My Folks were immigrants, they didn't own anyone

[flacaltenn]

So now you're deleting posts that you don't like while others can post off topic all they want. You aren't interested in truth. You read the responses made here then try telling me how racism from whites is in the past. That's an untruth in and of itself. If we use culture and attitude as an excuse for racism white CULTURE and the attitudes of whites like YOU give us plenty of reason. And really, your cognitive dissonance allows you to ignore the multiple drunken riots and violence by whites at various festivals and events almost annually. Riots that happen for no reason, like the attack on the capital.

I never ignore lawlessness, rioting, looting. Its what sells on the news. Except when all that shit gets called "mostly peaceful protests" when there's burning cars, building and stores being broken into.

Racism exists. Muslim, Asian, Jewish hate exists. The perps should not be our largest problem, because by and large they have no ORGANIZED power or influence. Most of that is NOT systemic except for inequities STILL PERPETRATED BY GOVT. That's what they found in Ferguson. That's what they investigated in Minneapolis. Both largely DEM RUN cities.

The biggest source of racism is the "tragedy of LOWERED EXPECTATIONS" that white egg-head elitists PUSH FOR in the public schools. That would be the teachers unions, public school mgt and the ED schools at Universities pushing LESS honor roll, testing, advanced College prep and the HARD courses. Because ALL OF THAT to the WOKE -- is racist.

Where academic achievement is FROWNED upon and curriculum get squashed to untenable levels because --- well -- RACISM! By the ed establishment that doesn't believe black kids cant keep up to REASONABLE expectations in their educations and all manner of RACIST cultural and economic EXCUSES are made for not challenging black kids MORE to UTILIZE their education opportunities.

 

[flacaltenn]

There is no unified "white culture" or attitude. I have nothing in common with the white liberal society elite, or the good old white boy southern culture or any number of other white culture.

Try asking IM2 if "white culture" or even MORALS are the same for white Dems and white Repubs and white Independents. @ me when his head explodes !!!

 

[flacaltenn]

Yes you do. You're a racist. And if their is a black culture there is a white culture.

There are MANY DIVERSE different white cultures. Not all of them compatible. But what I've learned FROM YOU is -- there is only ONE black culture and everyone thinks the same and shares a SINGLE culture.

And that YOU are the Press Secretary/Spokesperson/Bouncer for ALL of the movement. LOL...

 

[flacaltenn]

Libs think if they say something it is true.

I think that's why I call them "the Meme Team".. But I'm sticking with the "Liberal" label myself. The old-timey horse and buggy type Lib that had an INATE FEAR of centralized govt power and believed in the ENTIRE Constitution. You cant find more than a dozen of these anymore. MAYBE Bill Maher. And a couple recently deceased like PJ O'Rourke.

 

[IM2]

When emancipation came, the white slave owners received reparations for their loss of property,

How much? Link?

Slaves built the South.

And then the northern armies broke and burned it.

Reparations are owed.

Every living slave owner should pay every living slave.
Beyond that, piss off.

Reparations are owed from the end of slavery to this very second. We don't even have to include slavery.

 

[IM2]

There are MANY DIVERSE different white cultures. Not all of them compatible. But what I've learned FROM YOU is -- there is only ONE black culture and everyone thinks the same and shares a SINGLE culture.

And that YOU are the Press Secretary/Spokesperson/Bouncer for ALL of the movement. LOL...

No, you haven't learned that. Furthermore what America shows us is that white ethnic groups unified to create one culture. And you most certainly are not the evaluator of black "culture."

 

[IM2]

I think that's why I call them "the Meme Team".. But I'm sticking with the "Liberal" label myself. The old-timey horse and buggy type Lib that had an INATE FEAR of centralized govt power and believed in the ENTIRE Constitution. You cant find more than a dozen of these anymore. MAYBE Bill Maher. And a couple recently deceased like PJ O'Rourke.

The people who don't believe in the constitution are those like you. The constitution formed a centralized government.

 

[Orangecat]

ALL RISE!

This mornings lesson:

MY FOLKS WERE IMMIGRANTS, THEY DIDN'T OWN ANYONE!

After slavery, blacks were being killed by whites with no crimes charged while the Supreme Court basically repealed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments with a series of rulings. Due the consistent state and federally protected barbaric acts by whites, southern blacks felt they had to go north. When blacks started moving north, southern business and government leaders enacted laws in order to stop free people from going where they could earn a decent living. But even under the threat of jail or death, millions of blacks headed north where they believe they'd be treated right. If they had known what was waiting up north, the migration would have ended in Canada.

As blacks went north they found that the only difference between a southern white and a northern one was geography. When blacks went north, so did lynchings. They are recorded as race riots, but the reality is that there were a series of massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites due to the northern migration of blacks trying to escape massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites in the south. Historians call what happened riots and this is why it’s so hilarious to listen to the disingenuous fake outrage of the racist white subculture about blacks and riots today.

