My son may have ADHD

I have this sudden urge to leave EOTS alone in a roomful of untreated ADHD eight year-olds.

I have home schooled two children that where labeled ADHD who are now succesful happy dynamic drug free young adults and I am now on my third

Your alleged offspring were apparently misdiagnosed. That, however, does not negate the existence of ADHD.
 
What proof is there that ADHD exists as an illness ?

^ this is why you ARE an id-eot.

why because I ask questions you have no answer to ?

No. Because you are an id-eot. Your "questions" are stupid. YOU are stupid.

But, in any event, realizing how ignorant, delusional, stubborn and stupid you are, I EDITED the prior post before your latest post. Cross posted. Another answer. Another chance for you to reject it pretty much sight unseen.

You id-eot.
 
I have this sudden urge to leave EOTS alone in a roomful of untreated ADHD eight year-olds.

I have home schooled two children that where labeled ADHD who are now succesful happy dynamic drug free young adults and I am now on my third

Your alleged offspring were apparently misdiagnosed. That, however, does not negate the existence of ADHD.

there is no diagnostic test..there is no proof this is an illness..therefore there is no way to ever know if a so called diagnosis is correct or not
 
^ this is why you ARE an id-eot.

why because I ask questions you have no answer to ?

No. Because you are an id-eot. Your "questions" are stupid. YOU are stupid.

But, in any event, realizing how ignorant, delusional, stubborn and stupid you are, I EDITED the prior post before your latest post. Cross posted. Another answer. Another chance for you to reject it pretty much sight unseen.

You id-eot.

but you clearly claimed there was lots of proof ADHD was an illness...so wheres the lots of proof you claim ?
 
I have home schooled two children that where labeled ADHD who are now succesful happy dynamic drug free young adults and I am now on my third

Your alleged offspring were apparently misdiagnosed. That, however, does not negate the existence of ADHD.

there is no diagnostic test..there is no proof this is an illness..therefore there is no way to ever know if a so called diagnosis is correct or not

My point stands.

By the way. If your *alleged* child(ren) had no symptoms, why were they tested.
 
Based upon your responses to this adult ADD/ADHD screening quiz, you have replied in a way similar to people who have symptoms of moderate attention deficit disorder. Some people with scores similar to yours have sought professional treatment for this concern, especially if you find it interfering with your life.

If you were diagnosed with ADHD, it would likely be of the Combined type, as you indicated significant symptoms of inattention and hyperactivity/impulsivity.


For ADD or ADHD to be diagnosed, usually the symptoms must occur in at least two different settings (like school and home, or work and home), and they must have lasted at least 6 months. Symptoms typically worsen in situations that require sustained attention or mental effort, or that are boring.


You should not take this as a diagnosis of any sort, or a recommendation for treatment. However, it may be beneficial for you to seek further diagnosis from a physician or a trained mental health professional in order to rule out a possible attention deficit disorder.


http://psychcentral.com/addquiz.htm


You scored a total of 24

Inattention Subscale: 13
Hyperactivity/Impulsivity Subscale: 11
 
Your alleged offspring were apparently misdiagnosed. That, however, does not negate the existence of ADHD.

there is no diagnostic test..there is no proof this is an illness..therefore there is no way to ever know if a so called diagnosis is correct or not

My point stands.

By the way. If your *alleged* child(ren) had no symptoms, why were they tested.

I do not have alleged children I have three very real children and there is a lot of funding the schools receive for every learning diabled child they have..according to the chairman of the DSM-4..he is responsible for creating a false epidermic and schools could hardly contain themselves in there grabs for funding ..the so called symptoms of ADHD are as follows

have a hard time paying attention
daydream a lot
not seem to listen
be easily distracted from schoolwork or play
forget things
be in constant motion or unable to stay seated
squirm or fidget
talk too much
not be able to play quietly
act and speak without thinking
have trouble taking turns
interrupt others

CDC - ADHD, Facts - NCBDDD

and my children have every one of these traits in a school setting....
 
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why because I ask questions you have no answer to ?

No. Because you are an id-eot. Your "questions" are stupid. YOU are stupid.

But, in any event, realizing how ignorant, delusional, stubborn and stupid you are, I EDITED the prior post before your latest post. Cross posted. Another answer. Another chance for you to reject it pretty much sight unseen.

You id-eot.

but you clearly claimed there was lots of proof ADHD was an illness...so wheres the lots of proof you claim ?

I did? I said lots of "proof?"

Find it. Quote it. Link it.

But you won't. You can't. You are either stupid or dishonest.

Morons like you cannot distinguish between "evidence" and "proof." But you imagine you have any credibility when it comes to your uninformed opinions on any scientific topic?

Too funny, you id-eot.
 
but you clearly claimed there was lots of proof ADHD was an illness...so wheres the lots of proof you claim ?

NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness | Mental Illnesses

Is ADHD associated with other disorders?

