Navigating Ukraine, President Biden offers frank assessments of unfamiliar allies in private

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I side with Russia in this matter, they have every right to intervene and preserve their internal security, do you war mongering fascist douche bags not know history, even now?

What did USA do when they discovered Russian missiles in Cuba??? Russia does not want Nato on its doorstep, missiles and all, while there are certainly other motivations to Putin's gambit, preventing Nato expansion is the primary motivation.....
 
Russia is not stupid to invade Ukraine. If they decide to be dumb and invade Ukraine, they will feel the ire of the whole world. Just commenting.



Actually not so for the entire world. The division on whether or not Russia is justified is probably larger than you would choose to think. Russia, China, India, Iran, and possibly Germany could renegade.

But of much more importance is Germany's resolve on the pipeline changing if Russia invades.

Undoubtedly, Putin doesn't plan an invasion but must be convinced that he will.

If Germany can be convinced to stop Nordstream2 then it would be much more likely that could push Putin to invade.

And that's where the false flag provocation enters the picture. Putin will have to take his licks and then appeal to the UN.

If he doesn't then we're probably looking forward to world war.
 
I side with Russia in this matter, they have every right to intervene and preserve their internal security, do you war mongering fascist douche bags not know history, even now?

What did USA do when they discovered Russian missiles in Cuba??? Russia does not want Nato on its doorstep, missiles and all, while there are certainly other motivations to Putin's gambit, preventing Nato expansion is the primary motivation.....
Of course you do. It's the Republican way!

BTW, what about what Ukraine wants? Any calculation on that going on in that big smooth brain of yours?
 
Of course you do. It's the Republican way!

BTW, what about what Ukraine wants? Any calculation on that going on in that big smooth brain of yours?
I have a suggestion for you, run down to the recruiting office and sign up to go defend Ukraine for the Biden family, you do that or perhaps learn to exercise a little circumspection, and shut your trap!

What Ukraine wants is up to them to defend, not USA, it offers absolutely no strategic vale whatsoever to the USA, but it does offer a buffer zone for Russia, Russia is not the enemy, Biden, the democrat party, and their communist Chinese masters are!
 
I have a suggestion for you, run down to the recruiting office and sign up to go defend Ukraine for the Biden family, you do that or perhaps learn to exercise a little circumspection, and shut your trap!

What Ukraine wants is up to them to defend, not USA, it offers absolutely no strategic vale whatsoever to the USA, but it does offer a buffer zone for Russia, Russia is not the enemy, Biden, the democrat party, and their communist Chinese masters are!
Sure, right after you sign up to join the Israeli army.

Unless you're suggesting we pull our support from Israel.

But something tells me you're fine w/full support, money and men being wasted there, right? Right!?!?!
 
Actually not so for the entire world. The division on whether or not Russia is justified is probably larger than you would choose to think. Russia, China, India, Iran, and possibly Germany could renegade.

But of much more importance is Germany's resolve on the pipeline changing if Russia invades.

Undoubtedly, Putin doesn't plan an invasion but must be convinced that he will.

If Germany can be convinced to stop Nordstream2 then it would be much more likely that could push Putin to invade.

And that's where the false flag provocation enters the picture. Putin will have to take his licks and then appeal to the UN.

If he doesn't then we're probably looking forward to world war.

Stopping Nordstro2 won't affect Russia. They can sell their energy to China. However, Europe would be screwed.

Putin won't invade. He's already getting what he wants - Diplomatic talks on keeping NATO out of Ukraine and getting NATO out of the Balkans.

He knows getting NATO out of the Balkans will take a really long time, but if they're ever to get out, the process has to start sometime.
 
Stopping Nordstro2 won't affect Russia. They can sell their energy to China. However, Europe would be screwed.
Yes, China is a factor but Europe is too and there's more advantage to Putin/Russia than just the sale of gas through the pipeline.
And also the huge hit to US power through Nato as it's prowar legitimization of aggression.

This is the closest America has ever come to a tactical win over Russia and I fear it won't be called off in time. Another equal opportunity for America may never occur again. Powerful alliances are being formed.
 

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