Mr. President, do you need to uphold the constitution?

[M14 Shooter]

Like when the Kenyan created his very own personal type of citizenship called DACA?

It was His prerogative, as the Secular Messiah.
Duh.

 

[irosie91]

Trump replied, "I don't know"

"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Donald Trump
Since most everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie, I guess this should not be a surprise.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/04/i-dont-know-trump-constitution-00326040

ridiculous question got a sardonic answer

 

[sartre play]

Why do do many want a king? Should the hundred years of laws be discarded?
Don't we want laws that protect the many? Not laws that protect those with the most money?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Why do do many want a king? Should the hundred years of laws be discarded?
Don't we want laws that protect the many? Not laws that protect those with the most money?

Nobody wants a King…All sane people want someone to DESTROY all things left by any means necessary.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why do do many want a king? Should the hundred years of laws be discarded?

Why should DJT be held to a different, more limiting standard of 'due process' than Clinton or Obama?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Why should DJT be held to a different, more limiting standard of 'due process' than Clinton or Obama?

Why? Because Orange Man bad…now stop asking questions!

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why? Because Orange Man bad…

Every answer I get to that question boils down to exactly that.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Every answer I get to that question boils down to exactly that.

Libs never offer logical answers to logical questions…They HATE logic.

 

[Mack The Finger]

For your reading pleasure ladies and gentleman he is a star DEM leaker:
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[Flopper]

Two years.
And for these people, what specific 'due process' is constitutionally necessary before they can be removed?

The government should provide notice and a hearing before making a decision on deportation unless the detainee waives the right to a hearing.

The purpose of most immigration hearings was to determine whether there is documentation that the person is legally in the US. If the detainee claims he has documentation, the judge would allow the person time to get such documentation. If the person submits a plea based on immigration law, the judge would consider his plea. About half of all detainees requested a hearing. The average hearing lasted about 2 to 3 hours.

Currently there is no hearing allowed. If the ICE agent decides the person is illegally in the country, that person will be detained and almost assuredly be deported. The ICE agent becomes judge, jury, and executioner. This is exactly the type of event that lead to the establishment of the 5th amendment, often referred to as the cornerstone of the constitution.

If an ICE agent stops you and ask for proof that you are legally in the country and you do not have such proof on your person, the odds are good that you will be detained. If you can get a phone call to a person that can produce proof that you are legally in the US, then ICE may decide to release you if not you will be deported.

Once deported, you can not legally enter the US to submit a claim. In other words, you are screwed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The government should provide notice and a hearing before making a decision on deportation unless the detainee waives the right to a hearing.

The purpose of most immigration hearings was to determine whether there is documentation that the person is legally in the US. If the detainee claims he has documentation, the judge would allow the person time to get such documentation. If the person submits a plea based on immigration law, the judge would consider his plea. About half of all detainees requested a hearing. The average hearing lasted about 2 to 3 hours.

Currently there is no hearing allowed. If the ICE agent decides the person is illegally in the country, that person will be detained and almost assuredly be deported. The ICE agent becomes judge, jury, and executioner. This is exactly the type of event that lead to the establishment of the 5th amendment, often referred to as the cornerstone of the constitution.

If and ICE agent stops you and ask for proof that you legally in the country and you have such proof on your person, the odds good that you will be detained. If you can get a phone call to a person that can produce proof that you are legally in the US, then ICE may decide to release you if not you will be deported.

The purpose of most immigration hearings was to determine whether there is documentation that the person is legally in the US. If the detainee claims he has documentation, the judge would allow the person time to get such documentation.

If they had the documentation, why didn't they provide it at the border,
instead of illegally entering the country?

About half of all detainees requested a hearing. The average hearing lasted about 2 to 3 hours.

5 minutes is more than enough.
Did you enter illegally? YES
Do you have evidence you shouldn't be deported immediately? NO.
Buh Bye.

If you can get a phone call to a person that can produce proof that you are legally in the US,

What would that proof look like?

 

[Flopper]

Expedited removal accounted for 75% of the deportations during the Obama administration.

Obama deported people regardless if they were criminals or not - why can't Trump?
Obama did not need to put every deportee before a judge - why does Trump?
Obama deported people with nothing but a review by a DHS or ICE agent - why can't Trump?
Obama deported people w/o witnesses, attorneys, or appeals - why can't Trump?


The law has since been changed to "anywhere in the US". Expedited removal, which allows for the deportation of individuals without a full hearing before an immigration judge, now applies to a broader range of noncitizens, including those who cannot prove they have been continuously present in the US for at least two years and those who entered the US through CBP One appointments or certain parole programs.