Yes. In fact, symptoms like those of ADHD are often mistaken for or found occurring with other neurological, biological and behavioral disorders.

  • Oppositional defiant disorder. Nearly half of all children with ADHD (especially boys) tend to also haveoppositional defiant disorder, characterized by negative, hostile and defiant behavior.
  • Conduct disorder. Conduct disorder (marked by aggression towards people and animals, destruction of property, deceitfulness or theft and serious rule-breaking) is found to co-occur in an estimated 40 percent of children with ADHD.
  • Anxiety and depression. Approximately one-fourth of children with ADHD (mostly younger children and boys) also experience anxiety and depression.
  • Communication/learning disability. At least 25 percent of children with ADHD have some type ofcommunication/learning disability.
  • Tourette's syndrome. There is additionally a correlation between TouretteÂ’s syndrome, a neurobiological disorder characterized by motor and vocal tics and ADHD—a small percentage of those with ADHD also have TouretteÂ’s, but at least half of those with TouretteÂ’s also have ADHD.
  • Bipolar disorder. Research is also beginning to show that ADHD-like symptoms are sometimes actually manifestations of childhood-onset bipolar disorder.
What causes ADHD?

First of all, it is important to realize that ADHD is not caused by dysfunctional parenting, nor is it due to a lack of intelligence or discipline.

  • Biological basis. Strong scientific evidence supports the conclusion that ADHD is a biologically based disorder. Recently, National Institute of Mental Health researchers using PET scans have observed significantly lower metabolic activity in regions of the brain controlling attention, social judgment and movement in those with ADHD than in those without the disorder. Biological studies also suggest that children with ADHD may have lower levels of the neurotransmitter dopamine in critical regions of the brain.
  • Toxins. Other theories suggest that cigarette, alcohol and drug use during pregnancy or exposure to environmental toxins such as lead may be linked to the development of ADHD.
  • Genetic basis. Research also suggests a strong genetic basis to ADHD—the disorder tends to run in families. In addition, research has shown that certain forms of genes related to the dopamine neurotransmitter system are linked to increased likelihood of the disorder.
While early theories suggested that ADHD may be caused by minor head injuries or brain

 
Yes, kids with ODD and a variety of other disorders exhibit those symptoms.

So do a lot of perfectly normal kids who are never given speed.

Of the two groups, the ones that medicate, and the ones that don't, I wonder which group has the most incidence of the more challenging behaviors, later? I wonder which kids have a more difficult time as they get older?

I can tell you this...it's almost always kids from single parent households or actually in foster care that are medicated. What a coincidence for a *disease*.
 
there is no diagnostic test..there is no proof this is an illness..therefore there is no way to ever know if a so called diagnosis is correct or not

My point stands.

By the way. If your *alleged* child(ren) had no symptoms, why were they tested.

I do not have alleged children I have three very real children and there is a lot of funding the schools receive for every learning diabled child they have..according to the chairman of the DSM-4..he is responsible for creating a false epidermic and schools could hardly contain themselves in there grabs for funding ..the so called symptoms of ADHD are as follows

have a hard time paying attention
daydream a lot
not seem to listen
be easily distracted from schoolwork or play
forget things
be in constant motion or unable to stay seated
squirm or fidget
talk too much
not be able to play quietly
act and speak without thinking
have trouble taking turns
interrupt others

CDC - ADHD, Facts - NCBDDD

and my children have every one of these traits in a school setting....

Unlike the normal children. You just made the ADHD point.

You remove all the stimulants, and they're fine? Thanks.
 
Provide a fact, and we'll be right with you.

Ritalin, or methylphenidate, is often used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity
disorder (ADHD) and attention deficit disorder (ADD). Some of the many long-term
effects of Ritalin use are reduced cerebral blood flow, increased energy consumption in
many areas of the brain, permanent loss of brain tissue, life-long increased sensitivity to
cocaine, and life-long increased rates of depression and anxiety.

Wow, a drug with side effects.

No shit, Sherlock.

You want to live with those side effects?
 
The side effects are not based on the low dosage given to ADHD children.
 
No. Because you are an id-eot. Your "questions" are stupid. YOU are stupid.

But, in any event, realizing how ignorant, delusional, stubborn and stupid you are, I EDITED the prior post before your latest post. Cross posted. Another answer. Another chance for you to reject it pretty much sight unseen.

You id-eot.

but you clearly claimed there was lots of proof ADHD was an illness...so wheres the lots of proof you claim ?

I did? I said lots of "proof?"

Find it. Quote it. Link it.

But you won't. You can't. You are either stupid or dishonest.

Morons like you cannot distinguish between "evidence" and "proof." But you imagine you have any credibility when it comes to your uninformed opinions on any scientific topic?

Too funny, you id-eot.
. so where is your...lot of evidence ADHD is an illness?
 