On the evening of Saturday July 19th, 1919, in Washington D.C., a group of white veterans started a rumor about a black man suspected of sexually assaulting the wife of a white Navy man. This rumor spread throughout the bars and restaurants in downtown Washington D.C. Later that night, a mob of drunken mad white men headed to a predominantly black neighborhood carrying weapons. Those mad white men proceeded to beat all the blacks they found. They snatched blacks out of their cars or off sidewalks and beat them for no reason. Where were the police? I think they had donut shops back then, but I am not sure. The violence continued into Sunday because the D.C. Metro Police failed to stop it. Random blacks got beat down on the streets of Washington. This even happened in front of the White House.

The Omaha Race Riot occurred on September 28–29, 1919. Three conditions: black property acquisition, economic anxiety and claims of black male sexual aggression, have been the general standard for white violence against blacks throughout American history. The Omaha Riots met at least 2 of the 3 conditions. The lynching of Will Brown was started by reports in local media about the alleged rape of a woman on September 25, 1919. The following day the police arrested Brown. Brown was blamed for the rape without the victim making a positive identification. There was an attempt to lynch Brown on the day of his arrest, but it failed.

The Omaha Bee publicized the incident claiming it was part of a series of alleged attacks on white women by black men in Omaha. The Bee was controlled by Thomas Rosewater who was a friends with a man named Thomas Dennison. Dennison ran a political machine that controlled Omaha at that time. To be blunt, Dennison was a crook. He controlled Omaha for 18 years before the city elected a non-Dennison flunky for mayor. His name was Edward Smith. Denison did not like that, so to make Smith look bad, Dennisons men ran amuck throughout the town wearing blackface while assaulting women and blamed blacks for it. These incidents were orchestrated by Dennison and Rosewaters paper pumped up the fake news. So thanks to his buddy at the Omaha Bee, Dennison and his friends race baited the people of Omaha and incited the Omaha Riots. On the night of the lynching, Omaha Police even caught one of Dennisons men wearing blackface. Dennison nor any of his associates were charged or convicted for what they did. Will Brown was not so fortunate. Brown was lynched, shot up after he was dead, dragged through the streets of Omaha and set on fire. He had committed no crime.

White mob violence did not end in 1919. One of the worst acts of domestic terrorism in America happened in two days of American history beginning on May 31st, 1921 in Tulsa Oklahoma. This is better known as “The Tulsa Massacre.” One may as well say this was an act of war waged on the black citizens of Tulsa Oklahoma by white citizens. I say this because not only were blacks attacked on the ground they were attacked by air. In a manner best described by the scene of Ben Richards being told to shoot the people during a food riot in “The Running Man”, whites in private planes flew over the black community shooting down on blacks and firebombing black homes and businesses.

“I could see planes circling in mid-air. They grew in number and hummed, darted and dipped low. I could hear something like hail falling upon the top of my office building. Down East Archer, I saw the old Mid-Way hotel on fire, burning from its top, and then another and another and another building began to burn from their top,”


B.C. Franklin​

The excuse by city law enforcement officials was that the planes were reconnaissance used to protect against a Negro uprising. Still today, an accurate accounting of the number of dead varies. More than 6,000 people were either admitted to hospitals or sent to other large facilities for care. More than 10,000 blacks were left homeless. The bombings and ground attacks destroyed 35 city blocks of Tulsa, resulting in damages that equaled over 32 million dollars in today’s money. None of the victims or their descendants have been compensated for this act of terror to this day. Pretty soon blacks in Tulsa will have to hear that sad, sorry song that starts with, “I was not alive then.”

I just don’t think people really understand just exactly how bad things have been for blacks after leaving Africa when they start trying to blame blacks for the slave trade or slave ownership. I am waiting for the day somebody white tries to say that blacks created the black codes, sundown towns and Jim Crow. This is the state of the madness here in America at this time. Whites have complained about political correctness and yet when political incorrectness is applied to them, suddenly things must be forgotten, revised, altered or kept quiet.

On December 23, 1945, Mr. and Mrs. H. O’Day Short and their 2 children were burned to death in Fontana California. The description of this was; “A fire of incendiary origions set by persons who did not want them to move into the white community.” Before they were murdered the family was threatened and got no protection from the police. According to the report, the Shorts had no electricity and was using gas lamps at the time they moved in. This was supposed to be temporary. While the Shorts were out of the house, people broke in, sprayed the house with a flammable chemical and when the Shorts got home and started lighting their lamps, the house went up in flames.

