Musk rocket crashes again. No casualties

[martybegan]

It’s a well informed opinion.

First start with the fact that Congress mandated use of SLS which doesn’t have enough delta V to make it to low lunar orbit and back.

Why do you think they then setup multiple chains of procurement? Also SLS is scheduled to put a craft in Lunar orbit in Feb 2026.

Artemis II - Wikipedia

See, I back my information up with sources, unlike you.

 

[hadit]

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Well no one was hurt so thats a big bonus. It must be galling for US taxpayers who are paying for this shit show.
Maybe theu should restrict these pointless launches in case the debris falls on someones head ?
Lets hope its an illegal.

Put that one down as someone who doesn't understand the purpose and utility of testing space vehicles before putting people in them. It's far better to have crashes during testing because you learn what can go wrong and how to prevent them from happening. The rest of the world understands this.

 

[hadit]

Let me see. Was this the first flight?

This was the 9th time.

Would you get on a spacecraft that was only tested 8 times? "Okay, that's enough testing. I want on that thing right now".

 

[Marener]

Why do you think they then setup multiple chains of procurement? Also SLS is scheduled to put a craft in Lunar orbit in Feb 2026.

Artemis II - Wikipedia

See, I back my information up with sources, unlike you.

Learn the difference between lunar orbit and a free return trajectory, dipshit.

Artemis II is a planned mission under the NASA-led Artemis program, set to be the second launch of the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket and the first crewed flight of the Orion spacecraft. Scheduled to launch in early 2026, the mission will carry four astronauts on a free-return trajectory around the Moon and back to Earth. It will be the first crewed mission to venture beyond low Earth orbit and travel to the Moon since Apollo 17 in 1972.

 

[martybegan]

Learn the difference between lunar orbit and a free return trajectory, dipshit.

Artemis II is a planned mission under the NASA-led Artemis program, set to be the second launch of the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket and the first crewed flight of the Orion spacecraft. Scheduled to launch in early 2026, the mission will carry four astronauts on a free-return trajectory around the Moon and back to Earth. It will be the first crewed mission to venture beyond low Earth orbit and travel to the Moon since Apollo 17 in 1972.

There is no difference for the booster, the difference is in the payload capsule being able to enter and leave a moon orbit, the booster does its job getting the craft out of earth orbit.

You are up against someone with a degree in Engineering, stop trying to pretend you have something equivalent.

 

[Marener]

There is no difference for the booster, the difference is in the payload capsule being able to enter and leave a moon orbit, the booster does its job getting the craft out of earth orbit.

You are up against someone with a degree in Engineering, stop trying to pretend you have something equivalent.

The **** there isn’t. There’s much less delta V requirement. SLS doesn’t boost Orion out of earth orbit. That’s the exploration stage which is also what inserts it into lunar orbit and boosts it back to earth trajectory.

Good for your engineering degree but you didn’t know the difference between lunar orbit and free return trajectory. You don’t know much about the Artemis mission plan.

 

[martybegan]

The **** there isn’t. There’s much less delta V requirement. SLS doesn’t boost Orion out of earth orbit. That’s the exploration stage which is also what inserts it into lunar orbit and boosts it back to earth trajectory.

Good for your engineering degree but you didn’t know the difference between lunar orbit and free return trajectory. You don’t know much about the Artemis mission plan.

SLS is boosting it out of earth orbit and into a flyby of the moon.

Again, there is no difference as far as the booster is concerned. And where did you get the data that SLS can't boost them into a lunar orbit OR flyby?

 

[Marener]

SLS is boosting it out of earth orbit and into a flyby of the moon.

Again, there is no difference as far as the booster is concerned. And where did you get the data that SLS can't boost them into a lunar orbit OR flyby?

What I said is that SLS doesn’t have enough power to get Orion to low lunar orbit and back, and that’s true.

Your reply was that Artemis 2 was going to lunar orbit, which is false.

Now you’re jabbering on about nonsense.

SLS is not as powerful and Orion is significantly bigger as compared to the Apollo program so they had to make compromises, including using NRHO, which has downstream effects on requirements for the lunar lander.

And that’s not getting into the shadiness of Space X undercutting other proposals because they could.

 

[martybegan]

What I said is that SLS doesn’t have enough power to get Orion to low lunar orbit and back, and that’s true.

Your reply was that Artemis 2 was going to lunar orbit, which is false.

Now you’re jabbering on about nonsense.

SLS is not as powerful and Orion is significantly bigger as compared to the Apollo program so they had to make compromises, including using NRHO, which has downstream effects on requirements for the lunar lander.

And that’s not getting into the shadiness of Space X undercutting other proposals because they could.

Again no reference, no quotes, no nothing.

