The President of War

The Law of Going to War with Iran, Redux​

On March 2, the Trump administration issued a statutorily required war powers report giving the first official account of the domestic and international legal basis for its actions, stating:

United States forces conducted precision strikes against numerous targets within Iran including ballistic missile sites, maritime mining capabilities, air defenses, and command and control capabilities. These strikes were undertaken to protect United States forces in the region, protect the United States homeland, advance vital United States national interests, including ensuring the free flow of maritime commerce through the Strait of Hormuz, and in collective self-defense of our regional allies, including Israel.
Later, the same report makes clear that President Trump ordered these actions “pursuant to [his] constitutional authority as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive to conduct United States foreign relations.” Yet this account leaves nearly as many legal questions as it answers.

This past June, I wrote a piece in Lawfare that anticipated and critiqued the legal arguments that the Trump administration ultimately put forward to justify its decision to join Israel’s earlier military campaign and strike Iran’s nuclear sites. Many of those arguments are now being deployed once again, but in a different context to justify a far more ambitious military campaign. This article updates my prior analysis to this new reality, both to shed more light on how the Trump administration appears to be justifying its recent actions and to situate those arguments against broader historical practice.

All told, Trump’s decision to use such broad military force against Iran pushes against the legal limits on his authority in almost characteristic fashion. His apparent international legal arguments lean heavily on permissive U.S. interpretations of when states may resort to the use of force, while his domestic legal arguments seem likely to focus narrowly on the limited risks to U.S. servicemembers without constraining how the president may use military force beneath that high threshold. While neither set of arguments are entirely without precedent, prior presidential administrations have generally approached their limits with a degree of caution; Trump and his advisors are instead leveraging them to the hilt. As in so many other areas, the end result is a clear vision of a president with few hard legal constraints, so long as he does not feel obligated to exercise his legal authority in good faith. Only here, the most severe consequences of these actions are not being felt by Americans, but by individuals in Iran and across the broader Middle East now caught in their wake.


Since trumples give Capt. Bone Spurs a pass on everything from rape to felony conviction to more constitutional violations than one can count should their opinion on this issue even matter?
 
Yesterday, little Marco said that we were forced to go to war against Iran to keep Iran from retaliating against us because we knew Israel was going to attack them. He acts as though there was no coordination whatsoever with Israel, our partner in the attack. They just can't all get on the same page with the rationale. Cuz, buffoons.
 
Yesterday, little Marco said that we were forced to go to war against Iran to keep Iran from retaliating against us because we knew Israel was going to attack them. He acts as though there was no coordination whatsoever with Israel, our partner in the attack. They just can't all get on the same page with the rationale. Cuz, buffoons.
Today, crazy grandpa Don said he decided to attack Iran before Iran attacked us with no mention of retaliation from Israel's attack.
 
The state department is telling everyone in the region which includes 16 different countries to leave the area immediately. But it isn't offering any assistance to do so.
 
trump had ample time to go to Congress for a AUMF if he thought the case for an attack was strong enough. He didn't, which tells us everything we need to know.
Yes, it sure does: with all of America's enemies in the Democrat Party, they cannot be trusted anymore. They would actively support our enemies and leak information to them.
 
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Yesterday, little Marco said that we were forced to go to war against Iran to keep Iran from retaliating against us because we knew Israel was going to attack them. He acts as though there was no coordination whatsoever with Israel, our partner in the attack. They just can't all get on the same page with the rationale. Cuz, buffoons.
From what I'm seeing on this board -- and this is the base of the base here -- their media isn't letting much if any bad news out.

On top of the fact that you know that Hegseth and Trump are aggressively filtering information.

So all they see is a minor and temporary inconvenience in the Strait of Hormuz, otherwise everything else is super fantastic.

"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme".
 
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From what I'm seeing on this board -- and this is the base of the base here -- their media isn't letting much if any bad news out.

On top of the fact that you know that Hegseth and Trump are aggressively filtering information.

So all they see is a minor and temporary inconvenience in the Strait of Hormuz, otherwise everything else is super fantastic.

"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme".
Has shipping sunk in the straits?? Ive only heard they put a few mines in.

This closure is TEMPORARY
 

U.S. Attacks Iran as Trump Calls for Overthrow of Government​

The United States and Israel on Saturday launched a major attack on Iran, with President Trump vowing to devastate the country’s military, eliminate its nuclear program and bring about a change in its government.

Large explosions shook the Iranian capital, Tehran, where people reported seeing smoke rising from the district that includes the presidential palace. Witnesses described chaos in the streets as Iranians rushed to seek shelter, find loved ones or flee the city.

The American-led attack appeared to herald a much broader regional crisis. Iranian news media reported that Iran had targeted at least four U.S. military bases across the Persian Gulf — including in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, which said they had come under attack.

Iran also fired multiple waves of ballistic missiles at Israel, prompting booms in the skies as Israeli air defenses sought to repel them. Air-raid sirens sounded across the country, sending Israelis running to fortified shelters.

