More Strong Evidence for Evolution: Anatomical Vestiges

[Hollie]

I'm not clear why you thought was appropriate. Evolution addresses biological life not inanimate objects.

He's just demonstrating that the Y-Chromosome is vestige and contains very little genetic information ... reproductive success only depends on the females ability to survive and raise the young ... most males are superfluous to the continuing of the species and having low brain function allows the males to be cleared out of the resource demand ... when the hungry lion approaches the tribe, it's the women who need the extra genetic material to grab the children and run off ... best if the stupid males stay behind and be macho fighting the lion ... a lion with a belly-full of man won't hunt woman ...

It ain't me
It's the people that say
Men are leading the women astray
But I say, it's the women today
Smarter than the man in every way

Yeah. I guess I missed that part.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Another Evidence of Evolution.
Just part of an Overwhelming body of such.
One rarely mentioned but very telling.
Life can be traced to a continuum, with many creatures, including us, having anatomical vestiges of our evolutionary ancestors.
An 'immaculate creation' event wouldn't leave useless organs/etc.

Heavily Edited incl Numerous illustrations within as well as references deleted for brevity.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 2
Douglas Theobald, Ph.D.
Prediction 2.1: Anatomical vestiges

Some of the most renowned Evidence for evolution are the various nonfunctional or rudimentary vestigial characters, Both Anatomical and Molecular, that are found throughout biology. A vestige is defined, independently of evolutionary theory, as a reduced and rudimentary structure compared to the same complex structure in other organisms. Vestigial characters, if functional, perform relatively simple, minor, or inessential functions using structures that were clearly designed for other complex purposes. Though many vestigial organs have no function, complete non-functionality is not a requirement for vestigiality...​

[.......]​

Geoffroy was at a loss for why exactly nature "always leaves vestiges of an organ", yet he could not deny his empirical observations. Ten years later, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) identified several vestigial structures in his Zoological Philosophy​

[.......]...these "Hypocritical" structures profess something that they do Not do—they clearly appear designed for a certain function which they do Not perform. However, Common Descent provides a scientific explanation for these peculiar structures. Existing species have different structures and perform different functions. If all living organisms descended from a common ancestor, then both functions and structures necessarily have been gained and lost in each lineage during macroevolutionary history. Therefore, from Common Descent and the constraint of gradualism, we predict that many organisms should retain vestigial structures as structural remnants of lost functions. Note that the exact evolutionary mechanism which created a vestigial structure is irrelevant as long as the mechanism is a gradual one.​

​

Confirmation:​

There are Many examples of rudimentary and Nonfunctional vestigial characters carried by organisms, and these can very often be explained in terms of evolutionary histories. For example, from independent phylogenetic evidence, snakes are known to be the descendants of four-legged reptiles. Most Pythons (which are legless snakes) carry Vestigial Pelvises hidden beneath their skin.. The Vestigial pelvis in Pythons is Not attached to vertebrae (as is the normal case in most vertebrates), and it simply floats in the abdominal cavity. Some lizards carry rudimentary, Vestigial Legs underneath their skin, undetectable from the outside...​

Many cave dwelling animals, such as the fish Astyanax mexicanus (the Mexican tetra) and the salamander species Typhlotriton spelaeus and Proteus anguinus, are blind yet have rudimentary, Vestigial eyes....​

[.......]​

The ancestors of Humans are known to have been herbivorous, and molar teeth are required for chewing and grinding plant material. Over 90% of all adult humans develop third molars (otherwise known as Wisdom Teeth).​

Usually these teeth never erupt from the gums, and in one Third of all individuals they are Malformed and Impacted [*]. These Useless teeth can cause significant pain, increased risk for injury, and may result in illness and even death [*]​

​

Another Vestige of our herbivorous ancestry is the vermiform appendix. While this intestinal structure may retain a function of some sort, perhaps in the development of the immune system, it is a rudimentary version of the much larger caecum that is essential for digestion of plants in other mammals..."​

