My Sympathy Is With The Teacher

I think the kid should be punished. Can I be more clear about that?

Now beat it, lunatic...
Always need to get the last word in edgewise, don't we?

You already told me the behavior of the teacher outweighs any concern you have with the child being punished.

But carry on, softie. Go look for your spine while you're at it.
 
Always need to get the last word in edgewise, don't we?

You already told me the behavior of the teacher outweighs any concern you have with the child being punished.

But carry on, softie. Go look for your spine while you're at it.

Hehehehe... I knew you'd be back, and that you hadn't "left me" with anything.

The fact of the matter is that a teacher who would physically attack a child is a greater concern than a child who screams at a teacher. You're not mentally sound, though (and thank y thank you for alerting me to that), so you can't comprehend that...
 
She was fired.


"Video gets Treasure Coast teacher fired, charged with hitting student with broomstick

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. (CBS12) — A teacher on the Treasure Coast is charged with child abuse for striking a student with a broomstick.
...arrested on a felony warrant by Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office deputies on Friday.



The student’s mother had contacted authorities and sent CBS12 News a video from the classroom.

In it, the 12 year old with ADHD swears repeatedly at the teacher."


Our Liberal pals who run what is laughinly known as the "education system" keep these mini thugs in school making certain that teaching and learning cannot go on.



Did you get this: "the 12 year old with ADHD swears repeatedly at the teacher."

Where did this brat learn to swear at a teacher????
Who arranged to videotape the incident?????????
Where are the injuries??????????


It's poor parenting and poor political leadership.




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That's a broomstick? Looks more like a ruler. And she struck him with it very lightly.

The little twerp didn't cry. He just exaggerated his discomfort to make the teacher look bad.
 
Between 1924 and 1965, immigration was restricted and nearly stopped. The reason was that after waves of immigration, the nation decide that time was needed for assimilation.

It was the right move, and I am an immigrant.


But under Democrats, who see only votes, ...
....did you know that by the end of Biden's term America will be 20% illegal immigrants?


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Did not the law from 1925 to 65 restrict immigration from Catholic countries and encourage it from Protestant nations? Jewish immigration was also restricted. Was it not about keeping America Protestant.
 
Did not the law from 1925 to 65 restrict immigration from Catholic countries and encourage it from Protestant nations? Jewish immigration was also restricted. Was it not about keeping America Protestant.


Sure looks that way:


But this needs more discussion: The Socialist Saint and Democrat Godfather:

"... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]

Betrayal: FDR and the Jews




a."However, it can be argued that because of his very outspoken and domineering mother who clearly possessed a strong streak of anti-Semitism, FDR couldn't help his underlying prejudice regarding Jews. As described in an entry of January 27, 1942, Henry Morganthau Diaries, "Roosevelt proclaimed to a shocked Crowley (Catholic Economist and wartime Alien Property Custodian): Leo, you know this is a Protestant country, and the Catholics and the Jews are here on sufferance. This comment exemplifies FDR's upbringing among America's Protestant elite and how it most likely perpetuated a belief system that explains his aloofness from the crimes that were committed against Jews during the Holocaust." https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~simon20r/SS St. Louis/roosevelt.html

" Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews

[The Spirit of St. Louis was built in San Diego by Ryan Airlines, and while the name "Lindbergh Field" isn't official, it has stuck as a colloquial moniker. There have been some attempts to disassociate that name from the airport on the grounds that Lindbergh's antisemitism made him a terrible choice for the hero worship that naming the airport after him implies, especially because Lindbergh himself was the target of a virtual boycott after he opposed entering World War II and made disparaging remarks about Jews (even President Franklin Roosevelt claimed he could tell Lindbergh was a Nazi). Jon Bon Jovi reportedly wrote]



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.
 
I leave you with this, as a stark example of your utter cluelessness, Canon Shooter

Good day.

