Oh look, more anti-free speech from Vance.

the right's efforts to turn Charlie Kirk into their own version of Matthew Shepard is growing old quick. People will have Charlie Kirk fatigue in short order.
Just the opposite. We saw a good man murdered because he dared reveal an different view than the sole leftist ones stidents are being indoctrinated into, and as a result he was demonized as a fascist and a sick 22-year-old killed him.

His movement to expose students to more than one position - the socialist/Marxist one - will explode 10-fold.
 
Im not suggesting it should be law. Im talking about the lefts "speech has consequences" part
Exactly. When Trump voters were fired, or not hired, or not promoted for being Trump voters, the leftists raced in with “having free speech doesn’t mean being free from consequences.”

So they were OK with conservatives being fired for voting for Trump, but NOT OK with leftists being fired for celebrating the horrific murder of an innocent man for expressing HIS free speech?
 

"Report those who celebrate Charlie Kirk death to employers, Vance says"

Yep, Vance wants to stop people saying negative things about Charlie Kirk.

""Call them out, and hell, call their employer," Vance said as he guest-hosted an episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. "We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.""

Apparently they believe in "civility" which is news to me.

This from a guy who called out the UK on freedom of speech.

JD Vance calls out UK’s ‘modern dystopia’ amid ‘sad decline’ in freedom of speech

Essentially the right want to control speech if they don't like it, and make it free if they do. Kind of fascist to me.
We have a guy at work who says almost daily that he thinks Trump should be killed and it's good that someone killed Charlie Kirk. That kind of trolling hate talk doesnt belong in the workplace. Doesn't matter who youre talking about. And employers have the right to insist on professional behavior and presentation on their private property and to dismiss those who won't comply. We have a right not to be trolled by other people's hatred where we work. People who create a toxic or dangerous environment for others need to go. I have some strong and controversial opinions of my own but I don't share them at work in a room full of people when I'm being paid to do a job.
 
We never used government threats to suppress speech.

That’s all you guys.
There were threats and press put on social media during Joe Biden’s presidency, so much so that a federal judge prohibited certain Biden administration officials to not contact social media.
 
We have a guy at work who says almost daily that he thinks Trump should be killed and it's good that someone killed Charlie Kirk. That kind of trolling hate talk doesnt belong in the workplace. Doesn't matter who youre talking about. And employers have the right to insist on professional behavior and presentation on their private property and to dismiss those who won't comply. We have a right not to be trolled by other people's hatred where we work. People who create a toxic or dangerous environment for others need to go. I have some strong and controversial opinions of my own but I don't share them at work in a room full of people when I'm being paid to do a job.
Sounds like you need to pay a visit to your Human Resources department and apprise them of this situation, before this nutcase goes beyond just verbalizing his delusions.

Any competent HR department isn't going to stand for the behavior you're describing in the workplace.
 

"Report those who celebrate Charlie Kirk death to employers, Vance says"

Yep, Vance wants to stop people saying negative things about Charlie Kirk.

""Call them out, and hell, call their employer," Vance said as he guest-hosted an episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. "We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.""

Apparently they believe in "civility" which is news to me.

This from a guy who called out the UK on freedom of speech.

JD Vance calls out UK’s ‘modern dystopia’ amid ‘sad decline’ in freedom of speech

Essentially the right want to control speech if they don't like it, and make it free if they do. Kind of fascist to me.
How is he stopping free speech, Simp?

Those cretins are free to spew their hatred all they want. Their employers are free to cut ties with them so they aren't associated with lunacy.
 
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Sounds like you need to pay a visit to your Human Resources department and apprise them of this situation, before this nutcase goes beyond just verbalizing his delusions.

Any competent HR department isn't going to stand for the behavior you're describing in the workplace.
He's old and has health problems. He's also an excellent worker, helpful, and very kind to most of us. At 72, if he was truly violent I think he'd have a record and they wouldn't even have hired him after his background check. He's only been with us for about 6 months. I know it sounds strange considering his occasional rants that I mentioned, but he's also a real asset to us. He's a very expressive Italian. As I said, I have some strong controversial opinions too, but being a stoic and disciplined German I keep my mouth shut when I know I should. 😏

There are a few people who may report him if he keeps it up. I'll leave it up to them.
 