​

Yet another human Vestigial structure is the coccyx, the four fused caudal vertebrae found at the base of the spine, exactly where most mammals and many other primates have external Tails protruding from the back. Humans and other apes are some of the only vertebrates that lack an external tail as an adult. The coccyx is a developmental Remnant of the embryonic tail that forms in humans and then is degraded and eaten by our immune system ... Our internal tail is UNnecessary for sitting, walking, and elimination (all of which are functions attributed to the coccyx by many anti-evolutionists). The caudal vertebrae of the coccyx can cause extreme and unnecessary chronic pain in some unfortunate people, a condition called coccydynia. The entire coccyx can be surgically removed without any ill effects (besides surgical complications)...""​

[.......]​

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How many Millions of H sapiens and immediate predecessors, suffered and died from Wisdom Teeth impaction/infection?.​

Were it not for Modern dentistry in the last 100 years (yes, even after Jesus), humans who had these impacted/infected Wisdom teeth (most) would have slowly died out and the specie would have been gradually purged/adapted/Evolved eventually as in all traits of all animals.​

Everything that ever lived was, and is, 'intermediate' and constantly Evolving.​

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Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

I'm not clear why you thought was appropriate. Evolution addresses biological life not inanimate objects.

English not your first language?

Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

 

[ReinyDays]

English not your first language?
Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

Why would a wolf be asked to describe a domesticated dog? ... explain yourself ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Another Evidence of Evolution.
Just part of an Overwhelming body of such.
One rarely mentioned but very telling.
Life can be traced to a continuum, with many creatures, including us, having anatomical vestiges of our evolutionary ancestors.
An 'immaculate creation' event wouldn't leave useless organs/etc.

Heavily Edited incl Numerous illustrations within as well as references deleted for brevity.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 2
Douglas Theobald, Ph.D.
Prediction 2.1: Anatomical vestiges

Some of the most renowned Evidence for evolution are the various nonfunctional or rudimentary vestigial characters, Both Anatomical and Molecular, that are found throughout biology. A vestige is defined, independently of evolutionary theory, as a reduced and rudimentary structure compared to the same complex structure in other organisms. Vestigial characters, if functional, perform relatively simple, minor, or inessential functions using structures that were clearly designed for other complex purposes. Though many vestigial organs have no function, complete non-functionality is not a requirement for vestigiality...​

[.......]​

Geoffroy was at a loss for why exactly nature "always leaves vestiges of an organ", yet he could not deny his empirical observations. Ten years later, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) identified several vestigial structures in his Zoological Philosophy​

[.......]...these "Hypocritical" structures profess something that they do Not do—they clearly appear designed for a certain function which they do Not perform. However, Common Descent provides a scientific explanation for these peculiar structures. Existing species have different structures and perform different functions. If all living organisms descended from a common ancestor, then both functions and structures necessarily have been gained and lost in each lineage during macroevolutionary history. Therefore, from Common Descent and the constraint of gradualism, we predict that many organisms should retain vestigial structures as structural remnants of lost functions. Note that the exact evolutionary mechanism which created a vestigial structure is irrelevant as long as the mechanism is a gradual one.​

​

Confirmation:​

There are Many examples of rudimentary and Nonfunctional vestigial characters carried by organisms, and these can very often be explained in terms of evolutionary histories. For example, from independent phylogenetic evidence, snakes are known to be the descendants of four-legged reptiles. Most Pythons (which are legless snakes) carry Vestigial Pelvises hidden beneath their skin.. The Vestigial pelvis in Pythons is Not attached to vertebrae (as is the normal case in most vertebrates), and it simply floats in the abdominal cavity. Some lizards carry rudimentary, Vestigial Legs underneath their skin, undetectable from the outside...​

Many cave dwelling animals, such as the fish Astyanax mexicanus (the Mexican tetra) and the salamander species Typhlotriton spelaeus and Proteus anguinus, are blind yet have rudimentary, Vestigial eyes....​

[.......]​

The ancestors of Humans are known to have been herbivorous, and molar teeth are required for chewing and grinding plant material. Over 90% of all adult humans develop third molars (otherwise known as Wisdom Teeth).​

Usually these teeth never erupt from the gums, and in one Third of all individuals they are Malformed and Impacted [*]. These Useless teeth can cause significant pain, increased risk for injury, and may result in illness and even death [*]​

​

Another Vestige of our herbivorous ancestry is the vermiform appendix. While this intestinal structure may retain a function of some sort, perhaps in the development of the immune system, it is a rudimentary version of the much larger caecum that is essential for digestion of plants in other mammals..."​