What does that have to do with letting your kids run wild with no discipline?
When parents started to side with their kids rather than school teachers everything went to shit.
Although these days teachers have gone off the deep end with CRT and teaching our kids about gay sex. Now if my kid got in trouble because he resisted their attempts to be groomed thats a whole nother story. I would teach my kid right from wrong and to tell me when teachers tried this kinda shit.
We didnt have this kinda crap when I was a kid.
 
I never said it was self-defense......it's the discipline that the mother should have instituted.

Nor do I believe there is 'ADHD' other than an excuse for poor upbringing.

The point is why did it have to come to the teacher hitting the child?


I agree with this.

Why is hitting a teacher acceptable? Or why do we tolerate it?


It shouldn't be and I don't have a clue.

Nope. But what were you expecting the teacher to do? Sit there and take it?

No wonder our education system is shot. Teachers are being verbally and physically assaulted by students but aren't allowed to fight back.

The parents don't seem to care in most cases, and the ones that do are never notified of the kid's behavior.

Kids past 4th and 5th grade are not being taught the real-world consequences of their behavior toward adults and it shows in American society.



There are many of you in this thread that don't seem to get the fact that the child can be disciplined without being hit since she never hit or physically abused the teacher. (According to the video that is.)
 
The point is why did it have to come to the teacher hitting the child?





It shouldn't be and I don't have a clue.





There are many of you in this thread that don't seem to get the fact that the child can be disciplined without being hit since she never hit or physically abused the teacher. (According to the video that is.)



Why don't you pose the query to the parent, and how or if that child was brought up?

Seems the appropriate place to start.

Next.....ask the Democrats/Liberals why they are copacetic with thugs who disrupt education left in schools.
 
Why don't you pose the query to the parent, and how or if that child was brought up?


Their parents probably don't know why their child was hit any more than the child or we do. Why do you keep changing the subject to my responses?
 
Why do you keep ignoring the cause?


I think I already addressed the situation multiple times now. The kid fucked up but so did the teacher. Now if the kid had been threatening her or hitting her then it would have been different, but I didn't see anything like that in the video.
 
I think I already addressed the situation multiple times now. The kid fucked up but so did the teacher. Now if the kid had been threatening her or hitting her then it would have been different, but I didn't see anything like that in the video.


Re-post sans the juvenile vulgarity.
 
What? Again that doesn't sound like anything that corresponds to what I said.
The incident in the OP is not the start of the problem.

a. the demand by the Left that thugs and criminals remain in school is the main problem.
b. the poor parenting that produced a child swearing at a teacher is a corollary.


If re-instituting education into the system is at the expense of that tap on the wrist.....I'm for it.
 
The incident in the OP is not the start of the problem.

a. the demand by the Left that thugs and criminals remain in school is the main problem.
b. the poor parenting that produced a child swearing at a teacher is a corollary.


If re-instituting education into the system is at the expense of that tap on the wrist.....I'm for it.


The solution has to fit the problem though and this didn't. It just made the problem worse in this case as I would be pissed off at my kid for being disrespectful if that was me, but even moreso at the teacher for how she handled it.
 
The solution has to fit the problem though and this didn't. It just made the problem worse in this case as I would be pissed off at my kid for being disrespectful if that was me, but even moreso at the teacher for how she handled it.


Would your kid have cursed at teachers?



Here's proof of what I said about a tap on the wrist.


There is 'hitting' and there is 'hitting.'


We've all heard jokes about Nuns in Catholic schools and their rulers......kids seem to have recovered and done just fine.


And the record of parochial schooling is outstanding.


