More lack of freedom of speech from Trump - kicking visa holders out who say things he doesn't like

[Missouri_Mike]

US revokes six foreigners’ visas over social media comments criticizing Charlie Kirk

State department says it has ‘no obligation’ to host foreign nationals who ‘celebrate heinous’ death of far-right activist

uk.yahoo.com

"US revokes six foreigners’ visas over social media comments criticizing Charlie Kirk"

Trump dressed it up as people "celebrating" Kirk's death. Nothing of the sort

"“The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans,” the state department said in a statement posted on X. “The State Department continues to identify visa holders who celebrated the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk.”"

Here's the first example they gave:

"“Charlie Kirk won’t be remembered as a hero,” one of the comments posted on X read. “He was used to astroturf a movement of white nationalist trailer trash!”"

Did this person "celebrate" his death? Nope. He just said he won't be remembered as a hero.

This is very dangerous. Either people have freedom of speech, or it becomes a privilege, and in the US, it's becoming a privilege.

What next? Locking up Americans for it?

US citizens have freedom of speech. Visitors don’t.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Wasn’t it leftists who kept telling us that “speech has consequences” when people were fired for supporting Trump?

Yet these same leftists are so anti-American that they defend foreigners who celebrate when Americans get murdered.

Yet, none of this affects you personally in any significant way. Why is your opinion important?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It ain’t right, but in a way the left-wing is responsible for this. For their BLM riots that killed upwards of 40 people. Going around screaming white supremacist at everyone. Not just people on the Internet but people on MSNBC and CNN calling Trump supporters white supremacist, Nazis, and racist for no good reason at all. And not to mention woke

People losing their jobs for criticizing BLM. People going on Facebook and criticizing the coronavirus lockdowns and some lefties get them fired …..no one has forgot

Let it all be a lesson stop embracing BLM/DEI and all forms of radical leftism. Just go back to traditional Democrats like John F. Kennedy.

Trump is a fascist thug, using fear and intimidation to silence free speech and dissent is classic fascism.

 

[Nostra]

Trump is a fascist thug, using fear and intimidation to silence free speech and dissent is classic fascism.

Sure thing, Buttercup.

 

[Orangecat]

More lack of freedom of speech from Trump​

No one was prevented from speaking. Nor will they be prevented from speaking in the future.

 

[drudge X]

Strange that leftists aren't defending Candace Owens. Why is that?

Three High Court judges unanimously rejected Owens’ challenge to Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke’s decision in 2024 to refuse her a visa on character grounds.

Australia's highest court rejects Candace Owens' visa challenge

Australia’s highest court has rejected U.S. conservative commentator Candace Owens’ attempt to overturn a decision barring her from visiting the country.

apnews.com

 

[frigidweirdo]

Strange that leftists aren't defending Candace Owens. Why is that?

Three High Court judges unanimously rejected Owens’ challenge to Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke’s decision in 2024 to refuse her a visa on character grounds.

Australia's highest court rejects Candace Owens' visa challenge

Australia’s highest court has rejected U.S. conservative commentator Candace Owens’ attempt to overturn a decision barring her from visiting the country.

apnews.com

This isn't about getting a visa. It's about getting a visa, entering the country and then getting kicked out for not breaking the law.

There's a HUGE difference.

 

[Mac1958]

Yet, none of this affects you personally in any significant way. Why is your opinion important?

This isn't about getting a visa. It's about getting a visa, entering the country and then getting kicked out for not breaking the law.

I saw a comment from a guy who is trying to see some potential good happening here:

"So now that the President has ordered an entire legal branch of the US government to prosecute his enemies, whether or not there are any grounds, at least we are reminded of what democracy is supposed to be.

"This is not much consolation, but it is better, after all, to be slapped awake rather than left asleep when the house is on fire".

 

[frigidweirdo]

I saw a comment from a guy who is trying to see some potential good happening here:

"So now that the President has ordered an entire legal branch of the US government to prosecute his enemies, whether or not there are any grounds, at least we are reminded of what democracy is supposed to be.

"This is not much consolation, but it is better, after all, to be slapped awake rather than left asleep when the house is on fire".

But how many people, on either side, have even noticed they're getting slapped?

The left will just try and dig in and get power back so they can do the same thing to the right, and the right has the power and doesn't care if there's democracy, because they get way more power without it

 

[Mac1958]

But how many people, on either side, have even noticed they're getting slapped?

The left will just try and dig in and get power back so they can do the same thing to the right, and the right has the power and doesn't care if there's democracy, because they get way more power without it

Seems like now there is the Left, MAGA, the horrified, and the sleepwalkers.

It may take a big event, a huge news story. What the Founders warned about is pretty much right in front of us.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Seems like now there is the Left, MAGA, the horrified, and the sleepwalkers.

It may take a big event, a huge news story. What the Founders warned about is pretty much right in front of us.

Probably would require something civil war like to get most people to wake up.

 

[Mac1958]

Probably would require something civil war like to get most people to wake up.

No Kings feels like a potential turning point. If it gets violent, if the protestors blow it, shit could hit the fan. They need to be careful and not give the regime any excuses.

 

[SweetSue92]

Seems like now there is the Left, MAGA, the horrified, and the sleepwalkers.

It may take a big event, a huge news story. What the Founders warned about is pretty much right in front of us.

Mac: I'm not ideological

Also Mac: every single post on his postings page is anti-Trump

 

[wamose]

Do you understand rights?

Do you understand what the Supreme Court has said on the matter?

If you work in the US legally, you're part of "the people".

So if you're an illegal alien, working as a drug dealer, gang banger or pimp, you're home free? They don't call you frigid weirdo for nothing.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

To keep things in perspective, Frigidweirdo once claimed that Islamic rape gangs that target British children are just "tapping" those kids (as in tapping some ass) and that the children were being gang raped voluntarily.

 

[citygator]

LOL Gator does projection

 

[struth]

This isn't about getting a visa. It's about getting a visa, entering the country and then getting kicked out for not breaking the law.

There's a HUGE difference.

You might want to review the law on visas

 

[davebb]

The sky is falling! The sky is failing!

Get a grip.

Well, that's ironic, coming from the forum's biggest chicken little.

 

[struth]

Freedom of speech has limits even if you're in your own country.

HOWEVER for there to be freedom of speech, not committing a crime should not end up with being tossed out of the country. Because, they'll get comfortable doing it. And you'll be next.

The law says the govt can.

And we should be in the habit of revoking visas for people who threaten Americans lives

 

[drudge X]

This isn't about getting a visa. It's about getting a visa, entering the country and then getting kicked out for not breaking the law.

There's a HUGE difference.

It's about someone saying something that some people don't like. That's the bottom line.