​

Yet another human Vestigial structure is the coccyx, the four fused caudal vertebrae found at the base of the spine, exactly where most mammals and many other primates have external Tails protruding from the back. Humans and other apes are some of the only vertebrates that lack an external tail as an adult. The coccyx is a developmental Remnant of the embryonic tail that forms in humans and then is degraded and eaten by our immune system ... Our internal tail is UNnecessary for sitting, walking, and elimination (all of which are functions attributed to the coccyx by many anti-evolutionists). The caudal vertebrae of the coccyx can cause extreme and unnecessary chronic pain in some unfortunate people, a condition called coccydynia. The entire coccyx can be surgically removed without any ill effects (besides surgical complications)...""​

[.......]​

​

How many Millions of H sapiens and immediate predecessors, suffered and died from Wisdom Teeth impaction/infection?.​

Were it not for Modern dentistry in the last 100 years (yes, even after Jesus), humans who had these impacted/infected Wisdom teeth (most) would have slowly died out and the specie would have been gradually purged/adapted/Evolved eventually as in all traits of all animals.​

Everything that ever lived was, and is, 'intermediate' and constantly Evolving.​

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Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

I'm not clear why you thought was appropriate. Evolution addresses biological life not inanimate objects.

English not your first language?

Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

Francis, you know less than nothing about evolution amd should not even be posting here.

 

[abu afak]

there is no valid evidence for a common ancestor

You are a dishonest blind ****** who is too deluded to acknowledge anything posted..
and certainly can't refute it.

See op.


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[abu afak]

And the unfalsifiability of the metaphysical apriority on which the hypothesis of evolution is predicated continues to fly right over your head. Zoom

There's nothing you can teach me about the hypothesis of evolution or its alleged empirical justification. I'm still waiting for you to provide a justification for its underlying apriority, which goes to the evolutionist's interpretation of the the available evidence. Why do you believe naturalism is true?

Idiotic non sequitur.

Why would one need "falsifiability" with direct Physical evidence Right there/here on YOUR and humans and other species.
It's not "falsifiable" because it's demonstrably true.
That the sun is the center of the solar system (and warms our planet) isn't falsifiable either.

You're an illogical Lying Jesus Freak who cannot debate.
When this is pointed out/OUTED it ends in repeated obnoxious gibberish (ie, irrelevant poetry) or other nonsense.

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[Fort Fun Indiana]

And the unfalsifiability of the metaphysical apriority on which the hypothesis of evolution is predicated continues to fly right over your head. Zoom

There's nothing you can teach me about the hypothesis of evolution or its alleged empirical justification. I'm still waiting for you to provide a justification for its underlying apriority, which goes to the evolutionist's interpretation of the the available evidence. Why do you believe naturalism is true?

Idiotic non sequitur.

Why would one need "falsifiability" with direct Physical evidence Right there/here on YOUR and humans and other species.
It's not "falsifiable" because it's demonstrably true.
That the sun is the center of the solar system (and warms our planet) isn't falsifiable either.

You're an illogical Lying Jesus Freak who cannot debate.
When this is pointed out/OUTED it ends in repeated obnoxious gibberish (ie, irrelevant poetry) or other nonsense.

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You aren't following. Yes, the idea of the Sun being at the center of the Solar System is a "falsifiable" idea. You would only need an image of it not being there or being somewhere else.

The theory of evolution is also falsifiable. If you found rabbit fossils in the Cambrian, evolution would have a big problem. If our mtDNA studies showed humans more closely related to frogs than to chimpanzees, evolution would have a big problem.

This is what is meant by "falsifiable".

 

[Ringtone]

Idiotic non sequitur.

Why would one need "falsifiability" with direct Physical evidence Right there/here on YOUR and humans and other species.
It's not "falsifiable" because it's demonstrably true.
That the sun is the center of the solar system (and warms our planet) isn't falsifiable either.

You're an illogical Lying Jesus Freak who cannot debate.
When this is pointed out/OUTED it ends in repeated obnoxious gibberish (ie, irrelevant poetry) or other nonsense.

Please prove why your religion, namely, naturalism, is true.

crickets chirping

Start by proving God doesn't exist.

crickets chirping

Thanks

Winning!

