ones they came up with allowed for privacy, visible ankles being racy at the time.

A briefer summary of this topic is available here, by, of all people, the Stoke on Trent city council. Or you might see if you can get your hands on the presentations from this recent conference on the topic. Bathroom History

 

[daws101]

It's not false .

The entire argument of these people is "I identify as a female now" (of course some go the other way as well, but for ease of conversation we'll stick with one)

And the letter the DoJ sent NC says that these people should be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

Which is ridiculous , because in no other area in life are people allowed to say "I was born a male but now I identify as a female" and partake of things associated with a specific gender.

Take my example, for example. Would that player be allowed to join the women's team? Of course you know the answer is no, so you pretend it is irrelevant damn well knowing that it is very relevant.

Actually that would depend on the team's attitude on the subject.
It's the same lame argument that people in pro baseball and golf use.
Your example fails the smell test.

No it wouldn't depend on the team's attitude. Jesus Christ, every thread I see you in you post the dumbest shit ever.

Educate yourself man.

Here's the NCAA rule

– A transgender male student athlete who has a medical exception for testosterone hormone therapy may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing the team status to a mixed team.


– A transgender female student athlete who has taken medication to suppress testosterone for a year may compete on a women’s team.


– Under the new policy, transgender student athletes who are not undergoing hormone therapy remain eligible to play on teams based on the gender of their birth sex and may socially transition by dressing and using the appropriate pronouns that match their gender identity.

NCAA’s New Rules Ensure Trans Athletes Won’t Play For The Wrong Team / Queerty


Don't even bother commenting on topics you refuse to educate yourself on.

those rules are not written in stone,part of your problem is thinking everything is.

That rule IS written in stone you fucking idiot, that's why it's called a rule.

false for every rule there is an exception .
by your logic women could not vote ,slavery would be legal, child labor ,etc.

 

[daws101]

It's not false .

The entire argument of these people is "I identify as a female now" (of course some go the other way as well, but for ease of conversation we'll stick with one)

And the letter the DoJ sent NC says that these people should be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

Which is ridiculous , because in no other area in life are people allowed to say "I was born a male but now I identify as a female" and partake of things associated with a specific gender.

Take my example, for example. Would that player be allowed to join the women's team? Of course you know the answer is no, so you pretend it is irrelevant damn well knowing that it is very relevant.

Actually that would depend on the team's attitude on the subject.
It's the same lame argument that people in pro baseball and golf use.
Your example fails the smell test.

No it wouldn't depend on the team's attitude. Jesus Christ, every thread I see you in you post the dumbest shit ever.

Educate yourself man.

Here's the NCAA rule

– A transgender male student athlete who has a medical exception for testosterone hormone therapy may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing the team status to a mixed team.


– A transgender female student athlete who has taken medication to suppress testosterone for a year may compete on a women’s team.


– Under the new policy, transgender student athletes who are not undergoing hormone therapy remain eligible to play on teams based on the gender of their birth sex and may socially transition by dressing and using the appropriate pronouns that match their gender identity.

NCAA’s New Rules Ensure Trans Athletes Won’t Play For The Wrong Team / Queerty


Don't even bother commenting on topics you refuse to educate yourself on.

those rules are not written in stone,part of your problem is thinking everything is.

once again proving your ignorance is written in stone ,as is your lack of imagination

 

[TNHarley]

 

[Fair&Balanced]

It's not false .

The entire argument of these people is "I identify as a female now" (of course some go the other way as well, but for ease of conversation we'll stick with one)

And the letter the DoJ sent NC says that these people should be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

Which is ridiculous , because in no other area in life are people allowed to say "I was born a male but now I identify as a female" and partake of things associated with a specific gender.

Take my example, for example. Would that player be allowed to join the women's team? Of course you know the answer is no, so you pretend it is irrelevant damn well knowing that it is very relevant.

Actually that would depend on the team's attitude on the subject.
It's the same lame argument that people in pro baseball and golf use.
Your example fails the smell test.

No it wouldn't depend on the team's attitude. Jesus Christ, every thread I see you in you post the dumbest shit ever.

Educate yourself man.

Here's the NCAA rule

– A transgender male student athlete who has a medical exception for testosterone hormone therapy may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing the team status to a mixed team.


– A transgender female student athlete who has taken medication to suppress testosterone for a year may compete on a women’s team.


– Under the new policy, transgender student athletes who are not undergoing hormone therapy remain eligible to play on teams based on the gender of their birth sex and may socially transition by dressing and using the appropriate pronouns that match their gender identity.

NCAA’s New Rules Ensure Trans Athletes Won’t Play For The Wrong Team / Queerty


Don't even bother commenting on topics you refuse to educate yourself on.

those rules are not written in stone,part of your problem is thinking everything is.

