More lack of freedom of speech from Trump - kicking visa holders out who say things he doesn't like

[TemplarKormac]

US revokes six foreigners’ visas over social media comments criticizing Charlie Kirk

State department says it has ‘no obligation’ to host foreign nationals who ‘celebrate heinous’ death of far-right activist

uk.yahoo.com

"US revokes six foreigners’ visas over social media comments criticizing Charlie Kirk"

Trump dressed it up as people "celebrating" Kirk's death. Nothing of the sort

"“The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans,” the state department said in a statement posted on X. “The State Department continues to identify visa holders who celebrated the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk.”"

Here's the first example they gave:

"“Charlie Kirk won’t be remembered as a hero,” one of the comments posted on X read. “He was used to astroturf a movement of white nationalist trailer trash!”"

Did this person "celebrate" his death? Nope. He just said he won't be remembered as a hero.

This is very dangerous. Either people have freedom of speech, or it becomes a privilege, and in the US, it's becoming a privilege.

What next? Locking up Americans for it?

You obviously never lived in the UK. If that's the worst he does, so be it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That wasn't the point I was making.

The point is that Vance went to Europe and criticized Europe for lack of freedom of speech. If you're so big on free speech, why are they now trying go against that?

If you want to search people's assholes, their Republican Grnder accounts, whatever, fine, as long as you're not going around the world telling everyone how much freedom of speech is really ******* important.

It's hypocrisy.

The point is that Vance went to Europe and criticized Europe for lack of freedom of speech. If you're so big on free speech, why are they now trying go against that?

Vance isn't going against free speech.
If visa holders have evidence on their phones that they support terrorists, they can **** off back to their shithole of origin.

That's nothing like Europe throwing their own citizens in jail for posting hurty words on social media.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They aren’t. You think what you perceive as hypocrisy is, it isn’t.

It is important, the main difference is we don’t throw 57 people in jail every day for Facebook tweets they do in the UK however, people like you were more than OK with the mass censorship that occurred on social media during the Covid era, or censorship on YouTube of political dissonance and their debanking. You also cheered when you threw a man in jail Douglas Mackie for making dank memes so again zip it. Your side is actively hostile to freedom of speech. You’re just mad that we’re kicking out potential future voters from the country so they could never cast a ballot in your favor. .

Yes, they are.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/vance-uses-munich-speech-criticize-europe-censoring-free-speech-2025-02-14/

"U.S. Vice President JD Vance on Friday took a swipe at European governments for what he described as their censorship of free speech and their political opponents, while largely avoiding the question of how to resolve the Ukraine war."

""The threat I worry the most about vis-à-vis Europe is not Russia, it's not China, it's not any other external actor. What I worry about is the threat from within, the retreat of Europe from some its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America," Vance said."

"Instead, he said Brussels had shut down social media over hateful content, "

Yes, he complained about social media lack of freedom of speech, and now they're doing that very thing. Yes, they can do it, yes, they're hypocrites

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Yes, they are.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/vance-uses-munich-speech-criticize-europe-censoring-free-speech-2025-02-14/

"U.S. Vice President JD Vance on Friday took a swipe at European governments for what he described as their censorship of free speech and their political opponents, while largely avoiding the question of how to resolve the Ukraine war."

""The threat I worry the most about vis-à-vis Europe is not Russia, it's not China, it's not any other external actor. What I worry about is the threat from within, the retreat of Europe from some its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America," Vance said."

"Instead, he said Brussels had shut down social media over hateful content, "

Yes, he complained about social media lack of freedom of speech, and now they're doing that very thing. Yes, they can do it, yes, they're hypocrites

Only it isn’t, because no one has a right o immigrate to America, and those who do have to meet our requirements to enter, screening out political enemies and people who hate us is entirely a rational decision.

Say what ever you want, but your not going to be allowed in if you hate us isn’t violating freedom of speech, and the fact that you think this only proves how dishonest or dumb your side really is.

 

[Nostra]

Having the RIGHT to free speech means all people in the US legally have these rights.

It doesn't seem like that right now.

You don't have to let people in, but once you've given them a visa, you should only kick them out for COMMITTING A CRIME. They didn't commit a crime.

They still have freedom of speech.

They are here strictly on our invitation, and we can tell them to leave any time, for any reason.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

They still have freedom of speech.