 

[Hollie]

Idiotic non sequitur.

Why would one need "falsifiability" with direct Physical evidence Right there/here on YOUR and humans and other species.
It's not "falsifiable" because it's demonstrably true.
That the sun is the center of the solar system (and warms our planet) isn't falsifiable either.

You're an illogical Lying Jesus Freak who cannot debate.
When this is pointed out/OUTED it ends in repeated obnoxious gibberish (ie, irrelevant poetry) or other nonsense.

Please prove why your religion, namely, naturalism, is true.

crickets chirping

Start by proving God doesn't exist.

crickets chirping

Thanks

Winning!

What, aside from the fact that natural mechanisms are consistent and verified, do the religious extremists need?

The fact that we have no evidence of supernatural mechanisms, the fact that we have no way of testing for supernatural mechanisms and the fact that natural mechanisms and naturally occurring processes provide answers to our understanding of the natural world delineates that the religious extremists insisting on supernatural answers are wrong.

Here’s a tidbit for the religious extremists / supernaturalists, the naturalism that science adopts is methodological naturalism. Scientific theories are studied by methods based on analysis of evidence, and scientists can point to the validity, or failure of the evidence to support the theory.

Let’s have the religious extremists pose their General Theory of Supernaturalism.

1. Let’s have the religious extremists supply evidence for their General Theory of Supernaturalism.

2. Let’s have the religious extremists publish their supporting data, research papers, results of experimentation documenting a flat earth, a 6,000 year old planet, that angels exist and can dance on the head of a pin, that dead people don’t stay dead, that men in nightgowns sit on thrones in the clouds.

Have at it, religion’istas. Show us the magic.

 

[Hollie]

Idiotic non sequitur.

Why would one need "falsifiability" with direct Physical evidence Right there/here on YOUR and humans and other species.
It's not "falsifiable" because it's demonstrably true.
That the sun is the center of the solar system (and warms our planet) isn't falsifiable either.

You're an illogical Lying Jesus Freak who cannot debate.
When this is pointed out/OUTED it ends in repeated obnoxious gibberish (ie, irrelevant poetry) or other nonsense.

Please prove why your religion, namely, naturalism, is true.

crickets chirping

Start by proving God doesn't exist.

crickets chirping

Thanks

Winning!

I have already proved your gods do not exist.

Prove I haven’t.

Thanks, sweetie. Note that I’m simply holding you to the same standard you want to impose on others; the “prove it isn’t” standard, such as it is.

The religion’ista “disprove my gods” is one used by many religion’istas of many stripes and mental illnesses. Your task now is to disprove the gods competing with your gods.

Post you various disproofs.

Thanks.

 

[LittleNipper]

here is a thought for you, what is the driving force of evolution? Survival of the fittest? As i understand that means those animals the compete the best for food sources survive those who don't die. Well that would mean that the number of animals would determine the amount of competition. Thus procreation would go against survival of the fittest. In other words an animal breeds other animals in direct competition with them. Who programmed animals to put procreation before survival?

When you say "programmed" i am taking it as you know about the watch maker. if not here it is... Earth is very complicated, how is it possible to contain such complexities in which it works so well together. Ah! this is a no brainier, there must be a divine power that "programmed" this to be,hence the watch maker was born for he knows all. Every little details in the watch is perfectly placed for gears to rotate in such a small confined space that the only answer for all the complexities was created by the divine watch maker.

I hope that answers your question who programmed animals to put procreation before survival.

Evolutionary theory does not explain the creation of life, it can not. But most to ascribe to the theory apparently believes it can and does. the complexity of life and man himself seems to rule out chance.

Mr. Freewill Your vast ignorance is once again apparent. Abiogenisis is not part of evolutionary science. Therefore, the theory of evolution makes no attempt to explain the origin of life. Evolution only comes into play when the chemicals start replicating in a manner that creates a unique organism, something that remains close to the same through many generations. Chemisty and physics do not operate by chance. And abiogenisis is not a matter of chance, but of the elements acting in the manner that the rules of this universe dictate.