That rule IS written in stone you fucking idiot, that's why it's called a rule.

false for every rule there is an exception .
by your logic women could not vote ,slavery would be legal, child labor ,etc.

What a trite saying. But the reality is not every rule has an exception, and in fact the NCAA is actually pretty widely known to be assholes who have to be taken to court for the simplest exception to their rules.

The rule is clear and unambiguous. A 6'5" 270 lb man would NOT be allowed to say "oh I think I'm a woman now" and join a woman's basketball team.

 

[daws101]

Actually that would depend on the team's attitude on the subject.
It's the same lame argument that people in pro baseball and golf use.
Your example fails the smell test.

No it wouldn't depend on the team's attitude. Jesus Christ, every thread I see you in you post the dumbest shit ever.

Educate yourself man.

Here's the NCAA rule

– A transgender male student athlete who has a medical exception for testosterone hormone therapy may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing the team status to a mixed team.


– A transgender female student athlete who has taken medication to suppress testosterone for a year may compete on a women’s team.


– Under the new policy, transgender student athletes who are not undergoing hormone therapy remain eligible to play on teams based on the gender of their birth sex and may socially transition by dressing and using the appropriate pronouns that match their gender identity.

NCAA’s New Rules Ensure Trans Athletes Won’t Play For The Wrong Team / Queerty


Don't even bother commenting on topics you refuse to educate yourself on.

those rules are not written in stone,part of your problem is thinking everything is.

That rule IS written in stone you fucking idiot, that's why it's called a rule.

false for every rule there is an exception .
by your logic women could not vote ,slavery would be legal, child labor ,etc.

What a trite saying. But the reality is not every rule has an exception, and in fact the NCAA is actually pretty widely known to be assholes who have to be taken to court for the simplest exception to their rules.

The rule is clear and unambiguous. A 6'5" 270 lb man would NOT be allowed to say "oh I think I'm a woman now" and join a woman's basketball team.

nope !
problem there is if a 6' 5" man had all the work done to be a transgender female and was considered to be female for all practical proposes beside birth ( not all women can give birth either )
then it would be discrimination not to be on the team if she had the skill.
god is credited with say thou shall not .....unambiguously , look how that turned out.

 

[TNHarley]

No it wouldn't depend on the team's attitude. Jesus Christ, every thread I see you in you post the dumbest shit ever.

Educate yourself man.

Here's the NCAA rule

– A transgender male student athlete who has a medical exception for testosterone hormone therapy may compete on a men’s team, but is no longer eligible to compete on a women’s team without changing the team status to a mixed team.


– A transgender female student athlete who has taken medication to suppress testosterone for a year may compete on a women’s team.


– Under the new policy, transgender student athletes who are not undergoing hormone therapy remain eligible to play on teams based on the gender of their birth sex and may socially transition by dressing and using the appropriate pronouns that match their gender identity.

NCAA’s New Rules Ensure Trans Athletes Won’t Play For The Wrong Team / Queerty


Don't even bother commenting on topics you refuse to educate yourself on.

those rules are not written in stone,part of your problem is thinking everything is.

That rule IS written in stone you fucking idiot, that's why it's called a rule.

false for every rule there is an exception .
by your logic women could not vote ,slavery would be legal, child labor ,etc.

What a trite saying. But the reality is not every rule has an exception, and in fact the NCAA is actually pretty widely known to be assholes who have to be taken to court for the simplest exception to their rules.

The rule is clear and unambiguous. A 6'5" 270 lb man would NOT be allowed to say "oh I think I'm a woman now" and join a woman's basketball team.

nope !
problem there is if a 6' 5" man had all the work done to be a transgender female and was considered to be female for all practical proposes beside birth ( not all women can give birth either )
then it would be discrimination not to be on the team if she had the skill.
god is credited with say thou shall not .....unambiguously , look how that turned out.

LMFAO you are so fuckin stupid!

 

[daws101]

those rules are not written in stone,part of your problem is thinking everything is.

That rule IS written in stone you fucking idiot, that's why it's called a rule.

false for every rule there is an exception .
by your logic women could not vote ,slavery would be legal, child labor ,etc.

What a trite saying. But the reality is not every rule has an exception, and in fact the NCAA is actually pretty widely known to be assholes who have to be taken to court for the simplest exception to their rules.

The rule is clear and unambiguous. A 6'5" 270 lb man would NOT be allowed to say "oh I think I'm a woman now" and join a woman's basketball team.

nope !
problem there is if a 6' 5" man had all the work done to be a transgender female and was considered to be female for all practical proposes beside birth ( not all women can give birth either )
then it would be discrimination not to be on the team if she had the skill.
god is credited with say thou shall not .....unambiguously , look how that turned out.

