My Sympathy Is With The Teacher

[TemplarKormac]

That you would even consider that the teacher's reaction might be appropriate is all anyone would need to insist that you never be granted access to children in any capacity.

The children I've been around have been raised properly. I know their parents personally.

You can dispense with the assumptions.

Then again, what would have been the appropriate reaction by the teacher? Tell us.

Would you have the kid removed from the classroom by the resource officer? Sure, that would resolve the issue for the day. But the next morning...

Suspend the kid? That solves the problem for a minimum of two weeks to a month. And then the child is placed directly back into that environment, having learned nothing in the process.

I mean, temporary punishments are temporary. The lessons they teach are temporary. Physical reinforcement, like a spanking (or whatever that teacher did with the stick) teaches a permanent lesson.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Given half a chance, I'd love to take up that cause...

See, even you advocate for use of violent or coercive methods. Carry on.

 

[SweetSue92]

Between 1924 and 1965, immigration was restricted and nearly stopped. The reason was that after waves of immigration, the nation decide that time was needed for assimilation.

It was the right move, and I am an immigrant.


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I'm astounded that immigrants come here and do not want to assimilate. I'm not even talking about erasing all vestiges of the culture they left behind. A mixed bag of cultures is definitely a most American thing. I'm talking about assimilate to being American in the most fundamental way: embracing our core founding principles and accepting that you live in America rather than attempting to remake the place you left.

 

[SweetSue92]

The children I've been around have been raised properly. I know their parents personally.

You can dispense with the assumptions.

Then again, what would have been the appropriate reaction by the teacher? Tell us.

Would you have the kid removed from the classroom by the resource officer? Sure, that would resolve the issue for the day. But the next morning...

Suspend the kid? That solves the problem for a minimum of two weeks to a month. And then the child is placed directly back into that environment, having learned nothing in the process.

I mean, temporary punishments are temporary. The lessons they teach are temporary. Physical reinforcement, like a spanking (or whatever that teacher did with the stick) teaches a permanent lesson.

Wait kids still get removed from classrooms? They still get suspended?

ha. Welcome to Restorative Circles where talking sticks are passed around

 

[Canon Shooter]

If that involves spanking or paddling, so be it, the behind is a durable part of the human body.

In what part of that video was the child struck on the behind?

Exactly.

Dummy...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Again, you ignorant fuck, I'm not advocating there be no punishment for the student. In fact, I challenge you to link to the post in which I've stated as much.

I point to your glaring silence, your lack of admonition of the child's behavior. Your lack of outrage at the obvious lack of parenting the child received which resulted in that behavior.

I don't need links. Sometimes with people like you, I need only establish a pattern of behavior.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Wait kids still get removed from classrooms? They still get suspended?

Well, they used to be. I have no clue what happens to them now. Literally nothing I suppose.

 

[Canon Shooter]

The children I've been around have been raised properly. I know their parents personally.

You can dispense with the assumptions.

Then again, what would have been the appropriate reaction by the teacher? Tell us.

Would you have the kid removed from the classroom by the resource officer? Sure, that would resolve the issue for the day. But the next morning...

Suspend the kid? That solves the problem for a minimum of two weeks to a month. And then the child is placed directly back into that environment, having learned nothing in the process.

I mean, temporary punishments are temporary. The lessons they teach are temporary. Physical reinforcement, like a spanking (or whatever that teacher did with the stick) teaches a permanent lesson.

It's sad that you're so intellectually bereft that physically striking a student is the only solution you can find. How you can't understand the failing of that reasoning is a mystery.

Yes, remove the student from the classroom. Refuse the child entrance back into the class until the parents have had the child treated by whoever it is who treats kids who exhibit such behavior. If the parents don't want to do that, they can home-school the little cretin...

 

[TemplarKormac]

In what part of that video was the child struck on the behind?

Exactly.

Dummy...

Reach for the most accessible part of the body. An arm, a hand... behind is an example. That would involve manhandling the child.

It's cute you call me all these names. I bet that outrage you have towards me makes you entitled to such ugly language.

It doesn't have to be the behind. I've been slapped clear across the backside of my head for being a little prick once upon a time.

Man, you are so dense.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I point to your glaring silence, your lack of admonition of the child's behavior. Your lack of outrage at the obvious lack of parenting the child received which resulted in that behavior.