So, people who are content with believing in evolution, as the means all the species came about, are more than likely to accept natural abiogenisis. Those that accept creation are not ignorant of the implications, but it would seem evolutionists love to make creationists seem confused. The logic (from a creationist's stand point) is that GOD created life (nature through "elements acting in the manner that the rules of this Universe dictate") did not and cannot. And the logic (from a creationists point of view) is that chemicals cannot replicate in a manner to create a new divergent species incapable of reproduction with its ancestral species.

The very proof of this logic (that of the creationist) is that educated human intervention has been unable to do willfully produce what evolutionists dictate happened naturally according to the "dictates of the Universe". The creationist doesn't conclude possible what evolutionists cannot induce with scientific intent. Abiogenisis has NEVER been demonstrated to occur under any circumstances. And breeders have only been able to produce hybrids. The proof of this is the seldom mentioned fact that when a hurricane decimated the Galapagos Islands, Darwin's finches stated to interbred. THEY WERE NOT DIFFERENT SPECIES.

On the other-hand, because GOD has been demonstrated to exist because LIFE exists without any "natural" causes. GOD has been proven to exist by countless lives that have inexplicably been chanced and renewed/redirected because of some interaction or event that does move into the supernatural. The supernatural cannot exist without an essence that acts outside the realms of nature in ways unimaginable and inexplicable that provides meaning to chains of historic events that follow a progressive or digressive cause and effect ---- all pointing to an ultimate conclusion.

 

[Hollie]

Another Evidence of Evolution.
Just part of an Overwhelming body of such.
One rarely mentioned but very telling.
Life can be traced to a continuum, with many creatures, including us, having anatomical vestiges of our evolutionary ancestors.
An 'immaculate creation' event wouldn't leave useless organs/etc.

Heavily Edited incl Numerous illustrations within as well as references deleted for brevity.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 2
Douglas Theobald, Ph.D.
Prediction 2.1: Anatomical vestiges

Some of the most renowned Evidence for evolution are the various nonfunctional or rudimentary vestigial characters, Both Anatomical and Molecular, that are found throughout biology. A vestige is defined, independently of evolutionary theory, as a reduced and rudimentary structure compared to the same complex structure in other organisms. Vestigial characters, if functional, perform relatively simple, minor, or inessential functions using structures that were clearly designed for other complex purposes. Though many vestigial organs have no function, complete non-functionality is not a requirement for vestigiality...​

[.......]​

Geoffroy was at a loss for why exactly nature "always leaves vestiges of an organ", yet he could not deny his empirical observations. Ten years later, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) identified several vestigial structures in his Zoological Philosophy​

[.......]...these "Hypocritical" structures profess something that they do Not do—they clearly appear designed for a certain function which they do Not perform. However, Common Descent provides a scientific explanation for these peculiar structures. Existing species have different structures and perform different functions. If all living organisms descended from a common ancestor, then both functions and structures necessarily have been gained and lost in each lineage during macroevolutionary history. Therefore, from Common Descent and the constraint of gradualism, we predict that many organisms should retain vestigial structures as structural remnants of lost functions. Note that the exact evolutionary mechanism which created a vestigial structure is irrelevant as long as the mechanism is a gradual one.​

​

Confirmation:​

There are Many examples of rudimentary and Nonfunctional vestigial characters carried by organisms, and these can very often be explained in terms of evolutionary histories. For example, from independent phylogenetic evidence, snakes are known to be the descendants of four-legged reptiles. Most Pythons (which are legless snakes) carry Vestigial Pelvises hidden beneath their skin.. The Vestigial pelvis in Pythons is Not attached to vertebrae (as is the normal case in most vertebrates), and it simply floats in the abdominal cavity. Some lizards carry rudimentary, Vestigial Legs underneath their skin, undetectable from the outside...​

Many cave dwelling animals, such as the fish Astyanax mexicanus (the Mexican tetra) and the salamander species Typhlotriton spelaeus and Proteus anguinus, are blind yet have rudimentary, Vestigial eyes....​

[.......]​

The ancestors of Humans are known to have been herbivorous, and molar teeth are required for chewing and grinding plant material. Over 90% of all adult humans develop third molars (otherwise known as Wisdom Teeth).​

Usually these teeth never erupt from the gums, and in one Third of all individuals they are Malformed and Impacted [*]. These Useless teeth can cause significant pain, increased risk for injury, and may result in illness and even death [*]​