LMFAO you are so fuckin stupid!

it's all you pal ...

tnn's theme song :

 

[TNHarley]

That rule IS written in stone you fucking idiot, that's why it's called a rule.

false for every rule there is an exception .
by your logic women could not vote ,slavery would be legal, child labor ,etc.

What a trite saying. But the reality is not every rule has an exception, and in fact the NCAA is actually pretty widely known to be assholes who have to be taken to court for the simplest exception to their rules.

The rule is clear and unambiguous. A 6'5" 270 lb man would NOT be allowed to say "oh I think I'm a woman now" and join a woman's basketball team.

nope !
problem there is if a 6' 5" man had all the work done to be a transgender female and was considered to be female for all practical proposes beside birth ( not all women can give birth either )
then it would be discrimination not to be on the team if she had the skill.
god is credited with say thou shall not .....unambiguously , look how that turned out.

LMFAO you are so fuckin stupid!

it's all you pal ...

tnn's theme song :

go back and the rules again you stupid fuck

 

[Seawytch]

And you KNOW that the first thing that is going to happen is some idiot is going to challenge the law by going into the ladies room just to ogle the women. It WILL happen.

You know this do you? Trans women have been able to use facilities in many US cities for over a decade. Should have happened by now don't you think? What you describe is still against the law in localities that protect trans folks from discrimination in public accommodation.

 

[daws101]

false for every rule there is an exception .
by your logic women could not vote ,slavery would be legal, child labor ,etc.

What a trite saying. But the reality is not every rule has an exception, and in fact the NCAA is actually pretty widely known to be assholes who have to be taken to court for the simplest exception to their rules.

The rule is clear and unambiguous. A 6'5" 270 lb man would NOT be allowed to say "oh I think I'm a woman now" and join a woman's basketball team.

nope !
problem there is if a 6' 5" man had all the work done to be a transgender female and was considered to be female for all practical proposes beside birth ( not all women can give birth either )
then it would be discrimination not to be on the team if she had the skill.
god is credited with say thou shall not .....unambiguously , look how that turned out.

LMFAO you are so fuckin stupid!

it's all you pal ...

tnn's theme song :

go back and the rules again you stupid fuck

English?

 

[Pop23]

There is no such thing as a transgender.

Transitioning genders implies that someone is in the process of becoming a different gender then what they currently are. That is a biological impossibility.

A trans male will always have all the biology of a male, and a trans woman will always have the biology of a woman.

They are simply roll playing. Cross Dressing. And some take it to an extreme, but their biology is always that of what they were born.

Simply a hoax to make an obsession acceptable.

 

[daws101]

There is no such thing as a transgender.

Transitioning genders implies that someone is in the process of becoming a different gender then what they currently are. That is a biological impossibility.

A trans male will always have all the biology of a male, and a trans woman will always have the biology of a woman.

They are simply roll playing. Cross Dressing. And some take it to an extreme, but their biology is always that of what they were born.

Simply a hoax to make an obsession acceptable.

Lol
Why Gender Dysphoria Should No Longer Be Considered a Medical Disorder — Pacific Standard

 

[kaz]

Of course businesses should be able to put up that sign and implement that policy in on their own property if they choose. However, Jim Crow laws were passed because they didn't want to do it

Yes, it is. In fact that's my position. It's like privacy policies. One of the few government programs that ever worked. Government didn't force a particular privacy policy, they only required businesses to have one and post it for consumers. Government only held them to their own policy.

I think that's the perfect solution for discrimination. Businesses should have a policy, and be held to the standard of their own policy. That way customers, employees, vendors, everyone can make an informed decision if they want to deal with that business or not

Fantastic! Now git er done. Oh that's right..,you don't actually DO anything about PA laws beyond decrying the unfairness of them on Internet message boards.

Such a rebel!

How do YOU know what anyone is doing about anything? You say the same stupid shit everytime PA laws are mentioned.

Because he's told us he doesn't actually DO anything about it. He considers whining about it on a message board as "doing" something.

Mostly because you know we are right.

Right about what, getting rid of PA laws? I don't know Queen Elizabeth, what do "we" think of them? I think that as long as I am required to serve a Christian in all 50 states, he should be required to serve me or that I should not have to serve him.

Here's a fun fact for you federal PA laws don't grant your perversion the same protection against discrimination as people have for the color of your skin. So why exactly do you defend a law that allows discrimination against your perversion? LOL

Yet. Title II does not include sexual orientation or gender identity yet. Which one do you think is more likely, getting rid of all of them or adding those? (answer in link)

It's funny how like once a month you become just an ugly bitch of a person. Then after a few days you go back to normal. What do you suppose causes that?

Facts make one "bitchy"? Or was it stealing your Queen line that has you feeling vengeful?