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but you clearly claimed there was lots of proof ADHD was an illness...so wheres the lots of proof you claim ?

NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness | Mental Illnesses

Is ADHD associated with other disorders?

Yes. In fact, symptoms like those of ADHD are often mistaken for or found occurring with other neurological, biological and behavioral disorders.

  • Oppositional defiant disorder. Nearly half of all children with ADHD (especially boys) tend to also haveoppositional defiant disorder, characterized by negative, hostile and defiant behavior.
  • Conduct disorder. Conduct disorder (marked by aggression towards people and animals, destruction of property, deceitfulness or theft and serious rule-breaking) is found to co-occur in an estimated 40 percent of children with ADHD.
  • Anxiety and depression. Approximately one-fourth of children with ADHD (mostly younger children and boys) also experience anxiety and depression.
  • Communication/learning disability. At least 25 percent of children with ADHD have some type ofcommunication/learning disability.
  • Tourette's syndrome. There is additionally a correlation between Tourette’s syndrome, a neurobiological disorder characterized by motor and vocal tics and ADHD—a small percentage of those with ADHD also have Tourette’s, but at least half of those with Tourette’s also have ADHD.
  • Bipolar disorder. Research is also beginning to show that ADHD-like symptoms are sometimes actually manifestations of childhood-onset bipolar disorder.
What causes ADHD?

First of all, it is important to realize that ADHD is not caused by dysfunctional parenting, nor is it due to a lack of intelligence or discipline.

  • Biological basis. Strong scientific evidence supports the conclusion that ADHD is a biologically based disorder. Recently, National Institute of Mental Health researchers using PET scans have observed significantly lower metabolic activity in regions of the brain controlling attention, social judgment and movement in those with ADHD than in those without the disorder. Biological studies also suggest that children with ADHD may have lower levels of the neurotransmitter dopamine in critical regions of the brain.
  • Toxins. Other theories suggest that cigarette, alcohol and drug use during pregnancy or exposure to environmental toxins such as lead may be linked to the development of ADHD.
  • Genetic basis. Research also suggests a strong genetic basis to ADHD—the disorder tends to run in families. In addition, research has shown that certain forms of genes related to the dopamine neurotransmitter system are linked to increased likelihood of the disorder.
While early theories suggested that ADHD may be caused by minor head injuries or brain


these studies are not valid because the children scanned where already subjected to brain damaging ritalian
 
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On The Validity of Brain Scans as Proofs of Psychiatric Theories

3. Claimed comparisons of functional scans of so-called diseased brains to those of so-called normal brains have all been invalid, since they failed to take into consideration the various factors that influence brain circulation, including age, diet, gender, medical condition, weight, height, whether on drugs, drug history, education, etc. All of these and other factors influence the way a brain looks on a functional brain scan. (In one notorious study, the supposed differences between the normal and abnormal brains were entirely explained when it was learned that one of the groups was significantly older than the other. In another study, the people with alleged psychiatric illnesses showed brain abnormalities that were entirely explained when it was discovered that they were all on psychiatric drugs, and that the drugs were known to cause such abnormalities.)

4. The idea that a functional scan gives an instant view of brain activity is false. The sorts of brain activity we're interested in (neuro-activity) is instant, happening in thousandths of a second. A functional scan shows shifts in circulation, which, even where thought to be associated with brain activity, lag behind that activity by a few seconds (a few seconds being hundreds of times longer than the brain activity itself). In other words, this is a very crude view of the brain in action (if it is a view of brain activity, which is doubtful, since the relationship of shifts in blood circulation to brain activity are still not well understood).

5. The psychiatrists presenting these images to the public imply that we are looking at images of two brains, one normal, the other diseased. In fact, each image is a statistical average of many images. No one individual has either of these scans, and the averaging suggests clearer and more consistent differences that would not show up in individual scans. Individual scans (even assuming all the earlier points were handled) have far too much variability to be reliable for diagnosis. Where imaging studies compare groups of "normal" and "abnormal" brains, there is a large overlap between the groups. Many people alleged to be ADHD, for example, do not show the brain patterns claimed to be characteristic of ADHD.
On the Validity of Brain Scans as Proofs of Psychiatric Theories by Dean Blehert
 
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Studies have shown that Ritalin use in children increases chances of drug abuse and developing chronic drug dependency in adolescence [Mannuzza et al, 2003], and causes permanent brain damage in animals [Kuroda 2000] and humans [Breggin, 1990]. It has been conclusively shown to be the leading cause of increasing rates of drug-induced schizophrenia, depression, and bipolar disorder in children in North America [Breggin, 1999; Cherland & Fitzpatrick, 1999, Gilberg et al, 1997]. Yet unpublished study in China [Hui Xia pers. comm] indicate that long-term use of Ritalin in preschool years strongly correlates with dramatic decrease in academic performance.
Ritalin
 
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