​

Another Vestige of our herbivorous ancestry is the vermiform appendix. While this intestinal structure may retain a function of some sort, perhaps in the development of the immune system, it is a rudimentary version of the much larger caecum that is essential for digestion of plants in other mammals..."​

​

Yet another human Vestigial structure is the coccyx, the four fused caudal vertebrae found at the base of the spine, exactly where most mammals and many other primates have external Tails protruding from the back. Humans and other apes are some of the only vertebrates that lack an external tail as an adult. The coccyx is a developmental Remnant of the embryonic tail that forms in humans and then is degraded and eaten by our immune system ... Our internal tail is UNnecessary for sitting, walking, and elimination (all of which are functions attributed to the coccyx by many anti-evolutionists). The caudal vertebrae of the coccyx can cause extreme and unnecessary chronic pain in some unfortunate people, a condition called coccydynia. The entire coccyx can be surgically removed without any ill effects (besides surgical complications)...""​

[.......]​

​

How many Millions of H sapiens and immediate predecessors, suffered and died from Wisdom Teeth impaction/infection?.​

Were it not for Modern dentistry in the last 100 years (yes, even after Jesus), humans who had these impacted/infected Wisdom teeth (most) would have slowly died out and the specie would have been gradually purged/adapted/Evolved eventually as in all traits of all animals.​

Everything that ever lived was, and is, 'intermediate' and constantly Evolving.​

`​

Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

I'm not clear why you thought was appropriate. Evolution addresses biological life not inanimate objects.

English not your first language?

Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

I see. You’re among those who believe that science is one, vast global conspiracy?

 

[LittleNipper]

Another Evidence of Evolution.
Just part of an Overwhelming body of such.
One rarely mentioned but very telling.
Life can be traced to a continuum, with many creatures, including us, having anatomical vestiges of our evolutionary ancestors.
An 'immaculate creation' event wouldn't leave useless organs/etc.

Heavily Edited incl Numerous illustrations within as well as references deleted for brevity.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 2
Douglas Theobald, Ph.D.
Prediction 2.1: Anatomical vestiges

Some of the most renowned Evidence for evolution are the various nonfunctional or rudimentary vestigial characters, Both Anatomical and Molecular, that are found throughout biology. A vestige is defined, independently of evolutionary theory, as a reduced and rudimentary structure compared to the same complex structure in other organisms. Vestigial characters, if functional, perform relatively simple, minor, or inessential functions using structures that were clearly designed for other complex purposes. Though many vestigial organs have no function, complete non-functionality is not a requirement for vestigiality...​

[.......]​

Geoffroy was at a loss for why exactly nature "always leaves vestiges of an organ", yet he could not deny his empirical observations. Ten years later, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) identified several vestigial structures in his Zoological Philosophy​

[.......]...these "Hypocritical" structures profess something that they do Not do—they clearly appear designed for a certain function which they do Not perform. However, Common Descent provides a scientific explanation for these peculiar structures. Existing species have different structures and perform different functions. If all living organisms descended from a common ancestor, then both functions and structures necessarily have been gained and lost in each lineage during macroevolutionary history. Therefore, from Common Descent and the constraint of gradualism, we predict that many organisms should retain vestigial structures as structural remnants of lost functions. Note that the exact evolutionary mechanism which created a vestigial structure is irrelevant as long as the mechanism is a gradual one.​

​

Confirmation:​

There are Many examples of rudimentary and Nonfunctional vestigial characters carried by organisms, and these can very often be explained in terms of evolutionary histories. For example, from independent phylogenetic evidence, snakes are known to be the descendants of four-legged reptiles. Most Pythons (which are legless snakes) carry Vestigial Pelvises hidden beneath their skin.. The Vestigial pelvis in Pythons is Not attached to vertebrae (as is the normal case in most vertebrates), and it simply floats in the abdominal cavity. Some lizards carry rudimentary, Vestigial Legs underneath their skin, undetectable from the outside...​

Many cave dwelling animals, such as the fish Astyanax mexicanus (the Mexican tetra) and the salamander species Typhlotriton spelaeus and Proteus anguinus, are blind yet have rudimentary, Vestigial eyes....​

[.......]​

The ancestors of Humans are known to have been herbivorous, and molar teeth are required for chewing and grinding plant material. Over 90% of all adult humans develop third molars (otherwise known as Wisdom Teeth).​