I don't answer your questions, you don't answer mine

 

[kaz]

How do YOU know what anyone is doing about anything? You say the same stupid shit everytime PA laws are mentioned.

Because he's told us he doesn't actually DO anything about it. He considers whining about it on a message board as "doing" something.

Mostly because you know we are right.

Right about what, getting rid of PA laws? I don't know Queen Elizabeth, what do "we" think of them? I think that as long as I am required to serve a Christian in all 50 states, he should be required to serve me or that I should not have to serve him.

Here's a fun fact for you federal PA laws don't grant your perversion the same protection against discrimination as people have for the color of your skin. So why exactly do you defend a law that allows discrimination against your perversion? LOL

Yet. Title II does not include sexual orientation or gender identity yet. Which one do you think is more likely, getting rid of all of them or adding those? (answer in link)

You have serious mental issues.

PA laws OBVIOUSLY give special protections to some classes that other classes don't get. Each time some class whines, a new provision has to be made, and you somehow don't understand that these laws INHERENTLY dont give equal protection of law?

Oh, and I find it unlikely that the law will be changed to include homosexuality on the federal level anytime soon.

She does have mental issues, but I suspect this one's not that ...

Partisanship to the point where you support a law that goes against your own wishes (she wants to be able to deny service to Christians but supports PA laws) is a sign of mental illness.

I never said I wanted to, I said I should be able to if he can discriminate against me.

Absolutely you should be able to discriminate against any customer you want. Whoever they are, send them my way ..

 

[daws101]

Fantastic! Now git er done. Oh that's right..,you don't actually DO anything about PA laws beyond decrying the unfairness of them on Internet message boards.

Such a rebel!

How do YOU know what anyone is doing about anything? You say the same stupid shit everytime PA laws are mentioned.

Because he's told us he doesn't actually DO anything about it. He considers whining about it on a message board as "doing" something.

Mostly because you know we are right.

Right about what, getting rid of PA laws? I don't know Queen Elizabeth, what do "we" think of them? I think that as long as I am required to serve a Christian in all 50 states, he should be required to serve me or that I should not have to serve him.

Here's a fun fact for you federal PA laws don't grant your perversion the same protection against discrimination as people have for the color of your skin. So why exactly do you defend a law that allows discrimination against your perversion? LOL

Yet. Title II does not include sexual orientation or gender identity yet. Which one do you think is more likely, getting rid of all of them or adding those? (answer in link)

It's funny how like once a month you become just an ugly bitch of a person. Then after a few days you go back to normal. What do you suppose causes that?

Facts make one "bitchy"? Or was it stealing your Queen line that has you feeling vengeful?

I don't answer your questions, you don't answer mine

I know you are. but what am I repeat as necessary.

 

[daws101]

Because he's told us he doesn't actually DO anything about it. He considers whining about it on a message board as "doing" something.

Right about what, getting rid of PA laws? I don't know Queen Elizabeth, what do "we" think of them? I think that as long as I am required to serve a Christian in all 50 states, he should be required to serve me or that I should not have to serve him.

Yet. Title II does not include sexual orientation or gender identity yet. Which one do you think is more likely, getting rid of all of them or adding those? (answer in link)

You have serious mental issues.

PA laws OBVIOUSLY give special protections to some classes that other classes don't get. Each time some class whines, a new provision has to be made, and you somehow don't understand that these laws INHERENTLY dont give equal protection of law?

Oh, and I find it unlikely that the law will be changed to include homosexuality on the federal level anytime soon.

She does have mental issues, but I suspect this one's not that ...

Partisanship to the point where you support a law that goes against your own wishes (she wants to be able to deny service to Christians but supports PA laws) is a sign of mental illness.

I never said I wanted to, I said I should be able to if he can discriminate against me.

Absolutely you should be able to discriminate against any customer you want. Whoever they are, send them my way ..

For any reason you choose?

 

[Silhouette]

You know this do you? Trans women have been able to use facilities in many US cities for over a decade. Should have happened by now don't you think? What you describe is still against the law in localities that protect trans folks from discrimination in public accommodation.

There is no such thing as a "trans woman". There are women and there are men. Period.

And, thieves have been able to sneak off with goods from stores during that same time frame. Tell me, do you have any compassion for one of the 17 million women/girl rape victims encountering a man in an intimate hygiene area marked "women" on the door outside? And which men in which stage of delusions will be forced upon them without discriminating against other men who might say they feel like a woman trapped in a man's body?

Will you support medical ID cards signed off on by MDs that identify these delusionists at the very minimum in order to protect women? Like all states require disabled to carry ID in order to park in disabled slots? Or will you prescribe to the 17 million women rape victims that any man self-diagnosing as a tranny can waltz in on them in the restroom, showers and dorms marked "women" on the door outside?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

More meaningless yammering.

Dismissed