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What happens? Ashes comes through that window followed by a flood of other MAGArats and that barricade is breached like all the previous ones.I'm curious, Kondor. Let's say Officer Byrd doesn't shoot Babbitt? What happens at that point? The House Chamber has now been evacuated. If the protesters break through that doorway and then through the next doorway...what exactly is it that they're going to do? What is going to be any different than what took place in the Senate Chamber? They're there to stop the certification process and they've succeeded. What happens next? What happened in the Senate Chamber?
Byrd doesn't yell ANYTHING, Lesh! Don't you grasp that? If you don't yell "Stop" you can't pull the trigger on someone! That's basic Police proceedure yet Byrd does just that!Get the fuck outta here.
Any other policeman … yells stop and if the movement is not immediately stopped… he fires
Look at the time line, Lesh! As Byrd is shooting Babbitt the last of the House members are being escorted out of the House Chamber and those protesters still have to break through the barricade where Byrd is hiding and through yet another set of doors. That chamber is going to be emptied of Reps LONG before those protesters get there!What happens? Ashes comes through that window followed by a flood of other MAGArats and that barricade is breached like all the previous ones.
There was still Reps in that Chamber and Byrd had no way of knowing whether it was empty or not.
His job was to hold that barricade and he did.
From what I saw there were still Reps in the Chamber.Look at the time line, Lesh! As Byrd is shooting Babbitt the last of the House members are being escorted out of the House Chamber and those protesters still have to break through the barricade where Byrd is hiding and through yet another set of doors. That chamber is going to be emptied of Reps LONG before those protesters get there!
Now you’re just babbling. I guess when nothing you say holds up that’s all you have leftIf your claim is that Byrd fired because he didn't know if the Chamber was empty then why hasn't there been an investigation into why Capital Police bungled this entire situation so badly? Why on earth is one of their officers opening fire to "protect" something that isn't there?
So let me see if I understand your reasoning here, Lesh! Byrd HAS to shoot Babbitt because his "job" is to hold that barricade to protect the House members? Is that what you're claiming?What happens? Ashes comes through that window followed by a flood of other MAGArats and that barricade is breached like all the previous ones.
There was still Reps in that Chamber and Byrd had no way of knowing whether it was empty or not.
His job was to hold that barricade and he did.
There is zero point in playing "What If?" at this juncture.I'm curious, Kondor. Let's say Officer Byrd doesn't shoot Babbitt? What happens at that point? The House Chamber has now been evacuated. If the protesters break through that doorway and then through the next doorway...what exactly is it that they're going to do? What is going to be any different than what took place in the Senate Chamber? They're there to stop the certification process and they've succeeded. What happens next? What happened in the Senate Chamber?
That is essentially correct. What nonsense are you going to try now?So let me see if I understand your reasoning here, Lesh! Byrd HAS to shoot Babbitt because his "job" is to hold that barricade to protect the House members? Is that what you're claiming?
So basically the "hyper-violent" mob that broke into the Senate Chamber did nothing at all that was really violent but the protesters that were trying to break into the House Chamber WERE? Is that what you've claiming? And you make that claim AFTER they've asked the Police standing in front of the door to step aside so they won't be injured and then let them leave? What do you think would have happened if Byrd had simply stepped aside and let them proceed down that hallway to break down that last remaining door. Do you think they would have attacked HIM when they didn't the Police on the other side of the door?There is zero point in playing "What If?" at this juncture.
US Capitol Police were not given the gift of Future Sight in order to judge whether the Outcome would prove deadly or innocent or anything in-between.
What they DID see was a hyper-violent mob storming the Capitol and threatening the lives of the Senate President and House Speaker and many others.
The fact that the MAGA trailer-trash who broke through had no clue what to do next - Big Surprise there - does not factor into a defense at the barricades.
So "essentially" Byrd shot and killed Babbitt why, Lesh? Why was he the ONLY police officer that day that resorted to deadly force to protect an empty room?That is essentially correct. What nonsense are you going to try now?
The Capitol Police were not given the gift of Future Sight.So basically the "hyper-violent" mob that broke into the Senate Chamber did nothing at all that was really violent but the protesters that were trying to break into the House Chamber WERE? Is that what you've claiming? And you make that claim AFTER they've asked the Police standing in front of the door to step aside so they won't be injured and then let them leave? What do you think would have happened if Byrd had simply stepped aside and let they proceed down that hallway to break down that last remaining door. Do you think they would have attacked HIM when they didn't the Police on the other side of the door?
Those officers COULD HAVE started blasting that mob… but were so outnumbered and unprotected that the mob could well have taken their guns and used them on everyone.So explain to me why the Police officers standing in front of the doorway leave if it's the job of the Police to hold that barricade until all of the Reps are long gone? Explain why what looks like a half dozen Police in SWAT gear are just a few feet away in the stairwell when Babbitt gets shot if the Police are tasking with "holding" that barricade until the Reps are gone? Or is it just "Magic Michael Byrd" that is tasked with holding the barricade and everyone else was taking a coffee break?
You already answered your own question.So "essentially" Byrd shot and killed Babbitt why, Lesh? Why was he the ONLY police officer that day that resorted to deadly force to protect an empty room?
Interesting. So once they've "overwhelmed" the Police...broken through the barricade...broken through the next barricaded door...what then? What is it that you think THEY would have done that the protesters who were already IN the Senate Chamber didn't do?Those officers COULD HAVE started blasting that mob… but were so outnumbered and unprotected that the mob could well have taken their guns and used them on everyone.
They knew that there was a barricade behind them manned by other officers who were less vulnerable.
And essentially they were correct. One shot was all it took to scare the crap out of that mob… with a barricade still in place.
Without that barricade they could have overwhelmed police.
Fail again moron
Here’s an idea. Not try to violently breach a barricade protected by police. There’s a real good chance you’ll get a bullet in the face like Ashes did.
What are you babbling about now? These were violent attackers you idiot. They were smashing windows right on front of Byrd.Interesting. So once they've "overwhelmed" the Police...broken through the barricade...broken through the next barricaded door...what then? What is it that you think THEY would have done that the protesters who were already IN the Senate Chamber didn't do?
And why were they smashing those windows, Lesh? What was their goal?What are you babbling about now? These were violent attackers you idiot. They were smashing windows right on front of Byrd.