They are here strictly on our invitation, and we can tell them to leave any time, for any reason.

“ no freedom of speech means they can do anything they want and get away with it because I want to import them so they can vote you stop. This is mean you’re mean.!”- Leftists

 

[Clipper]

Good point. No. The people you are referring to are not Americans and I don't have to open my country to people who don't like America or our way of government. If they don't like it here, they can spend their tourist dollars in some shithole the do like.

Tell it to Trump who trash talks this country on a daily basis.

Maybe you can help him out with that hair caught across his ass which makes his life miserable every minute of every day.

What a life.

 

[Concerned American]

Tell it to Trump who trash talks this country on a daily basis.

Maybe you can help him out with that hair caught across his ass which makes his life miserable every minute of every day.

What a life.

Trump isn't here on a visa, LOL and he's going to be YOUR POTUS for another 1100+ days, Enjoy. BTW, please stay on topic, your non sequiturs are not on topic.

 

[Nostra]

That wasn't the point I was making.

The point is that Vance went to Europe and criticized Europe for lack of freedom of speech. If you're so big on free speech, why are they now trying go against that?

If you want to search people's assholes, their Republican Grnder accounts, whatever, fine, as long as you're not going around the world telling everyone how much freedom of speech is really ******* important.

It's hypocrisy.

Did you know the UK arrested one if its citizens upon returning home for simply holding a gun while in the US?

 

[frigidweirdo]

You obviously never lived in the UK. If that's the worst he does, so be it.

When a conversation turns from the issues, to something that has nothing to do with the topic.... sigh.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Only it isn’t, because no one has a right o immigrate to America, and those who do have to meet our requirements to enter, screening out political enemies and people who hate us is entirely a rational decision.

Say what ever you want, but your not going to be allowed in if you hate us isn’t violating freedom of speech, and the fact that you think this only proves how dishonest or dumb your side really is.

It doesn't matter whether they have the right to go to the US or not. That's NOT WHAT WE'RE ******* TALKING ABOUT.

Why is it every ******* conversation with you people ends up with you lot talking about something DIFFERENT? ANNOYING.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

It doesn't matter whether they have the right to go to the US or not. That's NOT WHAT WE'RE ******* TALKING ABOUT.

Why is it every ******* conversation with you people ends up with you lot talking about something DIFFERENT? ANNOYING.

No it’s clearly you are not able to understand the issue.

 

[frigidweirdo]

No it’s clearly you are not able to understand the issue.

Bye

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Bye

Yes, leave and don’t come back. You are not wanted or needed.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, leave and don’t come back. You are not wanted or needed.

Fine, **** off onto the ignore list, asshole.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Fine, **** off onto the ignore list, asshole.

Stay mad, stay oblivious to the world, it’s what you do best.

 

[Rawley]

Yes, they are.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/vance-uses-munich-speech-criticize-europe-censoring-free-speech-2025-02-14/

"U.S. Vice President JD Vance on Friday took a swipe at European governments for what he described as their censorship of free speech and their political opponents, while largely avoiding the question of how to resolve the Ukraine war."

""The threat I worry the most about vis-à-vis Europe is not Russia, it's not China, it's not any other external actor. What I worry about is the threat from within, the retreat of Europe from some its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America," Vance said."

"Instead, he said Brussels had shut down social media over hateful content, "

Yes, he complained about social media lack of freedom of speech, and now they're doing that very thing. Yes, they can do it, yes, they're hypocrites

Putting your own citizens in prison is light years away from revoking a privilege afforded a foreigner.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Putting your own citizens in prison is light years away from revoking a privilege afforded a foreigner.

He can’t differentiate differences.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Putting your own citizens in prison is light years away from revoking a privilege afforded a foreigner.

Yeah, it is. But that's not my point.

My point is they went to Europe shouting that Europe lacks freedom of speech, now they want to take freedom of speech away from Europeans.

Doesn't that sound ******* stupid?

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Yeah, it is. But that's not my point.

My point is they went to Europe shouting that Europe lacks freedom of speech, now they want to take freedom of speech away from Europeans.

Doesn't that sound ******* stupid?

Because it does lack freedom of speech. We aren’t taking away anyone’s freedom of speech. We just gonna deny entry to people who don’t agree with us.