"Report those who celebrate Charlie Kirk death to employers, Vance says"

Yep, Vance wants to stop people saying negative things about Charlie Kirk.

""Call them out, and hell, call their employer," Vance said as he guest-hosted an episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. "We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.""

Apparently they believe in "civility" which is news to me.

This from a guy who called out the UK on freedom of speech.

JD Vance calls out UK’s ‘modern dystopia’ amid ‘sad decline’ in freedom of speech

Essentially the right want to control speech if they don't like it, and make it free if they do. Kind of fascist to me.

No, you still have free speech but there can be consequences if you are blasting defamatory, slanderous, or libelous stuff.
 
He's old and has health problems. He's also an excellent worker, helpful, and very kind to most of us. At 72, if he was truly violent I think he'd have a record and they wouldn't even have hired him after his background check. He's only been with us for about 6 months. I know it sounds strange considering his occasional rants that I mentioned, but he's also a real asset to us. He's a very expressive Italian. As I said, I have some strong controversial opinions too, but being a stoic and disciplined German I keep my mouth shut when I know I should. 😏

There are a few people who may report him if he keeps it up. I'll leave it up to them.
You're a far better judge than I given that you have firsthand knowledge of the situation and I don't. However, IMHO anyone that expresses "almost daily" their desire to see any POTUS assassinated and celebrates the assassination of other public figures needs to be given a hard look if for no other reason than the complete lack of self-control, decorum and common sense the person displays by saying such things in a workplace environment. 🤷‍♂️
 
You're a far better judge than I given that you have firsthand knowledge of the situation and I don't. However, IMHO anyone that expresses "almost daily" their desire to see any POTUS assassinated and celebrates the assassination of other public figures needs to be given a hard look if for no other reason than the complete lack of self-control, decorum and common sense the person displays by saying such things in a workplace environment. 🤷‍♂️
When he recently called Charlie Kirk "a neo-Nazi piece of shit who deserved to die" I definitely gave him a hard look. He knows some of us there support Trump but has never done anything bad to any of us nor does he troll us. He's not a blind liberal either. He called Biden "the stupidest president we ever had". 😄
 
MAGA has taken ownership of Cancel Culture away from the Left.

This is incredible. This country has lost its ******* mind.
you admit that the party you consistently support and defend "democrat party" did censor and cancel people eh ? a little late aren't you lefty ?
 
You hilarious cry baby, celebration is free speech.

I suppose that's why the government wants to abridge the speech freedom of the press and the people without going through Congress.
It sure is, and the consequences of it are as well.

No, we don’t want the government involved like you do with your hate speech regulations. We prefer to just let your community know all about you. That’s enough for us.
 
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you admit that the party you consistently support and defend "democrat party" did censor and cancel people eh ? a little late aren't you lefty ?
Ignorant rube.

From March, 2020:
They've made great strides over the last couple of generations.

As a result, we have "cancel culture", a decay in race relations, safe spaces, trigger warnings, and people from coast to coast are afraid to express what they're thinking.

Until they get in the ballot box.
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From April, 2020:
What I see from the Left is what I've seen for a long time: The Regressive, illiberal, authoritarian Left weaponizing Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture to cynically put their targets on the defensive to control the conversation.

So this "conveniently ignore" line of yours is completely wrong.

The difference here is that I can see both sides of this, and you either can't, or you refuse to. I can't make you open both of your eyes.

So find a nice Regressive Lefty to try this stuff with. I'm done with asymmetrical conversations. They bore me.
 

"Report those who celebrate Charlie Kirk death to employers, Vance says"

Yep, Vance wants to stop people saying negative things about Charlie Kirk.

""Call them out, and hell, call their employer," Vance said as he guest-hosted an episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. "We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.""

Apparently they believe in "civility" which is news to me.

This from a guy who called out the UK on freedom of speech.

JD Vance calls out UK’s ‘modern dystopia’ amid ‘sad decline’ in freedom of speech

Essentially the right want to control speech if they don't like it, and make it free if they do. Kind of fascist to me.
How’s that anti free speech? I in fact welcome you fascist to express yourselves…we just have a right to express ourselves and report it
 
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