Usually these teeth never erupt from the gums, and in one Third of all individuals they are Malformed and Impacted [*]. These Useless teeth can cause significant pain, increased risk for injury, and may result in illness and even death [*]​

​

Another Vestige of our herbivorous ancestry is the vermiform appendix. While this intestinal structure may retain a function of some sort, perhaps in the development of the immune system, it is a rudimentary version of the much larger caecum that is essential for digestion of plants in other mammals..."​

​

Yet another human Vestigial structure is the coccyx, the four fused caudal vertebrae found at the base of the spine, exactly where most mammals and many other primates have external Tails protruding from the back. Humans and other apes are some of the only vertebrates that lack an external tail as an adult. The coccyx is a developmental Remnant of the embryonic tail that forms in humans and then is degraded and eaten by our immune system ... Our internal tail is UNnecessary for sitting, walking, and elimination (all of which are functions attributed to the coccyx by many anti-evolutionists). The caudal vertebrae of the coccyx can cause extreme and unnecessary chronic pain in some unfortunate people, a condition called coccydynia. The entire coccyx can be surgically removed without any ill effects (besides surgical complications)...""​

[.......]​

​

How many Millions of H sapiens and immediate predecessors, suffered and died from Wisdom Teeth impaction/infection?.​

Were it not for Modern dentistry in the last 100 years (yes, even after Jesus), humans who had these impacted/infected Wisdom teeth (most) would have slowly died out and the specie would have been gradually purged/adapted/Evolved eventually as in all traits of all animals.​

Everything that ever lived was, and is, 'intermediate' and constantly Evolving.​

`​

Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

I'm not clear why you thought was appropriate. Evolution addresses biological life not inanimate objects.

English not your first language?

Evolution is like asking a wall to describe a fresh coat of paint

I see. You’re among those who believe that science is one, vast global conspiracy?

Science isn't involved in a conspiracy ------ self-centered humans are.

 

[abu afak]

....On the other-hand, because GOD has been demonstrated to exist because LIFE exists without any "natural" causes. GOD has been proven to exist by countless lives that have inexplicably been chanced and renewed/redirected because of some interaction or event that does move into the supernatural. The supernatural cannot exist without an essence that acts outside the realms of nature in ways unimaginable and inexplicable that provides meaning to chains of historic events that follow a progressive or digressive cause and effect ---- all pointing to an ultimate conclusion.

When you have proof, or even a shred of Evidence that god exists, go get your Nobel Prize.
Of course, at least 75% of people believe in different gods than your ARROGANT SELF DOES.
You're a preaching IDIOT with no business in a science section.

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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Science isn't involved in a conspiracy ------ self-centered humans are.

Evolution and a 13-billion year old universe are ideas that are a lot less "human-centric" than a god creating everything just for us so that he can choose which of us live forever. I don't think you thought that one through very well.

 

[abu afak]

Please prove why your religion, namely, naturalism, is true.

It's not my 'religion.'
I deal in hard facts and Evidence when it come to science. The best you can do is lies and Inference/Argument from Ignorance Fallacy. (God of the Gaps)

I don't have a religion.
It's you who've Fabricated a mountain of Faux Filosofy and idiotic strawmen to allow for your religion/god.

Start by proving God doesn't exist.

O look, prove a negative!
Please prove I'm not god.


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[ding]

I deal in hard facts and Evidence when it come to science.

You mean like we are in an ice age and you want the planet to be colder? Hard facts like that?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I deal in hard facts and Evidence when it come to science.

You mean like we are in an ice age and you want the planet to be colder? Hard facts like that?

*slaps ding

Stop that

 

[ding]

I deal in hard facts and Evidence when it come to science.

You mean like we are in an ice age and you want the planet to be colder? Hard facts like that?

*slaps ding

Stop that

Should I have said hard facts like computer models and calling theories facts?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I deal in hard facts and Evidence when it come to science.

You mean like we are in an ice age and you want the planet to be colder? Hard facts like that?

*slaps ding

Stop that

Should I have said hard facts like computer models and calling theories facts?

No, you should have stayed on topic and not created patented Ding situation #4,765,903 where someone is expected to explain away your misrepresentations of things they have said.