For the first 5 years after WW2 in Chicago alone, there were 357 acts of terror by whites against blacks who tried living in or near majority white neighborhoods. In 1951 a black man named Harvey Clark and his family tried to move into the Cicero neighborhood of Chicago. A white mob vandalized his home the burned his furniture. Aside from trying to force Clark out of his own home, the police did nothing. In first six months of 1955 there were 213 acts of violence against blacks by whites is Philadelphia. These were acts of terror committed to intimidate blacks so they would not move into white communities. In 1964 when blacks again tried renting an apartment in Cicero, their apartment was again vandalized. After the apartment was vandalized, police entered the apartment, took out the furniture and told the renters they had been evicted. At the same time, in Detroit there were over 200 acts of violence against blacks by whites to terrorize black families so they would not move to the suburbs. From 1950-1965 there were over 100 bombings of black owned residences in Los Angeles. In 1987, another black family tried moving into Cicero. Whites responded with gunfire and firebombs.

This kind of terrorism has gone long ignored in understanding the brutality and long-lasting effects of such acts upon blacks in America. For decades prosperous blacks were terrorized while black communities were destroyed by mobs of angry whites who felt they were losing out because blacks had acquired the same things whites had. Ignored was the fact that blacks worked hard to get what they had, but that did not matter because blacks were to always be lesser than whites and the caste was to be created and maintained by any means necessary.

Blacks peacefully moved north to compete for same opportunities white immigrants had and this is just a small bit of what happened. White immigrants are the ones who committed the violence against blacks. White immigrants destroyed thriving black communities. The same white immigrants whose descendants tell us today how they are not responsible because their ancestors did not own slaves.

Chris Wolfgang, Mafiosi and Madams, Omaha Magazine, August 29, 2013, https://omahamagazine.com/articles/tag/edward-parsons-smith/

Dennison’s Political Machine, Dennison’s Political Machine

B.C Franklin, The Tulsa Race Riots and Three of It’s Victims, A Long-Lost Manuscript Contains a Searing Eyewitness Account of the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921

William L. Patterson, We Charge Genocide, 4th edition, International Publishers Co., Inc., New York, 2017 pp.60-61

Richard Rothstein, Color of Law, Liverright Publishing, pp.144, 145, 147, 2018

Jae Jones, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenants, November 14, 2018, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenantsblack-family-tenants/

Charles Abrams, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero: Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero:Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend

Christy Clark-Pujara and Anna-Lisa Cox, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence, smithsonianmag.com, August 27, 2020, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence

Tl;dr.
I'll watch Roots one of these days instead.

 

[IM2]

IM2

Comprehend this my Silly Black Friend,

We need to have a constitutional convention to go over all of your grievances and recognize that the subsisting government is probably not designed to accommodate your grievances, and all of the other grievances that it is competing with for attention. Ultimately, it would seem that Black Americans would be inspired by the venture of participating in such a convention, but it appears that you do trust the Constitution.

No, we don't need that convention. And don't post videos of black people speaking like that's supposed to mean something. I've heard what Mystal has had to say.

 

[Polishprince]

Reparations are owed from the end of slavery to this very second. We don't even have to include slavery.

No one is going to pay you reparations, so it would probably be best if you just got over it.

 

[IM2]

Tl;dr.
I'll watch Roots one of these days instead.

Roots can't help you. And this would not be too long if It said what you want to hear.

 

[IM2]

No one is going to pay you reparations, so it would probably be best if you just got over it.

We will get paid reparations. So just start facing that reality.

 

[IM2]

I don't hate the country I hate the democrats that have tried to destroy the country.

Democrats have not tried to destroy anything. You hate this country.

 

[Orangecat]

Roots can't help you.

I didn't say it would. It's good for a few laughs, though.

And this would not be too long if It said what you want to hear.

I just don't care to read a novel written by a whiny retard.

 

[IM2]

Blacks still do.
Social workers, police, prison guards, parole officers........and more!

Wrong. But you're a dumb ass, so...

 

[Orangecat]

Democrats have not tried to destroy anything.

They do it without trying. Their agenda is just that destructive.

 

[IM2]

I didn't say it would. It's good for a few laughs, though.

I just don't care to read a novel written by a whiny retard.

The only thing good for a laugh is reading shit from a pussy like you who thinks he's doing something by making comments he'd never say to a black persons face.

 

[IM2]

They do it without trying. Their agenda is just that destructive.

Incorrect.

 

[flacaltenn]

No, you haven't learned that. Furthermore what America shows us is that white ethnic groups unified to create one culture.

ONE WHITE CULTURE? with 12 or more religions ethnic backgrounds from 50 or more VERY DIFFERENT places? U gotta be kidding.

What culture do I share with some god-less, soul-less, brainless fool from Anti-Fa that flies around playing super-hero? Or some REAL white racist that never cared about learning anything much at all?

You REALLY THINK that even POLITICALLY -- all white Republicans/Democrats/Independents are brothers and sister in kind and mind and spirit? That's hysterical...

But yet -- your whole world of systemic racism just goes Big Bang when we start separating ALL whites are racists -- from "whites that dont vote like me" are racist -- dont it?

 

[flacaltenn]

They do it without trying. Their agenda is just that destructive.

They are destructive because they are not PROBLEM-SOLVERS. They are meme and dream types. And their best laid plans expire HORRIBLY within weeks or months of creating new law or program or policy.