  1. Many Catholic families joined the middle-class exodus from blighted communities, and few such schools were fund in the suburbs. “…middle-class Irish and Italian families started moving to the suburbs, leaving urban Catholic schools to cater to a majority of lower-income blacks and Hispanics.” http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1929589,00.html#ixzz0fid3CTtg
  2. Americans were migrating from the Northeast to western and southern states, which had no history of Catholic education.
  3. The liberalization of the Church after Vatican II dimmed the sense of obligation to educate their children in parochial school. And resulted in fewer entering religious vocations resulted in higher tuition. “In 1950, 90% of the teachers in Catholic schools came from religious orders; by 1967, the figure was 58%; today, it is 4%. This shift has meant that schools have had to raise tuition in order to pay more lay teachers. “http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1929589,00.html
  4. The general revolt against authority in the culture begged the question of sending children to the most authoritarian and dogmatic educational milieu.
«In 1981, James Coleman published the first significant finding that Catholic schools were more effective at education. (James S. Coleman, "Public Schools, Private Schools, and the Public Interest," The Public Interest No. 64 (Summer 1981).



e. Urban parochial schools were serving a growing share of disadvantaged and frequently non-Catholic youngsters. In a study published in 1990, for example, the Rand Corporation found that, of the Catholic school students in these Catholic high schools in New York City, 75 to 90 percent were black or Hispanic.
Over 66 percent of the Catholic school graduates received the New York State Regents diploma to signify completion of an academically demanding college preparatory curriculum, while only about 5 percent of the public school students received this distinction;

The Catholic high schools graduated 95 percent of their students each year, while the public schools graduated slightly more 50 percent of their senior class;

The Catholic school students achieved an average combined SAT score of 803, while the public school students' average combined SAT score was 642;

60 percent of the Catholic school black students scored above the national average for black students on the SAT, and over 70 percent of public school black students scored below the same national average.

« More recent studies confirm these observations. http://www.heritage.org/research/urbanissues/bg1128.cfm
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"Classes in Catholic parochial schools tended to be larger than in private schools in general. More than 62 percent of the Catholic parochial schools had an average class size of 25 or more, a substantially higher proportion than private schools overall (36 percent)."
Private Schools in the United States: A Statistical Profile, 1993-94 / Catholic-Parochial Schools





"Catholic schools are attractive to non-Catholics for several reasons, parents and Catholic educators say. They offer the close supervision and small classes of private schools at a fraction of the cost - often as little as $1,000 a year. Most important, along with academics, many parents say, is that Catholic schools provide discipline and instruct students in morals and values through their religious teaching." More Non-Catholic Students Trying Catholic Schools (Published 1987)




Bring back rulers!!!!!!!!!
 
There are many of you in this thread that don't seem to get the fact that the child can be disciplined without being hit since she never hit or physically abused the teacher.
Actually, taking a passive approach to behavior like that only encourages the child to continue the behavior. It even allows them to test the limits of that behavior.

Take adult jail, for example, sometimes the criminals learn their lesson after being put there, and some don't. What do we do with those who refuse to change after punishing them? The same can be said for children. We can take them out of the classroom, put them in detention, or suspend them altogether. But such punishments don't always reform the child. What are we left with? Corporal punishment, that of spanking, paddling, or physical responses to unruly behavior. I didn't have to hit my dad for him to slap me clean across the face for popping off at the mouth to him. I knew exactly what behavior of mine prompted the response. I never did it again. He could have grounded me, but I could have simply waited it out and continued to test his patience. He could have taken something I prized away from me, but he would have eventually given it back. It's not as simple as some of you would like to believe. Passivity doesn't always solve the problem.
 
Actually, taking a passive approach to behavior like that only encourages the child to continue the behavior. It even allows them to test the limits of that behavior.

Take adult jail, for example, sometimes the criminals learn their lesson after being put there, and some don't. What do we do with those who refuse to change after punishing them? The same can be said for children. We can take them out of the classroom, put them in detention, or suspend them altogether. But such punishments don't always reform the child. What are we left with? Corporal punishment, that of spanking, paddling, or physical responses to unruly behavior. I didn't have to hit my dad for him to slap me clean across the face for popping off at the mouth to him. I knew exactly what behavior of mine prompted the response. I never did it again. He could have grounded me, but I could have simply waited it out and continued to test his patience. He could have taken something I prized away from me, but he would have eventually given it back. It's not as simple as some of you would like to believe. Passivity doesn't always solve the problem.



I guess part of the problem is that we just grew up in different times.
 

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