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Well, I don't know if humans are to blame or if it is just a natural thing. We have had ice ages and warming trends in the past.
By golly! Yes! We HAVE had ice ages. And they came long BEFORE humankind crafted the first SUV
or factory.
Thus we might safely conclude that human industry has no established effect on global climate change BUT
global climate change can occur (and HAS occurred) WITHOUT any freaking human input or causation.
Calm the hell down, will you. This is just a discussion.
I have been and I remain quite calm. You urgently need to adhere to your own advice, dear.
The fact that it's just a discussion doesn't alter the FACT that the proponents of this AGW bullshit have been highly emotional and dishonest in the "discussion."
They whinny and bray about the lack of scientific acumen by the "deniers" even though THEY can't even be bothered with the importance of falsifiability. They even pretend that "consensus" has jack shit to do with scientific method.
What I see is that they REPEAT their bullshit and you read it (like a gullible shill) and lap it up. "From what you have read ..." means little since the important thing is to UNDERSTAND.
You don't.
I am being calm. You are the one using your caps and swearing and throwing about insults. Now, if you can't have a discussion without freaking out, then I'm not interesting in talking with you about this.
No no, dear. You directed me to calm down when I have been calm.
You seem agitated.
The use of caps (ZOMG!!) is not an indication of emotional turmoil, despite anything you may have "read."
And I use expletives in about 40 per cent of my posts. Learn to cope.
I don't care if you are interested in having this discussion with me or not. Don't or do. Either way, that's hardly my concern.
In fact, if you are going to wet your diapers like this, put me on ignore.
But if you are going to post about things you have "read," and think that will protect you from a response, then you aren't equipped to have the discussion in the first place.
I don't doubt that you have read much crap. That's not the hard part. The hard part is learning to reject the bullshit. HOWEVER (oh nosies, CAPS!) if you accept what you read without using logic, then you are just a gullible sheep.
LOGIC is not a dirty word. Not even in caps.