Although the law may seem to bypass due process, there must a legal hearing so a person can show that they have been in the country continuously for at least two year unless they admit that they have not. Under Obama, expedited removal was mostly limited to those caught illegally crossing border.

 

[Flopper]

The purpose of most immigration hearings was to determine whether there is documentation that the person is legally in the US. If the detainee claims he has documentation, the judge would allow the person time to get such documentation.

If they had the documentation, why didn't they provide it at the border,
instead of illegally entering the country?

About half of all detainees requested a hearing. The average hearing lasted about 2 to 3 hours.

5 minutes is more than enough.
Did you enter illegally? YES
Do you have evidence you shouldn't be deported immediately? NO.
Buh Bye.

If you can get a phone call to a person that can produce proof that you are legally in the US,

What would that proof look like?

The 4 most common proofs are a birth certificate showing you were born in the US, immigration papers show you are a naturized citizen, a green card that makes you a legal resident, or a court order that protects you from deportation until the court rules on your case.

Not everyone carries such evidence in their pocket. Sadly, if the person does not have that evidence on their person when they are stopped by an ICE agent, there will be no hearing to present that evidence, just a one way ticket out of the US. Even a US citizens will not find it easy to re-enter the US after being illegally deported.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The 4 most common proofs are a birth certificate showing you were born in the US, immigration papers show you are a naturized citizen, a green card that makes you a legal resident, or a court order that protects you from deportation until the court rules on your case.

Not everyone carries such evidence in their pocket. Sadly, if the person does not have that evidence on their person when they are stopped by an ICE agent, there will be no hearing to present that evidence, just a one way ticket out of the US. Even a US citizens will not find it easy to re-enter the US after being illegally deported.

The 4 most common proofs are a birth certificate showing you were born in the US, immigration papers show you are a naturized citizen, a green card that makes you a legal resident, or a court order that protects you from deportation until the court rules on your case.

Right. Illegal aliens don't have any of those.

 

[Flopper]

ridiculous question got a sardonic answer

Why was the question ridiculous? Trump had violated the 5th amendment when he ignored the constitution rights of those he deported. He has has waged a brazen and relentless assault on our constitutional structures of government in this term in office and his first term. His answer, that he doesn't know if he supports the constitution was certain a good reason to ask him directly.

 

[Flopper]

The 4 most common proofs are a birth certificate showing you were born in the US, immigration papers show you are a naturized citizen, a green card that makes you a legal resident, or a court order that protects you from deportation until the court rules on your case.

Right. Illegal aliens don't have any of those.

Which is a good reason why every one suspected by ICE as being illegal and being detained should have their day in court to defend themself. Deporting people without giving them the opportunity to present evidence is unconstitutional and just plain Wrong.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Which is a good reason why every one suspected by ICE as being illegal and being detained should have their day in court to defend themself. Deporting people without giving them the opportunity to present evidence is unconstitutional and just plain Wrong.

Right.
5 minutes should be plenty of time.

 

[Flopper]

The purpose of most immigration hearings was to determine whether there is documentation that the person is legally in the US. If the detainee claims he has documentation, the judge would allow the person time to get such documentation.

If they had the documentation, why didn't they provide it at the border,
instead of illegally entering the country?

About half of all detainees requested a hearing. The average hearing lasted about 2 to 3 hours.

5 minutes is more than enough.
Did you enter illegally? YES
Do you have evidence you shouldn't be deported immediately? NO.
Buh Bye.

If you can get a phone call to a person that can produce proof that you are legally in the US,

What would that proof look like?

The 4 most common proofs are a birth certificate showing you were born in the US, immigration papers show you are a naturized citizen, a green card that makes you a legal resident, or a court order that protects you from deportation until the court rules on your case.

Right. Illegal aliens don't have any of those.

And that is why we had immigration hearings, to determine whether the detainee can prove he or she is legally in the US. Without this due process, any one picked up by ICE can be deported, even those legally in the US which includes US citizens.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Currently there is no hearing allowed. If the ICE agent decides the person is illegally in the country, that person will be detained and almost assuredly be deported. The ICE agent becomes judge, jury, and executioner.

This has been the case since 1996. Almost 30 years.

This takes us back to the questions you continue to avoid:
Obama deported people regardless if they were criminals or not - why can't Trump?
Obama did not need to put every deportee before a judge - why does Trump?
Obama deported people with nothing but a review by a DHS or ICE agent - why can't Trump?
Obama deported people w/o witnesses, attorneys, or appeals - why can't Trump?

Well?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And that is why we had immigration hearings, to determine whether the detainee can prove he or she is legally in the US. Without this due process, any one picked up by ICE can be deported, even those legally in the US which includes US citizens.

Exactly. You have any of these documents? No.

So long!