Mr. Trump vowed that the “massive and ongoing” campaign would target not just Iran’s nuclear program, which was the focus of a U.S. attack last June. Instead, Mr. Trump said the United States would “raze their missile industry to the ground” and “annihilate their navy,” arguing that Iran had refused to reach a deal with the United States that would have averted war.


As it turns out, trump really likes blowing things up. Trade deals, nuclear agreements, people, America's participation in the Paris Climate Accords. Anyone who didn't see the attack on Iran coming hasn't been paying attention to Don's increasingly militaristic track record. I think this makes 7 counties he has ordered bombings of during trump 2.0. Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Iraq, Nigeria, Yemen, and Somalia.

But heck, he sure did push the missing Epstein files off the front page for a few days. So in the words of Shrub............Mission Accomplished.
What's interesting is the fact that the Warmonger Neocons claim that they want to "liberate" the people of Iran and "spread Democracy" while Trump claims that he wants to singlehandedly name who the next leader of Iran will be. Is THAT the new definition of "Democracy?" Trump will appoint a leader without the Iranian people having a say in the matter or casting a single vote?

And is the new definition of "Liberation" the carpet bombing of the unarmed citizenry? That sounds like something that -- say -- Israel might do to the people of Gaza. I suppose that is a form of "liberation." Liberating ones life from their body.

Can't wait to hear the Neocon justification for these redefined terms. 5, 4, 3, 2 ...
 
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What's interesting is the fact that the Warmonger Neocons claim that they want to "liberate" the people of Iran and "spread Democracy" while Trump claims that he wants to singlehandedly name who the next leader of Iran will be. Is THAT the new definition of "Democracy?" Trump will appoint a leader without the Iranian people having a say in the matter or casting a single vote?

And is the new definition of "Liberation" the carpet bombing of the unarmed citizenry? That sounds like something that -- say -- Israel might do to the people of Gaza. I suppose that is a form of "liberation." Liberating ones life from their body.

Can't wait to here the Neocon justification for these redefined terms. 5, 4, 3, 2 ...
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What's interesting is the fact that the Warmonger Neocons claim that they want to "liberate" the people of Iran and "spread Democracy" while Trump claims that he wants to singlehandedly name who the next leader of Iran will be. Is THAT the new definition of "Democracy?" Trump will appoint a leader without the Iranian people having a say in the matter or casting a single vote?

And is the new definition of "Liberation" the carpet bombing of the unarmed citizenry? That sounds like something that -- say -- Israel might do to the people of Gaza. I suppose that is a form of "liberation." Liberating ones life from their body.

Can't wait to here the Neocon justification for these redefined terms. 5, 4, 3, 2 ...
If the orange brain stem is trying to export his version of democracy it would mean presidential candidates trying to steal an election they lost is permissible. Violating court orders and constitutional law is permissible. Using methods like gerrymandering to rig elections at the direction of the chief executive is permissible. Ignoring the will of the majority in favor of the loyal minority is permissible. Refusing to seek the authorization of Congress to conduct war against another nation is permissible. Prosecuting perceived political enemies on fabricated charges is permissible.

So, not really democracy at all.
 
"stabilizing"

Wow.
The main cause of war Iran is now isolated and on the verge of collapse. When that happens the ME will be stable. Why couldnt Biden do that? He was helping Iran
 
The main cause of war Iran is now isolated and on the verge of collapse. When that happens the ME will be stable. Why couldnt Biden do that? He was helping Iran
The Biden obsessives can't explain why Netanyahu/Trump did not attempt regime change in Iran 2017-2021, 2025.

We're about to be subjected to the real consequences of Trump's "little excursion."
 
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You know that's just bluster for the rubes, right?
Well 5500 plus strikes as of yesterday says you are wrong.

They have no say on terms. They are getting their asses kicked
 
Well 5500 plus strikes as of yesterday says you are wrong.

They have no say on terms. They are getting their asses kicked
You sound almost as sociopathic as trump.

Trump says 'honor' to be killing Iranian military​

"They've been killing innocent people all over the world for 47 years, and now I, as the 47th President of the United States of America, am killing them. What a great honor it is to do so!" Trump posted on social media shortly after midnight in Washington.

Iran's longtime supreme leader Ali Khamenei and numerous other top figures in Tehran have been killed since the war was launched by the United States and Israel on February 28.

Trump struck out at media coverage questioning the success of the war, saying "you would incorrectly think that we are not winning."

Iran's military is "being decimated, and their leaders have been wiped from the face of the earth," he said.


He has all the empathy for the loss of human life that desensitized violent video game players have. What a horrible disgrace for this one great country.
 
What were we when Obama waged war?
Not a peep out of you, Berg. Strange :rolleyes-41:
Looking backwards, in what way does that help what is happening NOW.
We have made plenty of mistakes, Do we really want to keep supporting new ones?
 

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