You seem to be using AI to make up your answers, by feeding it half truths.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

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Well no one was hurt so thats a big bonus. It must be galling for US taxpayers who are paying for this shit show.
Maybe theu should restrict these pointless launches in case the debris falls on someones head ?
Lets hope its an illegal.

This made my day!

 

[Marener]

Again no reference, no quotes, no nothing.

You seem to be using AI to make up your answers, by feeding it half truths.

Dude. I’ve been following this dumpster fire for years.

I don’t have a link for you that says everything I’ve said because I’m giving you the synthesis of tons of information I’ve absorbed over the last decade.

SLS just doesn’t have the juice to get to low lunar orbit even if it’s the larger block 2 version with the so far nonexistent exploration upper stage.

The reason we have to use SLS is because Congress is making us. It was a leftover design from Constellation. We poured ton of money into it but it’s just not very useful and everyone is afraid to give it up.

The problem NASA has is that instead of designing a mission and then building a rocket for it, they have a rocket and are designing a mission for it.

 

[martybegan]

Dude. I’ve been following this dumpster fire for years.

I don’t have a link for you that says everything I’ve said because I’m giving you the synthesis of tons of information I’ve absorbed over the last decade.

SLS just doesn’t have the juice to get to low lunar orbit even if it’s the larger block 2 version with the so far nonexistent exploration upper stage.

The reason we have to use SLS is because Congress is making us. It was a leftover design from Constellation. We poured ton of money into it but it’s just not very useful and everyone is afraid to give it up.

The problem NASA has is that instead of designing a mission and then building a rocket for it, they have a rocket and are designing a mission for it.

You don't have a link because you just made up some bullshit in your addled dime store empty head.

 

[Marener]

You don't have a link because you just made up some bullshit in your addled dime store empty head.

Okay. What do you think I made up.

Congress forced SLS upon us.

Why we have the SLS

The SLS rests on a secure foundation of political support, a consequence of the U.S. framework of representative democracy and discretionary funding.

www.planetary.org

What’s funny is that your link directly contradicted what you said and then you tried to brush it off with some gibberish instead of admitting you fucked up and don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[martybegan]

Okay. What do you think I made up.

Congress forced SLS upon us.

Why we have the SLS

The SLS rests on a secure foundation of political support, a consequence of the U.S. framework of representative democracy and discretionary funding.

www.planetary.org

What’s funny is that your link directly contradicted what you said and then you tried to brush it off with some gibberish instead of admitting you fucked up and don’t know what you’re talking about.

You have no links saying the SLS can't send something to lunar orbit. That was your original claim. Put up or shut up.

 

[Harry Dresden]

This is not the way back to the moon. It’s the way to a decade of delays and budget overrides.

what is your background in this that one should believe you...

 

[Marener]

You have no links saying the SLS can't send something to lunar orbit. That was your original claim. Put up or shut up.

It can’t send Orion to low lunar orbit. LOW lunar orbit.

SLS is still a national disgrace

Four years ago, unable to find a comprehensive summary of the ongoing abject failure known as the NASA SLS (Space Launch System), I wrote one. If you’re unfamiliar with the topic, you should read i…

caseyhandmer.wordpress.com

 

[martybegan]

It can’t send Orion to low lunar orbit. LOW lunar orbit.

SLS is still a national disgrace

Four years ago, unable to find a comprehensive summary of the ongoing abject failure known as the NASA SLS (Space Launch System), I wrote one. If you’re unfamiliar with the topic, you should read i…

caseyhandmer.wordpress.com

A WordPress opinion piece?

That's all you got?

 

[Marener]

A WordPress opinion piece?

That's all you got?

Casey Handmer is a physicist, engineer, and entrepreneur who has made significant contributions to space technology and exploration. He earned his PhD in theoretical physics from Caltech and subsequently worked at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), where he was involved in GNSS science, Mars mapping, and advanced technology development. He founded Terraform Industries to make carbon-free synthetic natural gas from sunlight and air. Beyond his professional work, Handmer is recognized for his insightful blog posts about space technology, infrastructure, and the future of human civilization, where he explores complex technical concepts in accessible ways.

Dr. Casey Handmer Profile Page | XPRIZE Foundation

 

[martybegan]

Casey Handmer is a physicist, engineer, and entrepreneur who has made significant contributions to space technology and exploration. He earned his PhD in theoretical physics from Caltech and subsequently worked at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), where he was involved in GNSS science, Mars mapping, and advanced technology development. He founded Terraform Industries to make carbon-free synthetic natural gas from sunlight and air. Beyond his professional work, Handmer is recognized for his insightful blog posts about space technology, infrastructure, and the future of human civilization, where he explores complex technical concepts in accessible ways.

Dr. Casey Handmer Profile Page | XPRIZE Foundation

One guy against all of NASA saying it will work.

Try again fucktard.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This made my day!

Better to fund "rockets to nowhere" than bombs on Gaza.