Any outrage I would have for the student is all-but erased by my outrage for the teacher's reaction.

Yes, the child should be admonished. The child should be punished. The child should not be physically attacked by an adult.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

I don't need links. Sometimes with people like you, I need only establish a pattern of behavior.

Yeah, I knew you'd prove to be a complete failure...

 

[TemplarKormac]

It's sad that you're so intellectually bereft that physically striking a student is the only solution you can find. How you can't understand the failing of that reasoning is a mystery.

"Intellectually bereft" huh.

I highly doubt that. I know what needs to be done to children who don't show respect to their elders, as I was taught to, as my father and grandmother were.

Words don't cut it here, pansy.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Reach for the most accessible part of the body. An arm, a hand... behind is an example. That would involve manhandling the child.

It's cute you call me all these names. I bet that outrage you have towards me makes you entitled to such ugly language.

It doesn't have to be the behind. I've been slapped clear across the backside of my head for being a little prick once upon a time.

Man, you are so dense.

You are publicly advocating for the physical attack on a child.

Nothing you might try to insult me with surpasses that...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Any outrage I would have for the student is all-but erased by my outrage for the teacher's reaction.

This is what I meant by letting outrage cloud out objectivity.

Clearly, you are not capable of practicing it.

Moving on.

 

[SweetSue92]

It's sad that you're so intellectually bereft that physically striking a student is the only solution you can find. How you can't understand the failing of that reasoning is a mystery.

Yes, remove the student from the classroom. Refuse the child entrance back into the class until the parents have had the child treated by whoever it is who treats kids who exhibit such behavior. If the parents don't want to do that, they can home-school the little cretin...

Those people and place are full with waiting lists you can't even believe.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You are publicly advocating for the physical attack on a child.

Nothing you might try to insult me with surpasses that...

Nope. That's called corporal punishment. It's a lost art that needs to be reinstated.

Putting kids in corners and taking away their toys and privileges won't get them to stop. It will teach them to rebel.

Physical punishment goes a lot further.

The greatest insult I can give you is this:

You are soft and passive. You advocate bad behavior only when the reaction is deemed disproportionate by you.

You are what's wrong with American society. You cannot handle there being consequences for negative behavior.

 

[Vegasgiants]

You are publicly advocating for the physical attack on a child.

Nothing you might try to insult me with surpasses that...

There nothing like beating a child to show them you care about them. Lol

 

[Canon Shooter]

"Intellectually bereft" huh.

Bereft, bankrupt, inept; take your pick. You're fucking stupid...

I highly doubt that. I know what needs to be done to children who don't show respect to their elders, as I was taught to, as my father and grandmother were.

Words don't cut it here, pansy.

I have no problem with a parent or grandparent reprimanding a child.

But no adult; be it a teacher, coach, counselor; anyone, should every strike someone else's child. It's your job to teach my child, not to raise him. If you don't understand that, you need to be removed from having any contact with children.

You believe, however, that adults should be able to smack little Johnny around.

You're wrong in so many ways...

 

[Vegasgiants]

Nope. That's called corporal punishment. It's a lost art that needs to be reinstated.

Putting kids in corners and taking away their toys and privileges won't get them to stop. It will teach them to rebel.

Physical punishment goes a lot further.

The greatest insult I can give you is this:

You are soft and passive. You advocate bad behavior only when the reaction is deemed disproportionate by you.

You are what's wrong with American society. You cannot handle there being consequences for negative behavior.

Anyone who tries that with my kid will be eating meals thru a straw

 

[Canon Shooter]

This is what I meant by letting outrage cloud out objectivity.

Clearly, you are not capable of practicing it.

Moving on.

I've stated, a number of times now, that the child should be punished. But the degree of punishment in the video is criminal in nature and, as such, is a far more important aspect to deal with...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yes, remove the student from the classroom. Refuse the child entrance back into the class until the parents have had the child treated by whoever it is who treats kids who exhibit such behavior. If the parents don't want to do that, they can home-school the little cretin...

I've been admitted to mental health facilities three times in my life, twice as an adult and once as a child. That one time as a child I remember very well, for the fact it did nothing to help my behavior. It also stunted my education at a critical juncture. I was ultimately admitted back to the same school and the same class I was in prior to that time.

So, how do these kinds of punishment discourage behavior like that child?

They don't.